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01:00 < FourFire> kanzure, what is the maximum Transactions per second of the current implimentation of the bitcoin network, what is the limiting factor, and how far away is a technical increase/fix ?
01:16 < nmz787> 6
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01:17 < nmz787> howdy irseeyou
01:17 < irseeyou> nmz787: Do much with Chem at all?
01:18 < nmz787> day to day, not much, but in general studying and goals, yes
01:18 < nmz787> day to day I program stuff in Python about electrical engineering
01:18 < nmz787> but at night, I play with making micro and nanofluidics
01:19 < nmz787> with aim to assemble DNA
01:19 < irseeyou> Can you do a SEM image through glass, or is that not possible?
01:20 < nmz787> nah, it's all surface
01:20 < irseeyou> I was going to say it would be neat to take an image of nanocopper during catalysis of some sort
01:20 < nmz787> you pull a vacuum between the emitting electrode and the sample is your opposite electrode.. and you sort of have a not-so-sparky lightning bolt
01:20 < nmz787> since there is no ionization of gas
01:21 < nmz787> well there is eSEM
01:21 < nmz787> which is low-vacuum
01:21 < nmz787> and they can watch some chemistry happen as long as it doesn't boil off into the beam chamber (much)
01:21 < irseeyou> hmm thats really cool.
01:22 < nmz787> irseeyou: http://www.2spi.com/item/12130-ab/
01:22 < nmz787> .title
01:22 < yoleaux> Wet Cell II Liquid Probe System for SEM/EDS,EPMA and TOF-SIMS : 12130-AB : SPI Supplies
01:23 < irseeyou> Everything fun is so expensive :D
01:23 < nmz787> when the electron beam hits, they absorb/bounce off/re-emit... and you can get energy-loss spectra... also photons emit because electrons are crashing through orbitals
01:24 < nmz787> so you can get xray spectra
01:24 < nmz787> irseeyou: well, engineering it all yourself costs lifetimes
01:25 < nmz787> but you can definitely pick and choose your battles
01:25 < nmz787> or get hired by someone who can afford all these nice things ;)
01:26 < nmz787> the hackerspaces can be very powerful allies
01:26 < irseeyou> I tried to get in at a SEM manf. they wanted a QA guy
01:26 < nmz787> NION or something?
01:27 < nmz787> (just based on the IRC joining server name thing, it seems you're in washington)
01:28 < irseeyou> yep yep nion
01:28 < irseeyou> I managed to score a contact at a medical place instead though but that ended just recently
01:29 < irseeyou> contract*
01:30 < nmz787> are in you college?
01:30 < irseeyou> nmz787: nah
01:31 < nmz787> was gonna say you should have good resources there
01:31 < irseeyou> I'm pretty much just going to try to start my own business I have some neat ideas of stuff to do with a tormach
01:32 < nmz787> with science stuff?
01:32 < nmz787> like building equipment?
01:32 < irseeyou> Micro pumps, water blocks, engines, hydraulic rams, reaction blocks, and custom scientific stuff
01:32 < nmz787> nice
01:33 < irseeyou> I can sell a lot of the expensive stuff for far cheaper than is available online making it available to hobbyists and researchers
01:33 < nmz787> are you a chemE already then?
01:33 < irseeyou> Negative
01:33 < nmz787> ever work with super/sub critical CO2?
01:33 < irseeyou> I have a mix of education MechE/ChemE/and EE
01:33 < irseeyou> I have not..very interesting stuff though
01:33 < nmz787> yeah for sure
01:33 < irseeyou> I heard its being used to extract pot here lately
01:33 < nmz787> are you a welder?
01:34 < nmz787> yeah
01:34 < nmz787> no butane/petroleum remnant
01:34 < nmz787> but that is it's utility in many areas
01:34 < nmz787> including dry cleaning clothes
01:34 < irseeyou> nmz787: I can stick weld, better at MIG...and I thought about getting a TIG so I can make a pressure swing adsorption system
01:35 < nmz787> and also critical-point drying of biological specimens for electron microscopy... and for making aerogel
01:35 < irseeyou> I saw Ben's aerogel experiment...thats on my bucket list to make
01:35 < nmz787> I think stainless is needed/preferred for most vacuum systems
01:35 < nmz787> because it doesn't oxidize and rust, which adsorbs moisture, which looks like a virtual leak (the moisture takes a while to boil off in vacuum)
01:36 < nmz787> as in every time you open and close the chamber
01:36 < irseeyou> I have some vacuum stuff but ive hardly used it
01:36 < irseeyou> I wanted to try thermal vapor depostition
01:37 < nmz787> i'm trying to do some lithography lately using this mini blue laser CNC
01:37 < nmz787> but am really slow
01:37 < irseeyou> nmz787: chemical or laser lithography stuff?
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01:38 < nmz787> irseeyou: coating a glass slide with photoresist, activating with a laser CNC
01:38 < irseeyou> oh cool!
01:38 < nmz787> then you still have to develop it afterward to finalize
01:38 < irseeyou> What kinda size can you get with that?
01:39 < nmz787> I bet around 100 microns to start, maybe better but probably not much since I don't have a good focusing mechanism
01:39 < nmz787> the goal is to prove the concept, then move to a bluray writer laser head
01:39 < nmz787> which should get sub-micron
01:40 < irseeyou> very impressive
01:40 < nmz787> and with defocus should also be able to achieve larger feature sizes
01:40 < irseeyou> Whats your goal for lithography?
01:40 < nmz787> to make micro reactors
01:40 < irseeyou> no freakin way
01:40 < nmz787> so called microfluidics
01:41 < irseeyou> I was reading about micro reactors a few months ago
01:41 < irseeyou> I love how they scale...the potential to ship out something to a 3rd world country to make their own fertizers from thin air is quite neat
01:41 < irseeyou> They scale really good
01:42 < nmz787> yeah there are all sorts of things you can do
01:42 < nmz787> especially with advanced materials
01:42 < nmz787> or really fine engineering/machining
01:43 < nmz787> I also sometimes have access to a Focused Ion Beam
01:43 < nmz787> .wik focused ion beam
01:43 < yoleaux> "Focused ion beam, also known as FIB, is a technique used particularly in the semiconductor industry, materials science and increasingly in the biological field for site-specific analysis, deposition, and ablation of materials. A FIB setup is a scientific instrument that resembles a scanning electron microscope (SEM)." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focused_ion_beam
01:43 < irseeyou> nmz787: You're in a university I take it?
01:44 < nmz787> nah I am a software engineer these days
01:44 < nmz787> I went to school for biotechnology but leaned more toward technology
01:44 < irseeyou> good area for biotech too
01:44 < irseeyou> lots of companies up here
01:45 < nmz787> the semiconductor stuff is generally more interesting to me actually
01:45 < nmz787> just because of, like you said, scaling
01:46 < nmz787> most biotech people are not that well equipped to talk to such kinds of engineers
01:46 < irseeyou> You know Jeri Ellesworth right?
01:46 < nmz787> just from online
01:46 < nmz787> I mean I've seen her stuff
01:46 < irseeyou> yeah you heard her story about designing her first IC at the company? lol she had no idea what she was doing and almost got sued for it
01:47 < nmz787> is that the one she went on to do a kickstarter for?
01:47 < irseeyou> Well...she had every idea of what she was doing...just no experience
01:47 < nmz787> or was that way before that ?
01:47 < irseeyou> nmz787: No she made this gaming thing...and commited to have the IC fab'd and hoped and prayed it would work lol
01:48 < irseeyou> she tells the story in one of her vids its really funny and inspiring
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01:49 < nmz787> oh, idk, not familiar with that
01:49 < nmz787> I remember her kickstarter, and her etching something with HydroFluoric acid in her house
01:49 < irseeyou> What are your 2016 goals for what you're up to?
01:49 < irseeyou> Working on any IC's or something?
01:50 < nmz787> hmm
01:50 < nmz787> well
01:50 < nmz787> I haven't really thought of chunking it out like that
01:50 < nmz787> but now that you mention it
01:50 < nmz787> I guess I want to actually make a microfluidic device this year, some how, that does at least something stupid
01:51 < irseeyou> If you think I can be of any help let me know. I'm pretty good at CAD/Autodesk Inventor. I can whip you up schematics or something if it helps.
01:52 < irseeyou> I'd love to take part in a microreactor
01:53 < nmz787> would you like to work on that hackaday project I linked to?
01:53 < nmz787> I could send you a board at least, and maybe some chips
01:53 < nmz787> the files are done in kicad
01:53 < irseeyou> What in particular is there you need done for that guy?
01:54 < nmz787> just debugged electrically I think, I messed up a footprint for an LDO (dumb mistake) and then realized that part is obsolete
01:54 < nmz787> I never wrote the ADC part of the firmware
01:54 < irseeyou> I don't think I'd be much help on that to be honest
01:55 < nmz787> I only ask since you mentioned spectrometers before
01:55 < nmz787> have you ever played with BRLCAD?
01:55 < irseeyou> Never heard of it /google
01:56 < irseeyou> hmm i've never had good luck with the open source cad stuff
01:56 < nmz787> well it was mainly developed by the military
01:56 < nmz787> so it is bullet-tested, you might say
01:57 < nmz787> this is what I've found to be my most comfortable way of interacting with the tool https://github.com/nmz787/python-brlcad-tcl/tree/master/examples
01:57 < irseeyou> nmz787: https://i.imgur.com/GRCdHjr.png - Roots pump I built
01:57 < nmz787> specifically this one is a pretty decent example https://github.com/nmz787/python-brlcad-tcl/blob/master/examples/motor_28BYJ_48__example.py
01:58 < nmz787> output here https://github.com/nmz787/python-brlcad-tcl/blob/master/examples/output/motor_28BYJ_48__example.stl
01:58 < nmz787> (one form of its output)
01:59 < nmz787> irseeyou: pump looks nice
02:00 < nmz787> now do you think you can build it?
02:00 < irseeyou> nmz787: as in machine it?
02:00 < nmz787> yeah
02:00 < nmz787> is it a fluid or gas or vacuum pump?
02:00 < irseeyou> yeah goes straight to G-Code
02:00 < irseeyou> that one will just be a fluid pump
02:01 < nmz787> how about tolerances?
02:01 < irseeyou> Tormach is good to 0.0005" IIRC
02:02 < nmz787> huh, sounds pretty good
02:02 < nmz787> let me know when you're running jobs ;)
02:03 < nmz787> all these little things need supported by larger things usually
02:03 < irseeyou> It's going to be a while before I can get a tormach in, but I hope to have one this year
02:03 < nmz787> well I need to go sleep now
02:04 < irseeyou> Have a good one. I'll catch you on here again sometime.
02:04 < nmz787> yeah, stick around... lots of people in here with usually something good to contribute
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04:11 < archels_> .title http://murgen.echopen.org/
04:11 < yoleaux> the Murgen project – A small electronic fork from echOpen
04:11 < archels_> kanzure: ^
04:14 < chris_99> there doesn't seem to be any info on what transducer they're using etc.?
04:16 < archels_> yeah, wasn't aware there were other open hardware efforts underway to get this done though
04:16 < archels_> don't think these came up before here, anyway
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04:18 < chris_99> there is quite a lot of stuff on what it's forked from though - http://echopen.org/index.php?title=Category:Transducer
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05:08 < streety> did you see the article on super resolution ultrasound?
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05:10 < chris_99> https://github.com/echopen/hardware/tree/master/electronics/murgen%201.0%20beta has some more info too. The microchip IC they're using looks really interesting - HV7360
05:10 < chris_99> what's that streety?
05:12 < streety> http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v527/n7579/full/nature16066.html
05:13 < streety> using microbubbles to image at a resolution higher than the ultrasound wavelength
05:13 < chris_99> interesting!
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06:22 < atomical> |
06:22 < atomical> oh he left
06:22 < atomical> FUUUU
06:22 < atomical> i had something unimportant to say to him
06:22 < archels_> .tell atomical greetings
06:22 < yoleaux> archels_: I'll pass your message to atomical.
06:22 < archels_> now say something
06:22 < atomical> hi
06:22 < yoleaux> 14:22Z <archels_> atomical: greetings
06:23 < atomical> .tell |node hey, what's up?
06:23 < yoleaux> atomical: I'll pass your message to |node.
06:23 < atomical> .tell kanzure hi
06:23 < yoleaux> atomical: I'll pass your message to kanzure.
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06:40 < kanzure> FourFire: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-December/011865.html
06:40 < yoleaux> 14:23Z <atomical> kanzure: hi
06:42 < kanzure> bot abuse is a felony
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07:11 < kanzure> aaaaaaaaaaaa
07:12 < JayDugger> Evocative, if vague.
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07:29 < atomical> kanzure: are you willing to amend the charge to a petty offense?
07:29 < atomical> i just had that happen with a speeding ticket
07:29 < kanzure> is this bribery?
07:31 < atomical> just the way the world works
07:32 < atomical> |node: hey buddy
07:33 < |node> hi
07:33 < yoleaux> 14:23Z <atomical> |node: hey, what's up?
07:35 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/physics/astrophysics/Starivore%20extraterrestrials%20-%20Interacting%20binary%20stars%20as%20macroscopic%20metabolic%20systems%20-%20Clement%20Vidal.pdf
07:35 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/space/Image%20restoration%20from%20a%20sequence%20of%20random%20masks.pdf
07:35 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/space/Orbiting%20rainbows%20-%20optical%20manipulation%20of%20aerosols%20and%20the%20beginnings%20of%20future%20space%20construction%20-%20NASA.pdf
07:36 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Soft%20materials%20in%20neuroengineering%20for%20hard%20problems%20in%20neuroscience%20-%202015.pdf
07:36 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Millisecond-timescale,%20genetically%20targeted%20optical%20control%20of%20neural%20activity%20-%20Boyden.pdf
07:36 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/DNA%20methylation%20in%20memory%20formation%20-%20emerging%20insights%20-%202015.pdf
07:36 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Designing%20scalable%20biological%20interfaces%20-%20Marblestone.pdf
07:36 < kanzure> ^things that have been on my mind
07:39 < JayDugger> RIT. Makes sense.
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12:30 < nmz787_i1> JayDugger: what about Rochester Institute of Technology (RIT)?
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14:03 < drethelin> how's the biotech guys
14:06 < kanzure> apparently human bodies require food and i am going to get lunch so there's that
14:08 < archels_> just drink your Soylent and continue working
14:09 < drethelin> just put soylent in an IV and save even more time
14:12 < kanzure> you mean i'm not supposed to put anabolic steroid injections through my forehead veins?
14:17 < Diablo-D3> wait
14:17 < Diablo-D3> what
14:20 < kanzure> hacker steroids
14:21 < juri_> meth. just use meth.
14:26 < AdrianG> meth.
14:26 < AdrianG> +1
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14:58 < cpopell6> I know someone who did meth when he was without adderall for a few months
14:59 < Diablo-D3> honestly
14:59 < Diablo-D3> Im not even sure if that was a bad idea
15:00 < cpopell6> well, he's pretty educated on biochemistry as far as fitness and such goes
15:00 < cpopell6> and self experiments a shit ton
15:00 < AdrianG> was it gwern
15:00 < cpopell6> no
15:01 < cpopell6> https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/3zm37j/an_answer_to_could_methcokeetc_be_used_as_a/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/3zm37j/an_answer_to_could_methcokeetc_be_used_as_a/, he mentions transhumanism in the second bit
15:02 < Diablo-D3> you know
15:02 < Diablo-D3> I was going to say, oh, hey, theres an r/steroids
15:02 < Diablo-D3> but its reddit
15:02 < Diablo-D3> theres an /r/everything
15:03 < Diablo-D3> literally and figuratively
15:03 < cpopell6> there's a bunch of private steroid forums where they do, as far as I can tell, citizen science
15:03 < cpopell6> I don't do roids so I've never been invited
15:04 < Diablo-D3> I dunno
15:04 < Diablo-D3> Im considering it
15:04 < cpopell6> tbh kanzure would probably get along with this guy
15:04 < Diablo-D3> its like "oh your dick might shrink"
15:05 < Diablo-D3> my dicks big enough that that maaay be a point in my favor.
15:05 < cpopell6> said person is experimenting with hormones, I think, for dick growth
15:07 < cpopell6> also
15:07 < cpopell6> https://www.reddit.com/r/researchchemicals/comments/3iin1n/4fa_made_me_ask_my_fiancee_to_shit_on_my_chest/
15:08 < abetusk> top shelf conversation folks
15:08 < cpopell6> I mean, he's discussing self experimentation with research chemicals. He just happens to be a hedonist.
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16:14 < heath> haven't watched it yet https://vimeo.com/145702525 Super Science Friends - Episode 1: The Phantom Premise
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20:23 < kanzure> where did parahsailin go?
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21:30 < justanotheruser> maybe they're meeting up with tronaldrump
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22:48 < kanzure> but this one wasn't imaginary
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22:52 < fenn> sucked into the google machine
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