--- Log opened Sun Mar 13 00:00:58 2016 00:54 -!- wrldpcmbl [uid145438@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ppdagwrjzehsnurr] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 01:10 < archels_> OK, AI isn't going to take over the world just yet 01:10 < archels_> (Seedol wins game 3 against AlphaGo) 01:11 < Mori4rty> If you can stand (or like) slack, there is transhumanist discussion event thingy happening in ~50mins from now: https://plus.google.com/+DavidWood_dw2/posts/ar25ZnFn25r 01:13 < Mori4rty> PM me an email if you want invite, or mail info@transhumanism.com.au 01:58 -!- T0BI [~ObitO@41.101.165.174] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:58 -!- T0BI [~ObitO@41.101.162.171] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:21 -!- Reventlov [~Reventlov@unaffiliated/reventlov] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:22 -!- Reventlov [~Reventlov@unaffiliated/reventlov] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:27 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:28 < pasky> archels_: (game 4) 04:31 < kanzure> Mori4rty: that's not really enough information to go off 04:31 < kanzure> *to go off of 04:34 < Mori4rty> kanzure: Hmmm? What do you wish to know? 04:35 < Mori4rty> It's like here, but in slack, I guess. And less science/hardcore research focused, so you might not be interested. Just your standard trans-humanist affair.. 04:38 < kanzure> sonds like a honeypot. 04:38 < kanzure> *sounds 04:38 < Mori4rty> It's not sticky .... or a trap... soooo ? 04:38 < kanzure> well if all the unproductive people get trapped there, then yes it's a honeypot 04:42 < Mori4rty> ahh. OK. Yes, you have a point, but I think people can decide for themselves who they work with and how best to spend their time productively. I do appreciate you wanting to babysit your troops though, and you're probably doing the right thing. In fact I almost didn't mention it cos I thought to myself 'Kanzure is gonna bitch about it somehow and act all superior' (which you are entitled to do). But hey ho. 04:55 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@212.97.24.134] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.3] 04:58 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@212.97.24.134] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:04 < archels_> pasky: right, cheers 05:15 < fenn> i wonder who will win 05:18 < fenn> there really ought to be a robot arm putting the stones on the board 05:26 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-106-113-006.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:26 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@emo25.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:34 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-155-69.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:41 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@108.19.186.58] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:51 < kanzure> Mori4rty: you have a very strange definition of bitching :) 05:58 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rckneiojlxkgufwq] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:56 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@emo25.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:02 -!- Mori4rty [~smuxi@79-71-91-37.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:31 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-okgihpuibivqdkor] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:08 -!- jtimon [~quassel@35.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:02 < archels_> fenn: haha agreed 09:05 -!- T0BI [~ObitO@41.101.162.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:23 -!- T0BI [~ObitO@41.101.165.101] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:25 -!- Guest44000 [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:25 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@emo25.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:25 -!- maaku [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:26 -!- maaku is now known as Guest57207 09:34 -!- Guest57207 [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:35 -!- maaku_ [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:10 -!- sandeepkr_ [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:14 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:14 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-63-56.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:17 < maaku_> Hopefully Lee just doesn't do the same thing to score a win on the final match, but actually comes up with another strategy he thinks will work 10:17 < maaku_> The point is to learn things, not recover face 10:20 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rckneiojlxkgufwq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 10:21 < kanzure> does ec2 block torrenting? this is the worst thing ever. 10:21 < maaku_> ugh really? seedbox then 10:21 < kanzure> right well... that was the idea... 10:22 < kanzure> figured i would spind this morning in hotel lobby doing this 10:22 < kanzure> perhaps it is the trackers that are blocking aws ip addresses 10:22 < kanzure> *spend 10:22 < maaku_> I mean use one of the actual seedbox companies whose customers are torrenting movies and music and shit 10:23 < kanzure> there is a non-trivial amount of infrastructure that i have put into this 10:26 < kanzure> (see pm) 10:31 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@emo25.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:32 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:34 -!- maaku_ is now known as maaku 10:45 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@emo25.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:47 -!- T0BI [~ObitO@41.101.165.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:53 -!- sandeepkr__ [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:56 -!- T0BI [~ObitO@41.101.164.186] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:56 -!- sandeepkr_ [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:58 < pasky> I kind of like https://www.facebook.com/yudkowsky/posts/10154018209759228 even if I could point out a few particular misconceptions or errors 10:59 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@212.97.24.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:00 < pasky> maaku: Lee specifically requested to play black in the last game (he played white in the fourth), and the strategies intrinsically are quite different for the two colors (esp. in higher level play) 11:01 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-okgihpuibivqdkor] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 11:09 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:16 -!- Jawmare [~Jawmare@unaffiliated/jawmare] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:18 -!- T0BI [~ObitO@41.101.164.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:24 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:25 -!- T0BI [~ObitO@41.101.161.86] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:30 -!- Jawmare [~Jawmare@unaffiliated/jawmare] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:30 -!- T0BI [~ObitO@41.101.161.86] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:46 -!- irseeyou [~irseeyou@c-67-168-101-20.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:58 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ozyjzeprzqqwsihs] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:58 -!- sandeepkr__ [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:59 -!- sandeepkr__ [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:28 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:7520:85e9:adbf:b59b] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:29 -!- Mori4rty [~smuxi@79-71-91-37.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:34 -!- Proteus [~Proteus@unaffiliated/proteus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:36 -!- Burnin8 is now known as Burninate 12:57 -!- AmbulatoryC0rtex [~Ambulator@173-31-155-69.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:00 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-155-69.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:01 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-106-113-006.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:02 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-155-69.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:05 -!- AmbulatoryC0rtex [~Ambulator@173-31-155-69.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:06 -!- AmbulatoryC0rtex [~Ambulator@173-31-155-69.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:08 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-155-69.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:13 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-63-56.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 13:36 -!- T0BI [~ObitO@41.101.165.146] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:38 < FourFire> > grindhouse is awful for totally unrelated awful reasons 13:38 < FourFire> could you elaborate on that? 13:39 < FourFire> > kanzure> cluckj: inriguingly, there is a group of transhumanists claiming they are in fact in charge of transhumanism, i think his name is loremaster and he refuses to let others edit the transhumanism wikipedia article 13:39 < FourFire> Introduce Deku-Shrub to him? 13:40 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@emo25.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:11 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ozyjzeprzqqwsihs] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 14:14 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-106-113-006.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:52 -!- sandeepkr__ [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:52 -!- sandeepkr__ [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:55 < FourFire> > would it surprise you to hear that i don't believe in consciousness? 14:56 < FourFire> Heh, that's one of the first thing I said to people at the LW meetup I hosted which casued an interesting response 15:00 < Mori4rty> What does it mean? I thought it was just a word to describe a 'feeling/sensation' I have .. (sometimes!) 15:01 -!- sandeepkr__ [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:01 -!- sandeepkr__ [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:01 < FourFire> > usually i would pipe up and say wakefulness right about now, but unfortunately i have found that i can type in my sleep 15:02 < FourFire> how, what are the results like? 15:11 < Mori4rty> That explains a lot. 15:17 -!- wrldpcmbl [uid145438@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-evfyapvdnqzkthoo] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:20 -!- maaku [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:20 -!- Reventlov [~Reventlov@unaffiliated/reventlov] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:21 -!- Reventlov [~Reventlov@unaffiliated/reventlov] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:22 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-txttkpubenfqzbiy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:00 -!- integer [792ce088@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.44.224.136] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:01 -!- integer is now known as real-integers 17:02 -!- maaku [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:03 -!- maaku is now known as Guest23548 17:03 -!- Guest23548 is now known as maaku 17:11 < kanzure> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/13/opinion/sunday/should-all-research-papers-be-free.html 17:24 -!- wrldpcmbl [uid145438@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-evfyapvdnqzkthoo] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:52 -!- real-integers [792ce088@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.44.224.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:37 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:38 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:51 -!- AmbulatoryC0rtex [~Ambulator@173-31-155-69.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:28 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11279903 19:28 < yoleaux> Should All Research Papers Be Free? | Hacker News 19:31 < cluckj> hack the planet. 19:32 < kanzure> way ahead of you 19:32 < kanzure> hack the supercluster 19:33 < cluckj> that is also okay with me 19:41 < kanzure> http://qntm.org/destro 19:45 < kanzure> "A dirty secret: at the time I'm writing this it is not possible, even in theory, for human beings to destroy the Earth. I do not have a plan for you because the technology is science fiction, and not even hard science fiction. There is no road map. And even if there were, the investment of time required is impossible." 19:46 < kanzure> i'm pretty sure this is not true 19:46 < kanzure> hah the coment left by gmaxwell is, "We do these things not because they are easy, but because they are hard." 19:55 < kanzure> *comment 19:58 < kanzure> there's really no consensus around whether planets are a good idea. keeping everything at the bottom of gravity wells is a stupid plan. (and at some point, things are just so broken that you might as well start over entirely.) 19:58 < kanzure> FourFire: i have discussed the results in hplusroadmap in the past 19:59 < kanzure> FourFire: results f "typing during sleep" were shared here http://gnusha.org/logs/2015-10-28.log 19:59 < kanzure> *results of 19:59 < kanzure> start reading near: 19:59 < kanzure> 07:18 < kanzure> IT WORKS 20:24 -!- irseeyou [~irseeyou@c-67-168-101-20.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:42 < pasky> is it fully established that all important biological *and* technological/manufacturing processes will work well in microgravity? 20:44 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-106-113-006.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:46 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-quxhpemvcyvnnszg] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:46 -!- johnfe [~johnfe@47.216.197.3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:47 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-224-62-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:47 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-145-169-161.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:49 -!- namespace [irssi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe89:ddeb] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:06 < pompolic> "there was a lot of apt-get update" 21:08 < johnfe> what r u updating? 21:09 < pompolic> reading this http://gnusha.org/logs/2015-10-28.log 21:12 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@212.97.24.134] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:16 < johnfe> jeez 21:21 -!- johnfe [~johnfe@47.216.197.3] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:41 -!- T0BI [~ObitO@41.101.165.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:55 -!- T0BI [~ObitO@41.101.165.146] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:34 -!- T0BI [~ObitO@41.101.165.146] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:41 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-txttkpubenfqzbiy] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 22:49 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:56 -!- T0BI [~ObitO@41.101.165.146] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:02 -!- sandeepkr__ [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:03 -!- sandeepkr__ [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:13 < FourFire> heh, kanzure are you still doing the sleep typing regularly? 23:13 < FourFire> Has the Signal/Noise ratio improved? 23:15 < namespace> Sleep typing? 23:20 < FourFire> Y 23:20 < FourFire> namespace, see http://gnusha.org/logs/2015-10-28.log 23:21 -!- jtimon [~quassel@35.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:22 < FourFire> oh, I recall that day, because the logs there contain doxworthy information: I was working at one of our clients, Neptune Properties (My dayjob is an IT technician) 23:51 -!- T0BI [~ObitO@41.101.165.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] --- Log closed Mon Mar 14 00:00:59 2016