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00:16 < poppingtonic> .title http://investingnews.com/daily/life-science-investing/medical-device-investing/dna-nanobots-to-target-cancer-cells-in-first-human-trial/
00:16 < yoleaux> DNA Nanobots to Target Cancer Cells in First Human Trial - Investing News Network
00:19 < kanzure> .tw 689521611611971588
00:19 < yoleaux> Breakup, as captured by my fitbit. #breakup #Fitbit https://t.co/S9sLV2TlCC (@iamkoby)
00:19 < kanzure> meh.
00:28 < archels> lol
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03:43 < FourFire> kanzure, well I had a rather low opinion of Istvan earlier but someone tipped me off that his book is supposed to be good, look at the reviews on amazon, saw bostrom was positive of it, decided to "meh I'll read it to say I have", mostly it's just made me alternatiely angry and embarassed so far and I'm only 20% in
03:46 < FourFire> To be clear, I am all for not using Teamviewer, if I can just get something to work which gives approximately the same functioality
03:46 < FourFire> I use TV because my workplace uses it
03:48 < FourFire> > <nmz787> why isn't there more roadmapping going on in here if you like I could post a piratepad with my roadmap for my "design arbitrary protein nanomachines" tool
03:48 < FourFire> have it in the topic or whatever
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04:15 < archels> FourFire: it was alright, nothing too revelatory though
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04:28 < FourFire> Also reading Atlas Shrugged, noticing some shared patterns in both of those...
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06:50 < kanzure> nmz787: sure, share your roadmap
06:53 < kanzure> http://genotopia.scienceblog.com/573/a-whig-history-of-crispr/
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07:00 < FourFire> kanzure, sorry that was my comment after the quote of nmz787, poor formatting on my end
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08:29 < maaku> FourFire sure share your roadmap too
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09:06 < archels_> 1. do science
09:06 < archels_> 2. ???
09:06 < archels_> 3. profit
09:11 < maaku> Step #2 needs clarity
09:13 < kanzure> i think step 1 is wrong
09:14 < cluckj> maybe 3, 1, 2, instead?
09:19 < archels_> it's based on the bazaar model of development
09:20 < kanzure> "wait for someone else do it"?
09:21 < archels_> incremental and distributed
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09:47 < maaku> "Lacking planning and direction"
09:50 < juri_> 1: YOLO. 2: set fire to everything. 3: watch it burn. 4: ??? 5: profit.
09:51 < juri_> my plan has more steps. this makes it more viable than my opposition's plans. what is archels_ hiding, america?
09:52  * juri_ hangs a 'MAKE SCIENCE GREAT AGAIN' banner.
09:54 < cluckj> can we build a wall around science plz
09:55 < kanzure> my new multi-billion dollar science fortress will put everyone to work and create equal misery and suffering for everyone
09:59 < juri_> sounds like the star of any economic plan. perhaps we should place it in orbit, for everyone to see?
10:05 < docl> 1. omnivorous refining via mass spectrometer. 2. ultra-high vacuum chambers for everyone's desktop. 3. optical fiber drawing towers for every home. 4. self replicating factory systems that can operate in space.
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11:48 < nmz787_i> FourFire: yeah I'd like to take a look
11:48 < FourFire> nmz787_i, ok well i guess I'll have to write it down first, then I'll link it in channel
11:48 < nmz787_i> kanzure: my roadmap is pretty much distributed in the logs in here already
11:49 < FourFire> currently trying to get just a freaking OS that will work with Skylake's iGPU
11:49 < FourFire> apparently debian stable uses kernel 3.16 !
11:49 < FourFire> so I'mn ty\rying testing which i downloaded first three isos of in november
11:49 < FourFire> Arch...
11:50 < nmz787_i> not much has changed... I now have a BRLCAD model of a microfluidic peristaltic pump (but it isn't hooked up to anything yet)... and I realized that the g-code needs some massaging from simple being a simple BREP... which means I need to build my laser power controller (PWM to LM317 is my first attack method)
11:50 < FourFire> well let me quote this forum post I found while looking at automated install options: "Are you going to support all the morons that run this then show up here aslking to have their hand held some more when they can't update their 1337 arch install?
11:50 < FourFire> It's fine scratching your own itch and automating your install. But look through the boards at all of the threads where similar scripts just resulted in more hapless help vampires showing up demanding help."
11:50 < nmz787_i> hmm
11:51 < juri_> nmz787_i: i cry a tear... ;)
11:51 < nmz787_i> when you say iGPU do you mean the iris on-board graphics?
11:51 < FourFire> that's from a forum admin, so I guess if I can't code a kernel module I'm not welcome.
11:51 < FourFire> not iris, just HD 530
11:51 < nmz787_i> juri_: :D
11:51 < FourFire> it's just the latest generation of graphics
11:52 < nmz787_i> juri_: FWIW I do still like the syntax of implicitCAD... but my python to BRLCAD thing is getting stronger the more examples I exercise
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11:54 < nmz787_i> FourFire: what is your current distro and kernel version, and what is your preferred distro?
11:54 < nmz787_i> do you care about kernel version, as long as it works?
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11:54 < juri_> nmz787_i: we're still busily improving it.
11:55 < FourFire> I don't have a preferred distro, don't care about kernel version as long as it's high performance, supports USB3.0 and 7xx series nvidia (or can with simple driver install)
11:55 < FourFire> this is supposed to be a KVM install, then what I actually want to do is in the vms
11:55 < nmz787_i> FourFire: wait so you want nvidia and onboard graphics?
11:56 < nmz787_i> onboard just to get booted up? so you can install nvidia drivers? maybe you can just bring up a remote terminal for the driver install?
11:56 < FourFire> I want to use CUDA acceleration for my MolDyn simulations
11:57 < nmz787_i> does the onboard support that (I am thinking not)
11:59 < nmz787_i> hmm, I am not sure of the problem FourFire... it seems other folks have it working http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel-hd-530&num=1
11:59 < FourFire> nmz787_i, CUDA is proprietary Nvidia lockin
11:59 < nmz787_i> (not CUDA)
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12:01 < nmz787_i> FourFire: I can ask some folks internally if you can frame the question for me
12:03 < FourFire> nmz787_i, I'm in #debian, going to try their thing first
12:04 < archels_> http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/01/smartphone-based-system-does-job-of-pancreas-treats-type-1-diabetes/
12:04 < archels_> "artificial organ"
12:04 < archels_> where can I buy some of these wearable blood glucose monitors?
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12:25 < Diablo-D3> .title http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/221442-graphene-optical-capacitors-can-make-neuromorphic-chips-meshing-biophysics-and-semiconductors
12:25 < yoleaux> Graphene ‘optical capacitors’ can make chips that mesh biophysics and semiconductors | ExtremeTech
12:25 < Diablo-D3> on the scale of clickbait headlines, I give that a 5 out of 7
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13:30 < nmz787_i> FourFire: I was recommended this https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/intel-graphics-installer-linux-1.2.1
13:31 < FourFire> I got it working now!
13:31 < nmz787_i> nice
13:31 < kanzure> FourFire: write down everything you did in a text file
13:31 < nmz787_i> was it easy?
13:31 < FourFire> Just now need to get KVM working and then CUDA, and then gromacs
13:31 < FourFire> as soon as I knew what to do, yes
13:31 < nmz787_i> FourFire: what kanzure said... I may buy a skylake soon
13:34 < FourFire> done.
13:34 < FourFire> I'll write my roadmap starting tomorrow, if I have time, need to sleep now.
13:37 < nmz787_i> I can't remember if I posted this here yesterday: http://nanowires.berkeley.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Science-2016-Sakimoto-74-7.pdf
13:37 < nmz787_i> Self-photosensitization of nonphotosynthetic bacteria for solar-to-chemical production
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14:07 < cluckj> archels_, you need a prescription
14:08 < cluckj> and a few thousand dollars
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14:11 < maaku> FourFire: still waiting on your roadmap ;)
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20:36 < kanzure> hmph
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21:04 < nmz787> srsly
21:13 < kanzure> do you guys wanna go steal one of those unmanned parked oil tankers with me?
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22:10 < Diablo-D3> shit
22:11 < Diablo-D3> does anyone have that link I posted the other day about the shotgun effect study about Alzheimers
22:11 < Diablo-D3> where its trying to boost mitochondrial performance en masse?
22:11 < Diablo-D3> the one that was really similar to the experiment Ive been running
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22:12 < Diablo-D3> nm, found it
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