--- Log opened Thu Jan 07 00:00:58 2016 00:21 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@108.19.186.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:23 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@esf125.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:24 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:33 -!- pompolic [~A@unaffiliated/pompolic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:01 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:07 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bchrqwyaazdutvhq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 01:07 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:22 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@esf125.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:26 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@esf125.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:34 -!- jtimon [~quassel@103.red-80-26-235.adsl.dynamic.ccgg.telefonica.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:43 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@108.19.186.58] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:14 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:27 < archels> kanzure: cheers 02:56 -!- berndj [~berndj@azna.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:58 -!- berndj [~berndj@azna.co.za] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:58 -!- berndj [~berndj@azna.co.za] has quit [Excess Flood] 03:00 -!- berndj [~berndj@azna.co.za] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:00 -!- berndj [~berndj@azna.co.za] has quit [Excess Flood] 03:00 -!- berndj [~berndj@azna.co.za] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:04 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:10 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-huahnwrbjejnweuv] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 03:10 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:12 -!- esmerelda [~andares@unaffiliated/jacco] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:21 -!- berndj [~berndj@azna.co.za] has quit [Excess Flood] 03:21 -!- berndj [~berndj@azna.co.za] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:23 -!- berndj [~berndj@azna.co.za] has quit [Excess Flood] 03:23 -!- berndj [~berndj@azna.co.za] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:25 -!- berndj [~berndj@azna.co.za] has quit [Excess Flood] 03:25 -!- berndj [~berndj@azna.co.za] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:30 -!- berndj [~berndj@azna.co.za] has quit [Excess Flood] 03:30 -!- berndj [~berndj@azna.co.za] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:01 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:04 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:26 -!- atomical [~atomical@wl2142.cin.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:38 -!- c0rw|zZz is now known as c0rw1n 04:41 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@91.176.76.47] has quit [] 04:42 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@91.176.76.47] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:49 < kanzure> hmph 05:05 -!- pink_vampire [~kvirc@67.210.40.189] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:06 < pink_vampire> hi 05:12 < kanzure> yes? 05:18 < pink_vampire> first time here.. 05:18 < pink_vampire> sounds like a very cool place. 05:19 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:29 -!- poppingtonic1 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:30 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:30 -!- poppingtonic1 is now known as poppingtonic 05:31 < pink_vampire> kanzure: ? 05:31 < kanzure> what? 05:32 < fenn> hi pink_vampire 05:33 < pink_vampire> hi fenn 05:34 < fenn> i'm sort of curious how you ended up here 05:34 < pink_vampire> I like biology 05:35 < pink_vampire> and I'm also in to meta working.. 05:35 < pink_vampire> fenn: ^ 05:36 < pink_vampire> and I think I remember you from linuxcnc 05:36 < pink_vampire> metal* 05:37 < kanzure> you're not wrong 05:37 < pink_vampire> and you also... 05:37 < pink_vampire> mmm 05:40 < fenn> i am currently trying to find information on the chemistry of sharp cheddar cheese, but this is harder to find than i expected 05:40 < fenn> my understanding was that aged/sharp cheeses had high levels of free amino acids, so they improved flavor the same way MSG does (because they include "natural" MSG) 05:41 < pink_vampire> I'm not in to cheese at alll 05:41 < pink_vampire> lactose intolerance.. 05:42 < fenn> i have this weird numbness/tingling/hypersensitivity thing going on in my hand that i haven't experienced in almost a year, and i've also just eaten sharp cheddar cheese for the first in about the same amount of time, so i'm trying to figure out what's the connection 05:44 < pink_vampire> fenn: do you want to make cheddar cheese? 05:44 < fenn> no 05:44 < fenn> i'm trying to figure out why my hand feels strange 05:45 < pink_vampire> I'm lost 05:45 < fenn> jrayhawk any ideas? 05:46 < kanzure> pink_vampire: i think you have mistaken fenn's messages for statements directed towards you in particular (they aren't) 05:46 < pink_vampire> o-k.. 05:47 < fenn> my problem with the "quinolinic acid endogenous neurotoxin" theory of mental illness is: why doesn't everybody benefit from NMDA antagonists? 05:53 < kanzure> http://blog.agi.io/2015/12/how-to-build-general-intelligence.html 05:55 < fenn> "how to build a general intelligence: lots of boxes and arrows" 05:55 < pink_vampire> lol 05:56 < kanzure> fenn: that's not fair. most agi people have ignored large chunks of neuroanatomy for a very long time. 05:57 < fenn> i don't know what "project AGI"/agi.io is 05:58 < kanzure> looks like some random blog 05:59 < pink_vampire> I need AFM. 05:59 < fenn> all the posts are by "dave rawlinson" 05:59 < c0rw1n> fenn: can you rct it? neeeds placebo cheese that tastes just like the cheddar 06:00 < fenn> c0rw1n: no, but it's an obvious enough effect that i'm not worried about placebo 06:00 < c0rw1n> 'k 06:00 < kanzure> an earlier post mentions a recent (2015) jeff hawkins paper, "Why neurons have thousands of synapses: A theory of sequence memory in neocortex" http://arxiv.org/abs/1511.00083 06:00 < pink_vampire> http://www.instructables.com/id/A-Low-Cost-Atomic-Force-Microscope-%E4%BD%8E%E6%88%90%E6%9C%AC%E5%8E%9F%E5%AD%90%E5%8A%9B%E9%A1%AF%E5%BE%AE%E9%8F%A1/ 06:01 < kanzure> pink_vampire: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/AFM/ 06:02 < c0rw1n> there are fully interconnected nets... someone should make nets with connections graphs similar to the natural ones also; maybe there are, but in the little subset of papers i stumble across i haven't seen such yet 06:03 < fenn> agi.io has a nice set of topics/tags/labels 06:05 < kanzure> http://blog.agi.io/2014/05/thalamocortical-architecture.html 06:05 < kanzure> https://github.com/affogato/cortico-thalamic-circuit 06:05 < kanzure> has svg diagram 06:05 < c0rw1n> Yay 06:05 < archels> that only needs about 9000 more boxes and arrows to approximate actual physiology 06:05 < fenn> i mean these are topics i think are promising areas of research: cortical learning algorithm, general long short-term memory, hierarchical temporal model, memory prediction framework, recurrent neural networks, retina, thalamocortical, visual object recognition 06:06 < fenn> 9 billion 06:06 < fenn> 19 billion* 06:07 < fenn> "how many squares are on a chess board" 06:07 < kanzure> that's a very nihilist approach 06:07 < archels> a finite number 06:07 < kanzure> plus, you already know that human brain matter seems to do interesting things even when forced into very small volumes or weird shapes (hydrocephaly) 06:07 < fenn> the answer is greater than 64 06:08 < kanzure> yes i'm aware that the answer is greater than 64 -_- 06:08 < fenn> most people aren't aware 06:08 < archels> if you're the person painting them on, you might say 32 06:09 < kanzure> what's a quick way to stitch up the cognitive consilience google map tiles 06:09 < kanzure> something something imagemagick, right? 06:09 < fenn> google says 204 www.teachingideas.co.uk/maths/chess.htm 06:09 < fenn> "the 8th pyramid number" 06:10 < fenn> what pyramid number is around 19 billion? 06:11 < fenn> i watched "computer chess" and was thoroughly disappointed. kanzure you should be ashamed for being from the same city this film was produced :D 06:11 < kanzure> austin has many terrible film people. 06:14 < kanzure> montage -border 0 -geometry 16384x -tile 64x48 8-*.jpg final.jpg 06:14 < kanzure> montage -border 0 -geometry 16384x -tile 1x48 8-1-*.jpg final.jpg 06:14 < kanzure> grr... 06:16 < kanzure> montage -border 0 -geometry 512x -tile 1x2 8-31-6.jpg 8-31-7.jpg testing-0001.jpg 06:16 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/cognitiveconsilience/c_all/tiles/testing-0001.jpg 06:16 < fenn> python -c "print sum(x**2 for x in range(4000))" 06:16 < fenn> 4000 hierarchical squares have ~21 billion squares total 06:16 < kanzure> .py print sum(x**2 for x in range(4000)) 06:16 < yoleaux> 404 Not Found

Error: Not Found

The requested URL /py/print%20sum(x**2%20for%20x%20in%20range(4000)) was not found on this server.

06:16 < kanzure> dpk! 06:17 < fenn> 4000 levels of hierarchy i mean 06:18 < kanzure> i wonder if i should downsample these tiles before tiling the tiles.... 06:18 < fenn> are you just making a concatenation of a bunch of images? 06:18 < kanzure> cognitive consilience google maps thing 06:18 < kanzure> they did not provide a download of their high-resolution image 06:18 < kanzure> (diagram) 06:18 < kanzure> i was able to get their tiles though 06:19 < kanzure> index of tiles http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/cognitiveconsilience/c_all/tiles/ 06:19 < kanzure> each one is 256x256 px 06:19 < JayDugger> Good morning everyone. 06:20 < fenn> oh heh this is a pretty similar problem in that it's a hierarchical set of squares that each contain some square number of squares 06:20 < fenn> a map tile contains a square number of map tiles at a higher zoom level 06:24 < fenn> i would do rows and then columns (or the other way around) instead of trying to figure out montage's tile 64x48 syntax to work and put the images in correct order 06:25 < kanzure> partly this is a RAM problem 06:25 < kanzure> i think my original syntax was correct 06:25 < fenn> i think -geometry 16384x is wrong 06:26 < kanzure> 8-64-48 is the "last" tile. 06:26 < kanzure> oh that parameter is the height, apparently... 06:26 < kanzure> so the value should be 12288 06:27 < fenn> less than a gigabyte of ram :P 06:27 < kanzure> maybe montage is just very very bloaty 06:28 < fenn> yeah imagemagick is not very optimized 06:28 < kanzure> it's taking more than a few seconds. i'm pretty sure that's unlikely here. 06:28 < kanzure> montage.im6: unable to acquire cache view `No space left on device' @ fatal/cache-view.c/AcquireAuthenticCacheView/121. 06:28 < kanzure> montage -border 0 -geometry 12288x -tile 1x48 8-31-*.jpg testing-0002.jpg 06:28 < kanzure> right.... 06:28 < kanzure> welp i guess i'll write my own pile of shit then 06:29 < juri_> laser tube imploded. 06:29 < juri_> damnit. 06:29 < kanzure> switch to solid state lasers 06:30 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-134-105-72.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:32 < fenn> if i had a laser i'd laser engrave a hallmark "sorry you lost your laser tube" card with just the right mix of sympathy and humor and sagacity 06:33 < fenn> no wait, i wouldn't 06:33 < kanzure> it's widely known that sharks with freaking laser beams attached to their freaking heads were clearly using solid state lasers 06:33 < fenn> or liquid state lasers 06:34 < fenn> or jello-state lasers http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a6503/how-to-make-a-laser-from-a-gin-and-tonic/ 06:36 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-134-105-72.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:39 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Quit: Namaste] 06:39 < pink_vampire> fenn: you can make laser TEA 06:39 < fenn> yes i've done it 06:40 < fenn> not a cup of tea, but rather some plates of aluminum foil and saran wrap and a high voltage 06:46 < pink_vampire> it's cool! 06:47 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:48 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/cognitiveconsilience/stitched-diagram.png 06:48 < kanzure> cc archels 06:49 < fenn> large PNG warning! 06:49 < fenn> shouldn't it be a .jpg anyway? 06:49 < kanzure> $ file stitched-diagram.png 06:49 < kanzure> stitched-diagram.png: PNG image data, 2048 x 1536, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced 06:50 < fenn> it was made from .jpg tiles 06:50 < kanzure> 70 MB source image (for the love of god don't open this) http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/cognitiveconsilience/stitched-mega-hyper-diagram.png 06:50 < fenn> it should be a 15MB jpg... 06:51 < kanzure> i wrote this for stitching http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/cognitiveconsilience/stitch.py 06:51 < kanzure> seems that converting from jpg to png is a possible thing 06:51 < fenn> no that's a bad thing to do 06:51 < fenn> bad bad bad 06:51 * kanzure grumbles and untars the tiles again.... 06:55 < kanzure> 11 MB source image http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/cognitiveconsilience/stitched-mega-hyper-diagram.jpg 06:55 < kanzure> 0.5 MB http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/cognitiveconsilience/stitched-diagram.jpg 06:56 < fenn> shit i opened it :( 06:57 < kanzure> RIP fenn's computer 06:57 < fenn> thrash thrash 06:58 < fenn> hitting your swap limit is always fun 06:58 < kanzure> i can resize smaller if anyone wants 06:59 < fenn> stitched-diagram.jpg contains all the relevant information in the bigger one 06:59 < fenn> but it's probably worth keeping both files 07:00 < poppingtonic> I'm running htop as I open that image. Whoa. 07:00 < kanzure> here's a legend, 07:00 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/cognitiveconsilience/images/defineplace.png 07:01 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/cognitiveconsilience/images/circuitplace.png 07:01 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/cognitiveconsilience/images/detailplace.png 07:01 < kanzure> not sure about the abbreviations like T07 etc... 07:02 < kanzure> those shortcodes don't appear in this file http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/cognitiveconsilience/fusiontables/2172063.dat.txt 07:02 < kanzure> 2172063.dat.txt seems to have coordinates for where to put information markers 07:04 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mvphhouygrrurlrb] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:05 < kanzure> oh actually, it seems that i did not get all of the fusiontable data 07:23 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:26 < kanzure> i think this is everything (1 MB) http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/cognitiveconsilience/fusiontables/2120514.dat.txt 07:28 < kanzure> and the "L96" stuff on the image is "first letter of the first author's name, followed by the two-digit year of the publication". 07:34 < kanzure> hmm c_all does not include the axons and projections. i'll have to grab that separately at some point. 07:40 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 07:49 < kanzure> http://www.deepspace.ucsb.edu/projects/directed-energy-planetary-defense "DE-STAR or Directed Energy System for Targeting of Asteroids and exploRation is a proposed system to deflect asteroids, comets, and other near Earth objects (NEOS) that pose a credible risk of impact. We propose an orbital planetary defense system capable of heating the surface of potentially hazardous objects to the point of vaporization. DE-STAR is a modular ... 07:49 < kanzure> ... phased array of kilowatt class lasers powered by photovoltaics (PV)." 07:49 < kanzure> asteroid ablation stuff. 07:50 < kanzure> "De-Spinning Asteroids: Using Laser Ablation to Manipulate Asteroid Motion" http://www.deepspace.ucsb.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Aidan-Gilkes-RMP-Paper-Final-correct-fig-4.pdf 07:51 < kanzure> "Orbital simulations on the deflection of Near Earth Objects by directed energy" http://www.deepspace.ucsb.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/zhang_spie2015_ASTEROID-r812b.pdf 07:51 < kanzure> "Simulations of directed energy thrust on rotating asteroids" http://www.deepspace.ucsb.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Griswold_etal_SPIE2015_AsteroidRotation_Paper_R42.pdf 07:51 < kanzure> "Local phase control for a planar array of fiber laser amplifiers" http://www.deepspace.ucsb.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Steffanic_etal_SPIE2015_PlanarArrayControl_Paper_R02.pdf 07:51 < kanzure> "Space Debris Mitigation Utilizing Laser Ablation" http://www.deepspace.ucsb.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Final-Draft-Paper.pdf 07:52 < kanzure> "Optical modeling for a laser phased-array directed energy system" http://www.deepspace.ucsb.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Hughes_etal_SPIE2014_OpticalSimulation_Paper_R05.pdf 07:52 -!- abetusk [~abe@2601:184:4002:2290:f1a8:a452:1c0f:93f8] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:53 -!- abetusk [~abe@2601:184:4002:2290:69e6:24ea:434d:5782] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:53 -!- abetusk is now known as Guest19689 08:02 -!- augur [~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:03 -!- augur [~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:05 -!- augur_ [~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:05 -!- augur [~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:05 -!- augur_ [~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:09 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:16 < docl> It would be cool if you could use a phased array to print asteroids to make more lasers. 08:16 -!- andares [~andares@2607:fb90:f32:15be:8680:2cbd:d7dc:6ff4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:16 -!- andares [~andares@2607:fb90:f32:15be:8680:2cbd:d7dc:6ff4] has quit [Changing host] 08:16 -!- andares [~andares@unaffiliated/jacco] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:20 -!- ortiz [sid26574@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-soocciqdyimyrduy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:21 -!- ortiz [sid26574@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-soocciqdyimyrduy] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 08:35 -!- |nodux [uid125132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wxxnduwgnfrnfstd] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:41 -!- andares is now known as esmerelda 08:44 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Excess Flood] 08:51 < docl> kanzure: did you get a chance to look at this one? http://www.physics.uci.edu/tajima/Ebisuzakietal2015.pdf 08:52 < docl> from http://gnusha.org/logs/2015-12-05.log 08:52 < JayDugger> Thank you for posting those links, kanzure. 08:54 < kanzure> sorta, yes. 09:06 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@37.218.156.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:16 < FourFire> Hey, anyone who has collections of textbooks, do they have http://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Engineering-Mathematics-Erwin-Kreyszig/dp/0470458364/ref=mt_hardcover?_encoding=UTF8&me= ? 09:19 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@212.241.15.137] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:22 -!- augur [~augur@c-174-61-36-135.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:25 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:26 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Client Quit] 09:31 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:43 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:02 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:03 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:13 -!- augur [~augur@c-174-61-36-135.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:31 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.72] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:50 < kanzure> "A new empirical constraint on the prevalence of technological species in the universe" (2015) http://arxiv.org/pdf/1510.08837.pdf 10:56 < jrayhawk> fenn: well, things get arbitrarily screwy with e.g. nmda receptor antibodies 10:59 < kanzure> here is a journal of "science fiction studies" http://www.jstor.org/journal/sciefictstud 11:00 < kanzure> which apparently benford has written for http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.5612/sciefictstud.42.issue-1 11:01 < Diablo-D3> .title http://www.nature.com/news/alien-life-could-thrive-in-ancient-star-clusters-1.19124 11:01 < yoleaux> Alien life could thrive in ancient star clusters : Nature News & Comment 11:06 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.72] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:07 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@212.241.15.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:21 < FourFire> invited Patthseeker to the channel, he has some problems he'd like to discuss 11:26 -!- Pathseeker [~Pathseeke@176.4.138.171] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:30 -!- Madars [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:33 -!- a7b9d6e6_ [~a7b9d6e6@static.214.43.251.148.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:38 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: vicarion, a7b9d6e6 11:45 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:47 -!- vicarion [~net@2001:388:608c:6cb5:207a:bcc6:a1a2:f0d8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:48 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.77] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:48 -!- esmerelda [~andares@unaffiliated/jacco] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:51 -!- |nodux [uid125132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wxxnduwgnfrnfstd] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 11:54 < atomical> i can give emotional support 12:12 < Pathseeker> whats this channel about 12:25 < kanzure> it's about single-neuron electroporation, tool wrench topology optimization, epistemology, dna synthesis, open-source software, and total world domination. 12:26 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=d1123255 Bryan Bishop: fix typo in hplusroadmap description >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/hplusroadmap/ 12:26 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:38 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:42 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:44 < kanzure> http://gnusha.org/logs/hashes/loghashes.003.txt 93cc643753fc0de59acb96c818ad84c80a6b54d4fdf88f29cc265b369edbfa4c 12:45 < kanzure> http://gnusha.org/logs/archives/hplusroadmap-2016-01-07.tar.gz 9a083d7e58cefd90f4a6fac7d29ecdf599e7e86b55a2a18335a23c1ab4805cdd 12:53 -!- nmz787_i1 [~ntmccork@134.134.139.76] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:54 -!- Houshalter2 [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:55 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.77] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:55 < kanzure> log files: 2008: 277, 2009: 337, 2010: 357, 2011: 362, 2012: 366, 2013: 365, 2014: 365, 2015: 365, 2016: 7 12:57 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:06 -!- vikraman [~vh4x0r@gentoo/developer/vikraman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:08 -!- vikraman [~vh4x0r@gentoo/developer/vikraman] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:16 < atomical> kanzure: what's your day job? 13:16 < nmz787_i1> bitcoin wizard 13:26 -!- Madars [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:43 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:43 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session] has quit [Changing host] 13:43 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sddaxgysijgukiet] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:50 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: justanotheruser, Gurkenglas, PatrickRobotham 13:51 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@ip70-187-8-107.om.om.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:51 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:51 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Gurkenglas 13:51 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session] has quit [Changing host] 13:51 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zvmxcdntmnyenqjq] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:51 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@ip70-187-8-107.om.om.cox.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 13:53 -!- Pathseeker [~Pathseeke@176.4.138.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:55 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:07 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Quit: Namaste] 14:19 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mvphhouygrrurlrb] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 14:32 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:40 -!- Houshalter2 [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:42 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:46 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:51 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-211-26-108.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:51 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-146-42-154.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:01 -!- augur [~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:02 -!- augur [~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:03 -!- augur [~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:03 -!- augur [~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:04 -!- augur [~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:30 < kanzure> "Homogeneous cosmology with aggressively expanding civilizations" http://arxiv.org/pdf/1411.4359.pdf 15:32 < kanzure> "On the visible size and geometry of aggressively expanding civilizations at cosmological distances" http://arxiv.org/pdf/1512.01521.pdf 15:36 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:48 < docl> xentrac: http://www.jove.com.sci-hub.io/video/4299/fabricating-metamaterials-using-the-fiber-drawing-method 15:52 < docl> .title 15:52 < yoleaux> Fabricating Metamaterials Using the Fiber Drawing Method | Protocol 15:56 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:56 < docl> the shrink indium wire to 10 micrometers, with plastic preforms. 16:18 < kanzure> various doi prefixes https://gist.github.com/TomDemeranville/8699232 16:25 < kanzure> halp i have dropped into the weird area of the internet again 16:25 < kanzure> https://github.com/santex/AI-MicroStructure 16:26 < kanzure> https://github.com/santex/micro-biological 16:26 < kanzure> https://github.com/santex/micro-neuro/tree/master/json 16:41 < kanzure> nmz787_i1: pffft "Nothing is really off-topic unless it is obviously non-productive." 16:46 < nmz787_i1> :D I wasn't sure how to word it better, so I figured I'd better get back to paying work 16:47 < nmz787_i1> if it doesn't propel humanity forward, it isn't productive and therefore not for ##hplusroadmap 16:57 -!- atomical_ [~atomical@wl2142.cin.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:00 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zvmxcdntmnyenqjq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:01 -!- atomical [~atomical@wl2142.cin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:14 -!- vicarion [~net@2001:388:608c:6cb5:207a:bcc6:a1a2:f0d8] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:27 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jtqzlkwwyqcjmrln] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:28 -!- |nodux [uid125132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rltzhrevsvakyqox] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:32 -!- Guest19689 is now known as abetusk 17:51 -!- vicarion [~net@2001:388:608c:6cb5:2457:f1c9:ee5a:e5eb] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:51 < docl> "A centimetre-sized preform is assembled by stacking indium wires surrounded by Zeonex29 (a polymer with low absorption at terahertz frequencies) into a hollow polymethyl methacrylate (PMMA) tube. This is heated and drawn to fibre, forming a tapered transition region where the polymer is viscous and the metal is liquid. The end product is a fibre containing a long continuous array of metal microwires. 17:51 < docl> The fibre can be cut into a large number of smaller length devices." 17:51 < docl> http://sci-hub.io/10.1038/ncomms3706 17:53 < docl> .title http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2013/131028/ncomms3706/full/ncomms3706.html 17:53 < yoleaux> Metamaterial fibres for subdiffraction imaging and focusing at terahertz frequencies over optically long distances : Nature Communications : Nature Publishing Group 17:56 < vicarion> so what are we going to use them for? seeing through clothes? 17:58 -!- jtimon [~quassel@103.red-80-26-235.adsl.dynamic.ccgg.telefonica.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:00 < docl> it seems to be a relatively cheap vector for bootstrapping nanofactories, for one thing 18:06 < docl> with plastic fibers, you don't need as much heat as with glass. if you could get away with a shorter style of drawing tower, it would be roughly as difficult as a reprap or similar plastic extrusion based 3d printer. 18:09 < docl> they use indium for the wire. I wonder if solder would work just as well? 18:32 < docl> (I'm assuming you need a core with a lower melting point than the plastic.) 18:36 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:42 -!- nmz787_i1 [~ntmccork@134.134.139.76] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:46 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@p276100-ipngn200702kyoto.kyoto.ocn.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:12 < kanzure> "Multimodal optogenetic neural interfacing device fabricated by scalable optical fiber drawing technique" https://www.osapublishing.org/ao/abstract.cfm?uri=ao-54-34-10068 19:18 < kanzure> "Enhancement of magnetic resonance imaging with metasurfaces" http://arxiv.org/pdf/1507.01411.pdf 19:26 -!- atomical_ [~atomical@wl2142.cin.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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