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03:24 < archels_> According to Cohen (2004), biological science asks
03:24 < archels_> six kinds of questions about domains ranging from
03:24 < archels_> molecules and cells, up to the biosphere:
03:24 < archels_> 1. How is it built? (Structures)
03:24 < archels_> 2. How does it work? (Mechanisms)
03:24 < archels_> 3. What is it for? (Functions)
03:24 < archels_> 4. What goes wrong? (Pathologies)
03:24 < archels_> 5. How is it fixed? (Repairs)
03:24 < archels_> 6. How did it begin? (Origins)
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04:16 < JayDugger> But not What is it good for? (I guess that's agriculture.)
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04:56 <@kanzure> archels: they forgot "how do i control it?" and "how do i eat it?"
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09:50 < fenn> dalrymple's tube transport patent cites a patent by gerard o'neill. it's a small world
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09:52 < fenn> o'neill was into magnetic levitation
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09:55 <@kanzure> well the o'neill citation is less surprising, i think everyone is expected to know him by now, after all he had an entire cylinder named after him.
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09:56 < cluckj> it's a big cylinder too
09:57 <@kanzure> just wait until you hear who gets the hexagram
09:57 < fenn> huh, apparently o'neill invented the particle storage ring (used in particle accelerators)
09:59 < docl> dyson got the sphere... from stapledon
10:00 < fenn> it's spelled hexagraham after prophet graham
10:07 < fenn> "Hex, Bugs, Rock & Roll"
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11:09 < xentrac> docl: did he actually read Stapledon or did he invent it independently?
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11:40 < fenn> i never heard about this happening: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_satellite_collision
11:40 < docl> xentrac: Dyson credits Stapledon, according to wikipedia (broken source link though) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olaf_Stapledon
11:40 < fenn> iridium satellite and defunct soviet military satellite collision
11:43 < fenn> russian, not soviet
11:43 < xentrac> I didn't realize
11:46 < fenn> "burning debris and fireballs were seen falling from the sky onto parts of Austin, Houston, Waco and San Antonio."  huh there were literally pieces raining down over me at the time
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12:07 < fenn> hum well apparently it was actually a bolide meteor, not satellite debris
12:09 < fenn> a lot of people thought it was an aircraft that had caught fire and exploded
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20:31 <@kanzure> http://galtse.cx/
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21:52 <@kanzure> hmph
22:07 < nmz787> ?
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23:30 < JayDugger> xentrac, Stapledon in turn credits Haldane.
23:31 < JayDugger> kanzure, I think agriculture subsumes "How do I control it," at least on the macro level, and cooking would cover "How do I eat it?"
23:31 <@kanzure> similarly, "who in their right mind would eat it?"
23:33 < JayDugger> That's easy. The same kind of people who discover any new food: the desperate and hungry, mostly. Lately, the bored and jaded.
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