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01:25 < dbolser> hi
01:25 < dbolser> anyone looked at this type of thing:
01:25 < dbolser> http://optalysys.com/technology/
01:25 < dbolser> seems that for a tiny subset of functions, this could be a solution, but I'm not an expert in programmable holographic memory
01:26 < dbolser> i.e. I've no idea how much data you can get in and out of such a system and at what frequency you can change the state
01:27 < dbolser> http://optalysys.com/frequently-asked-questions/technical/
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02:07 < Studious> hi
02:18 < dbolser> ni
02:20 < Studious> whats this room allabout
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02:41 < dbolser> er..
02:41 < c0rw1n> > biohacking, nootropics, transhumanism, open hardware
02:41 < dbolser> biohacking, nootropics, transhumanism, open  hardware | sponsored by lobsters everywhere, banned by the Federal  Death Administration (5 times)
02:43 < dbolser> https://www.scribd.com/doc/308816109/Optalysys-White-Paper
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13:08 < nmz787_i> docl: http://www.murata.com/products/mechatronics/fluid/feature
13:10 < nmz787_i> docl: that STM project is a newer one, I hadn't seen it yet... pretty nice documentation on the high-performance (low-noise) section of the instrument... the guard pin stuff is something I've worried a lot about, so it is nice to see some practical results showing what you can get without the guard installed
13:11 < nmz787_i> lots of google scholar hits for piezo vacuum pump, including several patents
13:12 < nmz787_i> huh, this is quite like the Helium microscope, that just used the vapor-pressure of the compressed gas for imaging velocity: http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/journal/rsi/60/4/10.1063/1.1141006
13:12 < nmz787_i> .title
13:12 < yoleaux> A high‐intensity multi‐purpose piezoelectric pulsed molecular beam source
13:13 < nmz787_i> "The piezoelectric valve described in this paper is capable of covering nearly all options of a pulsed molecular beam source mentioned in the introduction. Though it is not "universal" in the sense that one modification can perfectly satisfy all these requirements, necessary changes are restricted to the nozzle plate and plunger. Its performance and the wide range of applications make the valve a unique tool for pulsed beam work."
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15:58 < docl> nmz787_i: cool, I hadn't realized there was such a thing as a helium ion microscope
15:59 < docl> an alternative to the disk piezo is multilayer ceramic capacitors: https://dberard.com/2015/08/16/mlcc-piezo-actuators/
15:59 < nmz787_i> someone on the hackaday ultrasound article mentioned trying caps that "screamed" at them sometimes during weird oscillations
16:03 < nmz787_i> docl: check this out, which is what I was thinking specifically of earlier: https://www.pdx.edu/nano-development-lab/neutral-atom-microscopy
16:03 < docl> huh, mlccs are really tiny. and cheap, you can get 10,000 of them for $20
16:03 < nmz787_i> " In particular, we have the world's first microscope to create images by gas reflection from the sample surface (scattering in free molecular flow)."
16:03 < nmz787_i> instead of secondary electron emission, they use a mass-spec and watch how many He ions make it to the mass-spec
16:04 < docl> intriguing!
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16:09 < docl> so the piezo valve is how they solved the problem of focusing neutral atoms, I take it?
16:10 < docl> or at least, a possible approach
16:33 < nmz787_i> umm, i think the PSU 'scope just uses vapor pressure
16:34 < nmz787_i> they have a tank of compressed gas, a needle/aperture facing a sample of interest in a zone of lower pressure (vacuum), and a mass-spec off to the side
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16:35 < nmz787_i> I'm sure we could demonstrate this concept on a larger scale with rubber super balls
16:36 < nmz787_i> and instead of a mass-spec, we'd just have an impact detector (piezo/strain gauge I guess)
16:37 < nmz787_i> but I'm not sure we could get high-grade super-balls for very-high resolution/reproducability...  but probably good enough for a rough demo
16:37 < nmz787_i> this would be a really fun science exhibit for kids at some museum...
16:38 < nmz787_i> (super balls == bouncy balls)
16:43 < streety> that really would be a very good museum exhibit
16:44 < nmz787_i> or maybe water droplets in a vertical chamber?
16:44 < nmz787_i> something more-reproducible for bouncy-effect than "rubber balls made for kids to throw at the ground for fun"
16:45 < nmz787_i> hmm, water will splash though
16:45 < nmz787_i> which is probably more of a tomography example, which is so complicated I can't even tell if that's correct or not on-the-fly
17:06 < streety> why do you think bouncy balls would be insufficiently reproducible?
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17:25 < nmz787_i> streety: oh, I'm just generally scared and bad at estimating signal-to-noise I guess
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17:26 < streety> underestimation is probably a good thing in most contexts
17:27 < streety> for an exhibit you can probably stack the deck sufficiently in your favor
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18:50 < juul> anyone know of a decent open source web-based plasmid viewer/editor component?
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20:22 < juul> http://www.dezeen.com/2016/04/13/ikea-sladda-lightweight-bicycle-low-maintenance-urban-riders/
20:23 < kanzure> juul: ask yashgaroth
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20:28 < yashgaroth> there's no decent web-based plasmid editors, and if you're set on open source ugene is pretty much the only one
20:33 < yashgaroth> here is a pile of files that claims to be a GPL equivalent to vectorNTI but I've never used it https://github.com/magnusmanske/gentle-m
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21:26 < juul> thanks!
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22:24 < nmz787> juul: https://github.com/Synbiota/GENtle2
22:25 < nmz787> this is pretty cool: http://pypenelope.sourceforge.net/
22:25 < nmz787> .title
22:25 < yoleaux> Welcome — pyPENELOPE
22:25 < nmz787> "What is PENELOPE? PENELOPE (Penetration and ENErgy LOss of Positrons and Electrons) is a a general-purpose Monte Carlo code system for the simulation of coupled electron-photon transport in arbitrary materials. PENELOPE covers the energy range from 1 GeV down to, nominally, 50 eV."
22:26 < nmz787> "What is PENEPMA? To facilitate the application of PENELOPE to microanalysis (EPMA), a dedicated main program called PENEPMA was written to perform simulation of x-ray spectra and calculates different quantities of interest. Photon interactions are simulated in chronological succession, allowing the calculation of x-ray fluorescence in complex geometries. PENEPMA makes extensive use of interaction forcing (a variance-reduction technique ...
22:26 < nmz787> ... which artificially increases the probability of occurrence of relevant interactions) to improve the efficiency."
22:27 < nmz787> juul: you can try it out here too: https://gentle.synbiota.com/
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23:05 < juul> nmz787: nice thanks :)
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