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02:08 < archels> http://www.nature.com/news/destroying-worn-out-cells-makes-mice-live-longer-1.19287
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03:00 < clandestine> hi
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03:04 < clandestine> http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1631479/china-launch-hack-proof-quantum-communication-network-2016?page=all
03:04 < clandestine> quantum communication
03:05 < clandestine> look
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03:55 < chris_99> Has anyone ever seen somewhere that sells single AFM contact probes out of interest, everywhere i've looked so far seems to sell in packs of 10?
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04:12 < F7> By the Powers of FOSS and OSH,  I invoke thee.  I invoke thee, Paperbot!  I invoke thee, paperbot! http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25409121
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04:15 < chris_99> paperbot is dead :'(
04:22 < F7> I was worried about that
04:23 < F7> btw, the only companies I've found selling CAFM probes in single quantity have shitty pricing or really niche construction, typically both
04:23 < F7> rocky mountain nanotech, for example, will sell singles
04:23 < F7> http://rmnano.com/purchase.html
04:24 < F7> but that's like four or five times the going rate for CAFM probes I think.
04:25 < chris_99> ah, cheers for the heads up
04:25 < chris_99> yeah that's very expensive, as i've seen 10x for $200
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04:28 < F7> I seem to remember something about jury rigging AFM probes by repeatedly slow dipping fine tungsten wire
04:28 < F7> like making a tallow candle, only instead of a candle it's a shank for ants
04:30 < F7> er, slow dipping in hydrofluoric acid IIRC, I'm trying to find a reference
04:30 < F7> also might be a good way to recycle busted probes
04:32 < chris_99> i've seen you can create a very fine tip doing that, but would that work for AFM, as would the tungsten wire itself be able to reflect the laser decently, as it won't be rectangular like normal probes?
04:33 < chris_99> https://siliconpr0n.org/wiki/doku.php?id=tutorial:tutorial_on_etching_tungsten_probes
04:34 < F7> I think I'm confusing with STM probes
04:34 < chris_99> ah yeah possbily
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04:37 < F7> yeah, STM would have an exponential dependence of tunneling current on the tip-sample distance, so the tip structure doesn't really matter, so long as it's pointy. Contact AFM oscillates over the sample, and uses lasers for feedback, so the effect is linear.
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04:40 < F7> also explains why the tips are so disposable. it's like trying to mill corn with stilettos
04:41 < chris_99> hehe
04:42 < chris_99> theres different types of afm probes though, i think the tapping mode ones last longer iirc
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05:13 < clandestine> https://siliconpr0n.org/wiki/doku.php?id=tutorial:tutorial_on_etching_tungsten_probes good paper
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10:18 < kanzure> "Oisin Biotechnology, which has been working since late 2014 on a different approach to clearing senescent cells. They were funded by the Methuselah Foundation and SENS Research Foundation"
10:19 < kanzure> "Unity is developing “senolytic” medicines, which target vulnerabilities unique to senescent cells, allowing them to clear those cells from the human body while leaving normal cells unaffected. Venture capital investors include ARCH Venture Partners, Venrock, and Chinese WuXi. Judy Campisi, founder, has been a speaker at a GRG meeting."
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11:52 < delinquentme> how make: nanoscale frictionless planar surfaces ?
11:55 < chris_99> delinquentme, have you got any images from your STMs yet out of interest?
11:55 < delinquentme> chris_99: yarp
11:55 < delinquentme> scans at 1um 400nm and 100nm
11:56 < delinquentme> waiting to mount new surfaces of HOPG which will tell us if we can get to atomic resolution ~10nm
11:56 < chris_99> are they online? the images on that guys site of HOPG look amazing
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12:00 < delinquentme> our images arent online :D  but if you shoot me an email I can send some
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12:01 < chris_99> cool cheers, can you PM me your email
12:03 < delinquentme> im on a weird client idk if the message went through
12:03 < delinquentme> best PM me
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12:08 < kanzure> hydrophobic surfaces tend to be low friction
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14:11 < chris_99> .title http://gfycat.com/MindlessFragrantIvorybilledwoodpecker
14:11 < yoleaux> See current (heat) on PCBs with an UV flashlight - Gfycat
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15:22 < nmz787_i> chris_99: I wonder if that's real
15:23 < chris_99> https://www.reddit.com/r/electronics/comments/43zw0d/see_current_actually_the_resulting_heat_on_a_pcb/ -- hmm, i think is
15:24 < chris_99> i want to make a silly display out of it
15:29 < nmz787_i> "changes fluorescent properties of the solder mask"
15:29 < nmz787_i> dang, I hoped for a second it was some sort of heterodyning
15:30 < nmz787_i> hmm, now I wonder if you coupled that with the eulerian detection...
15:31 < nmz787_i> with a rolling shutter camera... side channel attack?
15:32 < chris_99> 1. Open up your laptop / desktop 2. shine UV light on motherboards memory bus 3. ???? 4. profit ;)
15:33 < nmz787_i> yep... 3 can be write a talk that overemphasizes the importance of your work... then 4 works when you go give that talk at Black Hat
15:34 < chris_99> heh
15:36 < chris_99> i was reading something on SO recently, possbily relating to heterodyning, wonder if you've heard of this, if you have two laser beams, with differing wavelengths, and shine on the same point, you get a resulting pulsing frequency that is detectable with a photodiode or whatnot
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17:34 < Jawmare> when recombining DNA, you first cut with restriction enzyme, then you join the ends with DNA ligase, then you anneal it right?
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18:44 < fenn> jawmare annealing means when two single strands come together to form double stranded dna. so it should be: cut, anneal, ligate
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18:44 < fenn> the overlapping single strands share the same restriction enzyme sequence, so they will stick together
18:46 < xentrac_> I think that to get optical heterodyning, you need a nonlinear mixing step.  which is doable, but it's not just a matter of shining on the same point; you need significant optical nonlinearity at that point
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21:43 < kanzure> since universal psychometric testing of intelligence seems to be a dead end, how about universal psychometric testing of stupidity
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23:39 < JayDugger> Universal psychometric testing of stupidity would have to deal with the problem of no false positives.
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