--- Log opened Mon Jan 25 00:00:14 2016 00:21 < fenn> 1) engineer computronium takeover 2) form scrappy and adorable biological resistance front 3) ??? 4) profit 00:22 < fenn> i may have mixed up steps 1 and 2 00:30 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:34 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:44 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:51 -!- |node [uid125132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wlrgmjjkzlusodqb] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 00:52 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:02 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:44 -!- poppingtonic1 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:46 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:46 -!- poppingtonic1 is now known as poppingtonic 02:04 -!- drethelin [~drethelin@24-241-226-112.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:14 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:51 -!- c0rw|zZz is now known as c0rw1n 02:54 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:53 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 03:55 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:58 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-56-33-91.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:01 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Quit: poppingtonic] 04:19 < eudoxia> ah, the university of sydney wised up to scihub 04:38 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:38 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:43 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-157-255-227.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:43 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-157-236-176.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:06 < kanzure> eudoxia: elaborate. 05:07 < kanzure> jrayhawk: you're here because we're the only assholes you can tolerate 05:08 < kanzure> fwiw, transhumanist entities could conceivably utilize computronium for singularitarian purposes, it's not like the computronium is going to have deep epistemic rejections of its user's intentions. 05:09 < eudoxia> kanzure: i cant find the article i tried to get :^) 05:10 < kanzure> but did they specifically block scihub from their ezproxy instance? 05:10 < eudoxia> "your session has been suspended because violations" 05:11 < kanzure> scihub uses random ezproxy accounts 05:11 < kanzure> usually students get their usernames suspended after their password leaks (especially if it gets added to scihub) 05:12 < eudoxia> hmm 05:12 < kanzure> speaking of which, i think there is a buffer overflow vulnerability in ezproxy, but i never took the time to completely investigate that 05:13 < kanzure> https://github.com/kanzure/ezproxy-urls/blob/master/urls.txt 05:18 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:19 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-56-33-91.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:42 -!- jtimon [~quassel@126.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:47 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@83.21.147.56] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:50 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@p276100-ipngn200702kyoto.kyoto.ocn.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:57 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pknbktgdctofrfzp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:01 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@83.21.147.56] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:06 -!- cpopell6 [~cpopell@c-73-200-185-48.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:09 < juri_> https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~wcohen/GuideToBiology-sampleChapter-release1.4.pdf 07:11 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@212.241.3.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:13 -!- atomical [~atomical@172.56.12.79] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:17 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@212.241.3.5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:20 -!- atomical_ [~atomical@wl2142.cin.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:24 -!- atomical [~atomical@172.56.12.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:25 -!- jdqx [~jdqx@2602:306:cc94:1950:6406:dc72:db23:fd3] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:25 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Quit: poppingtonic] 07:29 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@p276100-ipngn200702kyoto.kyoto.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: wrldpc1] 07:31 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@212.241.3.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:36 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@p276100-ipngn200702kyoto.kyoto.ocn.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:43 -!- irseeyou [~irseeyou@c-67-168-101-20.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:43 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@37.218.164.71] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:55 -!- atomical [~atomical@172.56.12.79] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:59 -!- atomical_ [~atomical@wl2142.cin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:25 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10967719 08:25 < yoleaux> The Villain of CRISPR | Hacker News 08:25 < kanzure> http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=1825 08:28 < cluckj> http://genotopia.scienceblog.com/573/a-whig-history-of-crispr/ 08:28 < cluckj> ^ 08:31 < kanzure> https://pubpeer.com/publications/D400145518C0A557E9A79F7BB20294 08:32 < cluckj> grab the popcorn and get in your comfy chair, this whole thing is about to get nasty 08:37 < kanzure> yea how long until character assassination attempts... 08:37 < kanzure> "YOU CAN SEE HIS BUTTHOLE ON THE WEB" it's true for at least one of them 08:38 < cluckj> oh it's already happened 08:39 < cluckj> I don't mean specifically about buttholes but lander's already being eaten alive 08:41 < cluckj> eisen got fairly nasty on twitter 08:45 < kanzure> alright then i upgrade my pessimistic question to: "how long until the first grad student suicide over this?" 08:47 < cluckj> when the nobel gets awarded to the wrong person? 08:50 < cpopell6> >'Update: One should also note the gender dynamics of the story. However conscious or unconscious it may be, efforts such as this underscore the often-subtle ways in which “history by the winners” still tends to end up being “history by the men.” ' 08:51 < kanzure> don't bring that in here 08:51 < cluckj> lol 08:51 < cpopell6> I'm making fun of it 08:51 < cluckj> rosalind franklin 2.0? 08:51 < cpopell6> sorry, rather 08:51 < kanzure> cluckj: please don't 08:51 < cpopell6> I'm laughing at it being in the blog post 08:52 < heath> https://vimeo.com/150837247 "4D Printing: Shapeshifting Architectures" 08:52 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:52 < cluckj> zzz 08:53 * heath isn't sticking around boulder for too long 08:54 < kanzure> did you meet up with my brother? 08:54 < heath> i haven't 08:54 < heath> i'll be heading that way tomorrow, i wouldn't mind meeting then 08:54 < heath> i'll contact him 08:55 < heath> the new destination is about an hour south of boston 08:56 < heath> moving there this weekend 08:57 < cluckj> you should check out BOS(S?)LAB if you haven't already 08:59 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pknbktgdctofrfzp] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 09:00 < cluckj> kanzure, https://storify.com/phylogenomics/eric-lander-crispr-history-and-conflicts-of-intere 09:07 -!- atomical_ [~atomical@wl2142.cin.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:09 < cluckj> https://bostonreview.net/editors-picks-books-ideas/yarden-katz-who-owns-molecular-biology this is old, but pretty decent 09:10 -!- atomical [~atomical@172.56.12.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:17 -!- |node [uid125132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sfbjxxbyxryftgig] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:18 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:30 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.76] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:31 -!- DiabloD3 is now known as Diablo-D3 09:40 -!- PatrickRobotham 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nmz787_i> I think I may have read that once 10:22 < nmz787_i> it seems like it would be able to reproduce that visualimic work 10:22 < chris_99> do you have a high fps camera, or are thinking about the rolling shutter method? 10:23 < nmz787_i> rolling shutter 10:23 < nmz787_i> though my cell phone can supposedly do 120FPS 10:23 < nmz787_i> or maybe 240 10:23 < chris_99> cool 10:23 < nmz787_i> must be 120 10:24 < chris_99> i wonder if you could use a PMT somehow, with a telescope, if you zoomed amazingly far into a plant leaf 10:24 < chris_99> or something 10:25 < nmz787_i> probably 10:26 < nmz787_i> the speed of the PMT would then need matched with some analog or ADC 10:26 < nmz787_i> https://github.com/brycedrennan/eulerian-magnification/blob/master/eulerian_magnify.py 10:26 < chris_99> mmm 10:27 < chris_99> oh i think i've seen that eulerian mag thing, isn't that the thing 10:27 < chris_99> where you can see someones pulse 10:27 < chris_99> from video 10:33 -!- wrldpc1 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(crisps) bag or plany 11:22 < nmz787_i> plant* 11:22 < chris_99> mmm 11:22 < chris_99> i was just looking on fleabay for old high speed cameras 11:23 < chris_99> theres suprisingly few 11:34 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.76] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:50 -!- drethelin [~drethelin@24-241-226-112.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:54 -!- Quashie_ [~boingredd@ool-18bccfe5.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:55 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dmqulmhhwrfezpmz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:57 -!- Quashie [~boingredd@ool-18bccfe5.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:07 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.137.75] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:07 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.137.75] has quit [Client Quit] 12:09 < Diablo-D3> http://crashsafari.com 12:11 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:15 -!- vikraman [~vh4x0r@gentoo/developer/vikraman] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 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13:59 < Alcyius> Also 14:00 < chris_99> haha 14:00 < chris_99> i like how it screws up the browser history 14:00 < Alcyius> It also crashes Vivaldi 14:00 < Alcyius> But it does it weirdly so all the processes keep going even if you close the window 14:01 < chris_99> did you try pkill? if on linux 14:01 < Alcyius> On windows 14:01 < Alcyius> gamer 14:01 < chris_99> aha 14:02 < Alcyius> Went into task manager and closed the processes until it realized that it crashed 14:02 < Alcyius> Also, did anyone see the 0.5x A presses video? 14:13 -!- pasky [~pasky@nikam.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:15 < kanzure> "gamer" is no longer a good excuse (because of steam) 14:19 < Alcyius> The games I play require 20 step workarounds to run on linux at all 14:20 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dmqulmhhwrfezpmz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 14:27 -!- pasky [~pasky@nikam.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:31 -!- cpopell6 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[~boingredd@ool-18bccfe5.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:11 < kanzure> welp we just lost marvin minsky 18:11 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:5d18:b08e:f1d0:66d8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:12 -!- Quashie__ [~boingredd@ool-18bccfe5.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:12 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:13 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:13 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:16 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r179-24-92-179.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:22 -!- |node [uid125132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tpsbfhtxdohannsn] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:23 < lkjhfr> kanzure: so... do you have a person to draw the manga? 18:24 < kanzure> not yet 18:26 < kanzure> got anyone? 18:28 < Diablo-D3> yeah I saw marvin minsky died 18:28 < Diablo-D3> WHAT THE FUCK 18:29 < Diablo-D3> SINCE WHEN DID ELIEZER HAVE A HN ACCOUNT 18:29 < Diablo-D3> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10971206 18:30 < maaku> since like, the creation of hackernews? 18:31 < maaku> also, had a chance to talk to Prof Minsky about anything, and he chose a 300 year old result in statistics? really? 18:32 < Diablo-D3> >2990 days ago 18:32 < Diablo-D3> goddamnit, 18:32 < kanzure> eliezer has been alive for a while, you know. 18:33 < Diablo-D3> he has 3 years on me. grr. 18:33 < Diablo-D3> kanzure: but why. 18:33 -!- Proteus [~Proteus@unaffiliated/proteus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:33 < Diablo-D3> and why is he still alive 18:33 < Diablo-D3> he was born to write that glorious fanfic 18:33 < Diablo-D3> everything else he does just detracts from that 18:34 -!- |node [uid125132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tpsbfhtxdohannsn] has quit [] 18:55 -!- atomical_ [~atomical@172.56.13.254] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:59 -!- atomical [~atomical@wl2142.cin.net] has quit [Ping 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