--- Log opened Sat Apr 02 00:00:17 2016 00:09 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@222.185.62.81.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:16 -!- esmerelda [~andares@unaffiliated/jacco] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:28 -!- esmerelda is now known as mabel 00:39 -!- esmerelda [~mabel@unaffiliated/jacco] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:54 -!- nildicit_ [~nildicit@unaffiliated/nildicit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:57 -!- nildicit [~nildicit@unaffiliated/nildicit] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:06 -!- nildicit_ is now known as nildicit 01:33 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:46 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:05 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:12 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:18 -!- andreh [~andreh@177.18.24.140.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:21 -!- esmerelda [~mabel@unaffiliated/jacco] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:32 -!- jtimon [~quassel@227.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:04 < archels> "Each night the specific electrical impulses that generate the stream of consciousness stop and you are stored as physical structure! The connectome reboots the stream of consciousness each morning and identity continues." 05:04 < archels> what? no 05:04 < archels> .title http://jetpress.org/v26.1/cerullo.htm 05:04 < yoleaux> The Ethics of Exponential Life Extension through Brain Preservation 05:07 < archels> the technical references this chap gives are all fairly old 05:08 < archels> he complains about cyrogenics research being underfunded, which isn't hard to agree with, but surely things are moving in connectivity (pardon, connectomics) land 05:27 < archels> .gc "genetic.lottery" 05:27 < yoleaux> 247,000 (site), 20,000 (api) 06:01 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fdlkgbytcbceorse] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:07 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:10 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-106-113-006.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:27 < kanzure> strange pull request spam https://github.com/kanzure/pyscholar/pull/1 06:27 < archels> "[...] the human brain (unique in the known universe) within the human frame (a typically aging mammalian model) may be seen to be maladapted to each other: a bit like a jet engine mounted on a bicycle." 06:28 < kanzure> finally i can adopt my true identity as a jet engine or an attack helicopter, thanks 06:29 < archels> haha, somehow I am not surprised 06:34 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-155-69.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:39 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@24.187-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:39 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@24.187-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:06 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-106-113-006.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:09 -!- fleshtheworld- [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:b999:d57c:2602:45bb] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:16 -!- nildicit [~nildicit@unaffiliated/nildicit] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:34 -!- andreh [~andreh@177.18.24.140.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:37 -!- andreh [~andreh@177.18.24.140.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:56 < JayDugger> Better class of spam than "We'll pay you to write a review based on your GitHub activity" I got yesterday. 07:56 < JayDugger> I envy you your jet engine brain. 07:57 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:07 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:58 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-106-113-006.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:12 -!- andreh [~andreh@177.18.24.140.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:24 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-106-113-006.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:38 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:46 -!- nildicit [~nildicit@unaffiliated/nildicit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:48 -!- nildicit_ [~nildicit@unaffiliated/nildicit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:50 -!- nildicit_ [~nildicit@unaffiliated/nildicit] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:51 -!- nildicit [~nildicit@unaffiliated/nildicit] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:58 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@37.218.179.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:02 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@222.185.62.81.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:13 < nmz787> maaku: idk, I have a farmer friend, his 5 year old grew up on the farm (they homeschool their kids), and she works quite a lot (within what she can physically do, and within safety limits) 11:16 < streety> maybe you should try a rental first - perhaps you can pitch it as babysitting 11:18 < nmz787> nah, I don't feel comfortable establishing my own thought patterns in someone elses child... possibly destroying patterns they established 11:19 < nmz787> I'd be pissed if i had a kid I was training to be a certain way, and then some jerk came along disrupting things 11:20 < nmz787> now being that I am friends with this particular 5 year old... maybe our thought pattern establishment would be similar enough that I wouldn't be like a wrecking ball 11:20 < streety> indeed, assuming this friendship is reciprocal there is probably some overlap already 11:21 < nmz787> (friends with this particular 5-year old's parents) 11:21 < streety> yes, overlap of an overlap 11:22 < streety> what tasks are you hoping to delegate? 11:24 < nmz787> at the moment I am still waking up, so not too clear... but in general they'd be good at soldering things... I'd teach them basic biohacking sterile technique, how to use a schematics and layout CAD tool for circuit boards... even if they didn't understand circuitry, they could get good with the tool to layout traces (it is essentially drawing lines with minimal crossings) 11:25 < nmz787> I showed this 5 year old how to solder some basic stuff once or twice a year and a half ago... and she was good at it then, so I see no reason a small person couldn't learn to be decent enough technique-wise in a month or two 11:27 -!- andreh [~andreh@177.18.24.140.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:30 < streety> at that level I'm not sure thought patterns would be radically altered. That seems like something that becomes more important for creativity and problem solving. 11:31 < nmz787> yeah, but then I would have to rent their kid a lot, to get them well trained, and at that point I think the parents would be missing their kid 11:33 < streety> call it babysitting and charge them instead of paying them 11:34 < nmz787> idk, I don't think they've ever hired a babysitter before 11:35 < nmz787> they carry their infants on their back in a cloth sling/carrier when they're on the farm (as long as he isn't on a tractor or something loud/vibraty) 11:35 < nmz787> (or unless the infant wants to walk around and/or play with their bigger sister) 11:36 < streety> that might not work then. 12:01 < kanzure> does adoption still work for slave labor? 12:21 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:6869:201f:9b45:38de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:26 < nmz787> who knows the genetic proclivities of adopted children though, unless genetic testing for candidates isn't seen as rude 12:27 < nmz787> "which of these orphans might be the best at math, in the future?" 12:30 < nmz787> "research has shown that unmet or unrealistic expectations often play a role when adoptions fall apart" 12:40 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:40 < nmz787> .title http://stopchildlabor.org/?p=2311 12:40 < yoleaux> stopchildlabor | When a Family Business Violates Child Labor Laws 12:40 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ujtyydjhrzyffyqr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:43 < nmz787> "But the kids aren’t really working, right? Sorta. If a business benefits from your labor, then you’re working, even if you’re not paid, says Gary Pechie of the Department of Labor. In media reports, the Nuzzos admitted they benefited: Their children greet customers, bus tables and help out generally." 12:44 < nmz787> I have a feeling DIY science might not count then, if you aren't profitting (hey the kid isn't working on soldering that PCB, they're learning how to do a hobby) 12:46 < nmz787> """ “Kids clearing the table at home is one thing,” Schwartz says. “At a restaurant, it’s another. """ 12:46 < nmz787> well that clears it up, @home makes everything a-OK 12:46 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:46 < nmz787> 'hey Jr., hand me that 300kV supply cable from my hobby TEM' 12:48 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-160-170-217.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:48 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-221-130-233.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:52 < streety> what happens if you do eventually develop a product for sale or otherwise benefit? 12:58 < TMA> nmz787: I think it is still not reliably predictable what kind of child you get if you start producing your own. selecting from the stock of already existing might be cheaper and safer option just now. 13:36 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-106-113-006.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:38 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:39 -!- andytoshi 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