--- Log opened Wed Feb 10 00:00:22 2016 --- Day changed Wed Feb 10 2016 00:00 -!- Darius [~quassel@cpe-158-222-160-123.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:14 -!- a0a95251 [~a0a95251@45.119.154.109] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:14 -!- a0a95251 [~a0a95251@45.119.154.109] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:20 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:22 -!- Darius [~quassel@cpe-158-222-160-123.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:30 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qcxdhrrktpqzrftm] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 00:45 < nsh> what's a few V between besties 00:47 -!- jenelizabeth [~jenelizab@cpc76810-brmb10-2-0-cust1337.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:44 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:44 < archels> switching 60A? that's a beefy load 02:13 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fujhcxgdvmajkjpf] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:15 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:19 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:31 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@ejm98.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:01 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@ejm98.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:00 -!- Gurkenglas_ [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:07 -!- jtimon [~quassel@126.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:09 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@ejm98.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:38 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-56-42-180.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:55 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:01 -!- cpopell6 [~cpopell@209.48.69.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:02 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-56-42-180.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:07 -!- cpopell6 [~cpopell@209.48.69.2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:27 -!- _Sol_ [~Sol@c-69-141-24-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:28 -!- _Sol_ [~Sol@c-69-141-24-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:36 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@ejm98.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:57 < kanzure> ugh https://www.technologyreview.com/s/600774/top-us-intelligence-official-calls-gene-editing-a-wmd-threat/ 06:58 -!- nmz787_i [ntmccork@nat/intel/x-iecbmbwayqzqofot] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:59 -!- nmz787_i [ntmccork@nat/intel/x-iecbmbwayqzqofot] has quit [Client Quit] 07:10 < cluckj> lol 07:12 < archels> that box on the top left makes me feel like this is a game of Cards Against Humanity 07:12 < archels> the headline probably contributes, too 07:14 < chris_99> heh 07:14 < yoleaux> 06:35Z chris_99: Vc would seem to be Voltage-at-collector, which would be 12, not 3.3 07:14 -!- |node [uid125132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wszcbpziyunujyuy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:15 < archels> oh, yeah, the transistor circuit 07:15 < archels> chris_99: so you're switching a 60A @ 12V load? that's pretty whopping 07:18 < chris_99> sorry i may have poorly explained it, the 12V is wrong actually. I only need to output 5A across a PCB trace, i've done some more calculations on the bottom of https://github.com/anfractuosity/pcbdisplay it's 5A @ ~1.21V I posted on reddit yesterday, and from what they mention the MCU wouldn't actually provide the current needed to get 5A from the transistor i was looking at (they mentioned something like a darlington pair). 07:18 < chris_99> But someone else mentioned a MOSFET you can drive from a logic level of 3.3V 07:19 < archels> that's possible, but logic-level MOSFETs are considerably more expensive and generally have worse performance 07:19 < chris_99> http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/136097.pdf is the one they suggested 07:19 < archels> it's easy to make a little buffer circuit to switch the FET with 12V, then you can get cheapo IRFZ44 or so 07:20 < chris_99> http://uk.farnell.com/international-rectifier/irf3708pbf/mosfet-n-30v-62a-to-220/dp/8648158 is only £0.63 in the quantities i need though. What would be the advantage of a buffer over a logic level one? 07:21 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:21 < archels> ah, well if you can get away with using a logic-level FET then run with it. greater simplicity 07:23 < chris_99> yeah that's the thing i was thinking, it would save on extra components. The thing i'm slightly unsure about is the resistors, as from what i understand, as they're voltage rather than current dependant, maybe i could get away without one? although i read something about 'ringing' - http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/68748/question-about-mosfet-gate-resistor 07:24 < archels> yeah, put a 33 to 100 Ohm resistor in series with the gate 07:24 < chris_99> what do you think about the pull-down resistor? 07:25 < archels> and a pulldown resistor (don't rely on your MCU to keep the gate lines low) 07:25 < chris_99> aha ok, cheers! 07:35 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qrixtjfaimutglmv] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:37 -!- Gurkenglas_ [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:46 -!- Gurkenglas_ [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:00 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@egw219.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:14 -!- irseeyou [~irseeyou@c-67-168-101-20.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:16 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone. 08:17 < kanzure> everyone hates on weapons of mass destruction; i think there should be a support group. 08:17 < kanzure> without a support group, who are you going to call when you run into a wmd? 08:17 < JayDugger> I'm all for it. Weekend shoots just to stay in practice. 08:17 < kanzure> right, an untested process is a broken process, and all that 08:18 < JayDugger> Let's see...we could do theme detonations, or just save it all for July 4th, and do the 1812 Overture with Davy Crockett rounds vice cannon. 08:19 < JayDugger> But that's unfair to WMDs other than atomic explosives. 08:19 < JayDugger> We'd need a SIG or two for chemcial and biological. 08:20 < JayDugger> (I can say that here, right? We're on speaking terms with the FBI this week?) 08:20 < kanzure> yea it's cool 08:20 < JayDugger> (Hi Feds!) 08:20 < kanzure> my deal with them was only re: reporting people with unhealthy chickenshit/egg kinks coming on to irc 08:20 < JayDugger> I'll just misspell them on purpose in case they don't use a more sophisticated monitor. 08:21 < JayDugger> Eueww... 08:21 < kanzure> well it was because eggs are a wmd or something 08:21 < kanzure> i forget the details 08:21 < JayDugger> There's a pun somewhere in this about a NEST knocking at my door, but I am too tired to make the joke work. 08:22 < kanzure> i think that nectome would be better off focusing on brain simulation and emulation, rather than promising high-fidelity human brain uploading 08:22 < kanzure> there is more money in replacing large chunks of the labor force compared to the money in rescuing people from old age healthcare costs 08:22 < JayDugger> Nectome? The group from the winner of the Small Mammal prize? 08:23 < kanzure> plus on the way to working human brain uploading and emulation you're going to have working human brain "prototype" software anyway, which is essentially ai or agi or whatever 08:23 < JayDugger> I feel more sympathy for the latter than the former, but you're probably right. 08:23 < kanzure> the resolution or fidelity of initial uploading is going to be somewhat pathetic compared to what everyone is hoping 08:23 < kanzure> so you're basically going to end up with not-quite-human agi anyway 08:24 < kanzure> better to spin it like that rather than overpromise about human uploading 08:24 < JayDugger> Yeah, the whole "Is an emulation me?" is oversold compared to "is an emulation a draft animal?" 08:24 < kanzure> otherwise you will get all sorts of boring cultural artifacts resulting from that, like "frankenstein's zombie" but even more boring and more mundane 08:24 < cluckj> like "should an AI pay taxes?" 08:24 < JayDugger> That went past me. Let me think about it for a bit. 08:25 < kanzure> cluckj: if not, the company running the agi would definitely have to pay taxes 08:25 < JayDugger> More likely the latter. 08:25 < JayDugger> Horses drawing carts didn't pay taxes. Their owners did. 08:25 < cluckj> would the agi need to get healthcare under the ACA or face a penalty? 08:25 < kanzure> JayDugger: "frankenstein's monster" was a story about reanimation and it was boring and obvious in a bunch of places. they will say the same thing about uploads ("omg it's only 1% of a preson~~~~") and we will have to endure the cringe for 20-40 years and it will be awful. 08:25 < JayDugger> We will probably have machines smart as horses before machines as smart as men. 08:26 < JayDugger> The speculation about horse-smart isn't as much fun. 08:26 < kanzure> cluckj: thankfully human history has shown that we're perfectly willing to classify unique things as non-human, so my guess would be no :) 08:26 < kanzure> cluckj: although you could ask the same question about autonomous self-driving cars :D 08:26 < cluckj> and actual humans as non-humans too 08:26 < kanzure> "do autonomous cars have to join organ donation programs?" 08:26 < cluckj> we don't have a good track record at this 08:27 < JayDugger> Yes! and they should be scored and rewarded for how many organ donors each automonous car delivers to the hospital. 08:27 < cluckj> do autonomous cars need to pay for their own insurance? 08:27 < JayDugger> Yes! out of the finder's fees for delivering organs ready for donation. 08:27 < kanzure> well i was more thinking along the lines of autonomous cars donating their own parts in the event of an accident, but deliverance of organs to hospitals sounds like it could work too 08:28 < cluckj> will autonomous cars be considered employees, property, or "independent contractors" under labor laws? 08:28 -!- cpopell6 [~cpopell@209.48.69.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:28 -!- zadock [~outsider@81.180.208.252] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:28 < JayDugger> I was thinking more along the lines of encouraging the right kinds of accidents to arrange organ donations. But I think y'all are treated the subject with more seriousness. 08:29 < JayDugger> I'm to bed. I can't even type straight. Good night. 08:29 < cluckj> I have literally asked zero serious questions 08:30 < cluckj> or rather I have asked literally zero serious questions 08:30 < cluckj> whatever 08:33 < JayDugger> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24508152 08:36 < JayDugger> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3677127/ 08:36 < JayDugger> Fun project for later... 08:49 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@egw219.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:59 -!- jdqx [~jdqx@2602:306:cc94:1950:ecb4:62e:43f4:e41] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:01 -!- cpopell6 [~cpopell@209.48.69.2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:02 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:10 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fujhcxgdvmajkjpf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 09:22 < catern> hey, kanzure, you're a cool cypherpunk, do you know any papers or articles about the use of digital currencies in accounting for network resources at a per-packet level? 09:24 < kanzure> catern: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bitcoin/ 09:24 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.137.75] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:24 < catern> oh boy 09:27 -!- DiabloD3 [~diablo@exelion.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:28 -!- DiabloD3 [~diablo@exelion.net] has quit [Client Quit] 09:32 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.137.75] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 09:36 -!- Gurkenglas_ is now known as Gurkenglas 09:39 < catern> i don't know if any of these actually are what i'm looking for but i guess i should use grep 09:44 -!- diginet [~diginet@107.170.146.29] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving"] 09:50 -!- cpopell6 [~cpopell@209.48.69.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:02 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:04 -!- cpopell6 [~cpopell@209.48.69.2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:06 -!- adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:06 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@38.121.165.30] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:06 < kanzure> bsm117532: welcome. 10:07 < bsm117532> Neat 10:07 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:07 < bsm117532> Hahaa there's a lot of overlap between the people here and #bitcoin-wizards ;-) 10:08 < kanzure> yea all of the bitcoiners are immortalists 10:08 < adlai> "Strangely, sorting by log size per day returns relatively high-signal content" << why 'strangely'? 10:08 < kanzure> it's one of those "open secrets" 10:09 < kanzure> adlai: because size shouldn't have anything to do with signal-noise ratio 10:09 < kanzure> adlai: it's a ridiculous correlation 10:09 < bsm117532> kanzure: Huh? large log size means discussion, and presumably, signal, no? 10:09 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@egw219.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:09 < adlai> it makes sense if people pitch in when they see high-signal discussion, and opt out rather than enflame trolls or just idle chatter 10:10 < kanzure> you're welcome to remove the statement, it's a wiki after all 10:10 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:10 * adlai doesn't think he has an account? and either the correlation is strange, or the strangeness, so the statement should remain 10:11 < adlai> buh: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/bitcoin/big-pile/ 10:11 < adlai> that needs a few man-years of constructive mania curation 10:12 < kanzure> jgarzik asked me to release that content somewhere "release early release often" 10:12 < kanzure> actually that file was the result of me spending a week before scalingbitcoin montreal reading all forum posts and all bitcoin-dev email traffic 10:12 < adlai> what's the first token in the links? 10:12 * bsm117532 raids his mail archives for the Transhumanism mailing list... 10:13 < kanzure> jotmuch slug https://github.com/davidlazar/jotmuch 10:13 < kanzure> bsm117532: i have the mailing list archives over here http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/extropians/ and http://extropians.weidai.com/ 10:14 < adlai> kanzure: thank you. somebody linked me to this thing before but i never paid much attention... will leave tab open ^_^ 10:14 * adlai meanwhile goes teach humans go, before it becomes another worthless pastime 10:14 -!- Pathseeker [~Pathseeke@176.7.88.21] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:15 < kanzure> https://embracepith.wordpress.com/2015/09/11/on-gell-mann-amnesia-effect-or-how-crichton-pens-more-than-a-novel/ 10:16 < kanzure> http://isearch.nhtsa.gov/files/Google%20--%20compiled%20response%20to%2012%20Nov%20%2015%20interp%20request%20--%204%20Feb%2016%20final.htm 10:19 -!- Pathseeker [~Pathseeke@176.7.88.21] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:20 < catern> what would have seemed more likely in retrospect to me is not a digital currency eventually being used for paying for packets, but rather network resource accounting methods eventually being used as a digital currency 10:20 < catern> kanzure: is there a better channel than this for discussion of cypherpunk-ish-things 10:24 < kanzure> bitcoin-wizards is better for cryptocurrency theoretical speculation, this channel is pretty good for extropian content 10:25 -!- Pathseeker [~Pathseeke@176.0.67.17] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:25 -!- cpopell6 [~cpopell@209.48.69.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:29 < catern> what exactly is "extropian content", then? 10:29 < catern> does what i've brought up fall into the case of extropian content or cryptocurrency theoretical speculation? 10:30 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:31 -!- irseeyou [~irseeyou@c-67-168-101-20.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:32 -!- cpopell6 [~cpopell@wsip-174-77-158-26.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:48 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@195.114.251.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:59 -!- andares [~andares@unaffiliated/jacco] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:03 -!- esmerelda [~andares@unaffiliated/jacco] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:11 -!- |node [uid125132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wszcbpziyunujyuy] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 11:20 -!- andares [~andares@unaffiliated/jacco] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:21 -!- esmerelda [~andares@2607:fb90:80be:27fe:d8e5:3fa5:3b44:f575] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:21 -!- esmerelda [~andares@2607:fb90:80be:27fe:d8e5:3fa5:3b44:f575] has quit [Changing host] 11:21 -!- esmerelda [~andares@unaffiliated/jacco] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:22 < kanzure> catern: that's a good question; in my experience, the -wizards folks are much better at privacy tech than the folks in here. 11:26 -!- zadock [~outsider@81.180.208.252] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:32 < kanzure> brain connectivity matrices http://umcd.humanconnectomeproject.org/ 11:33 < kanzure> .wik DLG4 11:33 < yoleaux> "PSD-95 (postsynaptic density protein 95) also known as SAP-90 (synapse-associated protein 90) is a protein that in humans is encoded by the DLG4 (disks large homolog 4) gene." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DLG4 11:34 < kanzure> "PSD-95 is a member of the membrane-associated guanylate kinase (MAGUK) family. With PSD-93 it is recruited into the same NMDA receptor and potassium channel clusters. These two MAGUK proteins may interact at postsynaptic sites to form a multimeric scaffold for the clustering of receptors, ion channels, and associated signaling proteins.[1] PSD-95 is the best studied member of the MAGUK-family of PDZ domain-containing proteins. Like all ... 11:34 < kanzure> ... MAGUK-family proteins, its basic structure includes three PDZ domains, an SH3 domain, and a guanylate kinase-like domain (GK) connected by disordered linker regions. It is almost exclusively located in the post synaptic density of neurons,[4] and is involved in anchoring synaptic proteins. Its direct and indirect binding partners include neuroligin, NMDA receptors, AMPA receptors, and potassium channels.[5] It plays an important role ... 11:34 < kanzure> ... in synaptic plasticity and the stabilization of synaptic changes during long-term potentiation.[6]" 11:35 < kanzure> "[gephyrin] is a neuronal assembly protein that anchors inhibitory neurotransmitter receptors to the postsynaptic cytoskeleton via high affinity binding to a receptor subunit domain and tubulin dimers." 11:37 < kanzure> "Recently, a novel approach based on recombinant fibronectin intrabodies generated by mRNA display (FingRs) has been introduced for use in tissue culture and in mouse brain slices7. FingRs are antibody-like proteins that have been selected to target endogenous synaptic proteins including postsynaptic density 95 (PSD-95) and Gephyrin (GPHN). PSD-95 is a scaffolding protein localized to the postsynaptic density of excitatory synapses8, and ... 11:37 < kanzure> ... GPHN is a component of the postsynaptic protein network of inhibitory synapses9. FingRs have several advantages over current methods: they are recombinant and can be expressed in cell types of interest; they can be fused to a fluorophore to permit visualization of synapses in vivo; and finally, they have an auto-feedback mechanism to limit overexpression that could affect synapse properties as well as obscure precise imaging. " 11:37 < kanzure> from http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4700522/ 11:40 < kanzure> optogenetic fusion proteins ("luminopsins") (something about fusing channelrhodopsins with luciferase?) http://www.pnas.org/content/113/3/E358.full 11:40 < kanzure> not really sure what to do with that one 11:48 -!- augur [~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 12:01 < kanzure> aldehyde vitrification on hacker news too https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11070528 12:02 < kanzure> scihub and libgen stuff too https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11070192 12:18 -!- augur [~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:19 -!- irseeyou [~irseeyou@c-67-168-101-20.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:25 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@egw219.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:48 < kanzure> http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2016/01/29/how-can-you-protect-a-brain-by-destroying-it/ 12:56 < archels> any good comments? 12:56 < archels> also why is everybody always so down on capitalism 12:57 < archels> oh wait the comments section isn't actually longer than the article. 13:10 < kanzure> it's because capitalism doesn't have a PR team, duh 13:26 < archels> so given that the cell membranes stay perfectly intact, how about cell-bound proteins and vesicles? 13:27 < archels> post-synaptic densities? 13:28 < kanzure> i think that vacuoles and vesicles might be intact 13:28 < kanzure> or definitely in some of the variants of the CLARITY method 13:28 -!- Pathseeker [~Pathseeke@176.0.67.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:29 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@91.178.230.245] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:30 < archels> sequencing DNA/RNA is probably out 13:41 -!- souljack_ [souljack@shell.xshellz.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:44 -!- pasky_ [~pasky@nikam.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:48 -!- mf1008_ [~mf1008@unaffiliated/mf1008] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:48 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: 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looks to be a sudden, dramatic increase in the incidence of microcephaly (small brain/head size) in newborns." 19:17 < fenn> i guess a sudden dramatic increase in microcephaly isn't newsworthy on its own? 19:18 < kanzure> another article said that there is no microcephaly from zika virus :( 19:20 -!- Jenda` [~boch@dekatron.hrach.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:20 -!- Jenda` [~boch@dekatron.hrach.eu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:21 < xentrac_> fenn: yes, it was, before Zika was identified as a candidate 19:46 -!- Filosofem [~Jawmare@unaffiliated/jawmare] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:46 -!- Jawmare [~Jawmare@unaffiliated/jawmare] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:48 -!- justanot1eruser is now known as justanotheruser 20:23 -!- jdqx [~jdqx@2602:306:cc94:1950:44f0:eb3f:2e11:67bf] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:06 -!- |node [uid125132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wbbrlhskuyndvicc] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:11 -!- AmbulatoryC0rtex 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