--- Log opened Thu Dec 24 00:00:45 2015 00:16 -!- FAMAS [~FAMAS@unaffiliated/famas] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:17 -!- FAMAS [~FAMAS@103.198.139.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:17 -!- FAMAS [~FAMAS@103.198.139.33] has quit [Changing host] 00:17 -!- FAMAS [~FAMAS@unaffiliated/famas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:10 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ixedrddgzanfoeik] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 01:39 -!- FAMAS [~FAMAS@unaffiliated/famas] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:06 -!- Act [uid89656@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cumknmzlhibpascp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:17 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:21 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:f9af:e4d9:7d3:d8ae] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:28 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gwpzrbhxgyqluqiy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:38 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:49 < maaku> justanotheruser: isn't that what peer review is about? 02:50 < justanotheruser> maaku: it has been demonstrated peer review sucks for left-wing sciences http://quillette.com/2015/12/04/rebellious-scientist-surprising-truth-about-stereotypes/ 02:51 < justanotheruser> The effect is probably everywhere, but to a lesser extent than it is with social sciences 02:51 < justanotheruser> s/left-wing sciences/sciences with many left-wing publishers/ 02:51 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:52 < maaku> online journals should probably publish rejected articles with authors redacted then 02:55 < justanotheruser> http://www.sciencemag.org/content/342/6154/60.full 02:56 < justanotheruser> Of the 106 journals that discernibly performed any review, 70% ultimately accepted the paper. Most reviews focused exclusively on the paper's layout, formatting, and language. This sting did not waste the time of many legitimate peer reviewers. Only 36 of the 304 submissions generated review comments recognizing any of the paper's scientific problems. And 16 of those papers were accepted by 02:56 < justanotheruser> the editors despite the damning ... 02:56 < justanotheruser> ... reviews. 02:56 < justanotheruser> tl;dr the journals don't care about peer review 02:57 < justanotheruser> at least 80% 03:41 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: austerity chic brand destruction] 03:42 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:46 -!- andares [~andares@unaffiliated/jacco] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:46 -!- andares is now known as esmerelda 04:07 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xwwezwoibokbmipq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 05:09 -!- samO [~samO@unaffiliated/samo] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:22 < kanzure> hrm. 06:31 < JayDugger> hum. 06:38 -!- samO_ [~samO@unaffiliated/samo] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:41 -!- samO [~samO@unaffiliated/samo] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:03 -!- triggerwarning [~IGLC@unaffiliated/triggerwarning] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:12 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:15 -!- triggerwarning [~IGLC@2601:681:500:165a:a5d8:13aa:40bc:ad3f] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:29 -!- Filosofem is now known as Jawmare 07:48 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-epwgpyxpavurhcne] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:36 < kanzure> "first 130 year birthday for a person will be moon landing of this century" ehhhhhh 08:37 < kanzure> (so says victor björk) 09:06 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:09 -!- |node [uid125132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bmqiaeskvhhwcvls] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:18 < pasky> meanwhile, you can tune in our acomys cahirinus colony at vlc http://mice.or.cz/ 09:38 < archels> kanzure: haha, cute 09:49 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-epwgpyxpavurhcne] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 10:05 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@37.218.147.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:22 < docl> http://amasci.com/amateur/sciam1.html (bunch of archive links for an awesome column in sciam called the amateur scientist) 10:33 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:39 < kanzure> http://uvicrec.blogspot.com/2015/12/lab-explosions-and-accidents.html 10:39 < maaku> kanzure: i don't think any random person will notice when someone turns 130 10:39 < maaku> "come back to me when the median age is 130" 10:40 < maaku> kanzure: I'm pretty sure the Moon landing of this century will be landing on Mars ;) 10:40 < kanzure> i agree that it doesn't seem particularly moonlike 11:04 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:05 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-155-69.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:11 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:21 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:22 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:25 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has quit [Client Quit] 11:35 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:39 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:42 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:43 -!- c0rw|zZz_ [~c0rw1n@215.155-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:44 -!- c0rw|zZz [~c0rw1n@243.64-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:45 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:49 < streety> It took a little over 8 years from announcement to actually landing on the Moon. The first 130 year old is still 13 years away. No need to start getting excited just yet. 11:52 < streety> 13 years is a best case scenario 11:52 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:55 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:03 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:05 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:12 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:15 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:22 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:25 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:32 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:35 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:54 -!- enkiv21 is now known as enkiv2 13:08 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined 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not care about this 130y thing 15:46 < bjonnh> I would be the first one 15:50 < bjonnh> kanzure: I would like to see some statistics on amateur labs accidents (not including drug and explosives labs) 15:55 < AdrianG> given enough time we'll have a 130 y purely by chance. 15:55 < AdrianG> bjonnh: just visit a first year biochem labs. 15:56 < AdrianG> you'll see plenty of accidents. people boling alcohols right on the hot plate, dumping water into anhydrous acids, etc 15:59 < bjonnh> I know I've been through that in teached for that ;) 15:59 < bjonnh> s/in/and 16:00 < bjonnh> chemistry by pharmacy students was the best in term of "accidents" 16:00 < bjonnh> AdrianG: actually maybe this 130y already happened and nobody did noticed it 16:00 < bjonnh> s/noticed/notice 16:26 < AdrianG> possible. 16:26 < AdrianG> but its not a milestone of any sort. 16:29 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@83.20.125.32] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:33 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has 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[~jaboja@esf32.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:00 < Alcyius> benzoyl peroxide wash does wonders for my back acne 20:11 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-56-27-223.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:21 -!- AmbulatoryC0rtex [~Ambulator@173-31-155-69.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:25 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-155-69.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:31 < justanotherelf> ok 20:44 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@esf32.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:58 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@195.114.252.95] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:05 -!- andares [~andares@2607:fb90:808b:1e7c:fdd4:c252:e900:eaa3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:05 -!- andares [~andares@2607:fb90:808b:1e7c:fdd4:c252:e900:eaa3] has quit [Changing host] 21:05 -!- andares [~andares@unaffiliated/jacco] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:15 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@esf32.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40 -!- frege [63e70e09@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.231.14.9] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:42 -!- _andares [~andares@2607:fb90:80e7:368f:973a:b0b3:74ae:2087] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:42 -!- _andares [~andares@2607:fb90:80e7:368f:973a:b0b3:74ae:2087] has quit [Changing host] 21:42 -!- _andares [~andares@unaffiliated/jacco] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:43 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:45 -!- andares [~andares@unaffiliated/jacco] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:54 < maaku> bjonnh AdrianG: it is in fact a significant milestone. there's this weird wall where supercentenarians die at around ~120yr 21:54 -!- frege [63e70e09@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.231.14.9] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:55 < maaku> these people seem healthy and more or less not ageing once they hit the centenarian platou, then suddenly die 21:57 -!- samO__ [~samO@unaffiliated/samo] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:58 < maaku> right now SENS research is focused on getting us to live to be supercentenarians .. but very quickly the next barrier to achieving longevity escape velocity will be the 120yr wall 21:59 < Alcyius> I hope I live to at least 103 21:59 < Alcyius> Then I'll have lived in 3 different centuries 21:59 < Alcyius> I mean, I hope I'll live longer than that 21:59 < Alcyius> But barring that, 103 seems pretty good 22:00 -!- samO_ [~samO@unaffiliated/samo] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:01 -!- samO [~samO@unaffiliated/samo] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:03 -!- samO__ [~samO@unaffiliated/samo] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:07 < maaku> damn you're a youngin' 22:07 < maaku> why you gotta go make us old farts feel old? 22:09 < maaku> I hope to live at least 100 billion years 22:09 < maaku> If I get more than that, I'll be thankful 22:10 -!- justanotherelf is now known as apache 22:11 -!- apache is now known as justanotherelf 22:13 < Alcyius> maaku, I feed on your tears 22:19 -!- AmbulatoryC0rtex 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These are the results after 25 hours of training (link to github in video description). : MachineLearning 23:47 -!- Act [uid89656@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cumknmzlhibpascp] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] --- Log closed Fri Dec 25 00:00:46 2015