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The flag is, as you figured out, just setting the initial gcode. That's too bad about the 'zen garden', I'll look into it. 05:04 -!- jtimon [~quassel@79.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:08 -!- sandeepkr__ [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:11 -!- nildicit [~nildicit@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/nildicit] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:18 -!- sandeepkr__ [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:50 -!- hazirafel [~hazirafel@bzq-79-182-120-157.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:57 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:59 -!- sh [~sh@89.101.222.213] has quit [Disconnected by services] 06:00 -!- hazirafel [~hazirafel@bzq-79-182-120-157.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:00 -!- helleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:00 -!- hazirafel [~hazirafel@bzq-79-182-120-157.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:00 -!- jtimon [~quassel@79.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:01 -!- jtimon [~quassel@79.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:12 -!- hylleddin [~hylleddin@159.203.254.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:17 -!- hazirafel [~hazirafel@bzq-79-182-120-157.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:17 -!- hazirafel [~hazirafel@bzq-79-182-120-157.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:27 -!- hylleddin [~hylleddin@2604:a880:1:20::b2:d001] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:39 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hyI_dM5cGo 06:39 < yoleaux> The Voder - Homer Dudley (Bell Labs) 1939 - YouTube 06:42 < kanzure> ( from http://99percentinvisible.org/episode/vox-ex-machina/ ) 07:05 -!- c0rw|zZz is now known as c0rw1n 07:33 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@213.200.193.129] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:33 -!- hazirafel [~hazirafel@bzq-79-182-120-157.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:35 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:36 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:40 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@18.189.95.231] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:44 -!- hazirafel [~hazirafel@bzq-79-182-120-157.red.bezeqint.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:12 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@213.200.193.129] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:13 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:28 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@213.200.193.129] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:29 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-178-000-178-156.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:31 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@213.200.193.129] has quit [Client Quit] 08:54 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@18.189.95.231] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 08:55 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@108.19.186.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:17 -!- zadock [~outsider@81.180.208.252] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:19 -!- nmz787_i [ntmccork@nat/intel/x-lehnyjtvcmervotf] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:20 -!- nmz787_i [ntmccork@nat/intel/x-lehnyjtvcmervotf] has quit [Client Quit] 09:36 -!- zadock [~outsider@81.180.208.252] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:37 -!- nildicit [~nildicit@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/nildicit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:38 -!- nildicit_ [~nildicit@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/nildicit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:41 -!- nildicit [~nildicit@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/nildicit] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:49 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-42-40.dyn.mit.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:52 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:57 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-42-40.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 09:58 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@213.200.193.129] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:00 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-42-40.dyn.MIT.EDU] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:03 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:05 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-42-40.dyn.MIT.EDU] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 10:08 -!- hazirafel [~hazirafel@bzq-79-182-120-157.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:09 -!- jtimon [~quassel@79.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:29 < maaku> catern: I'm looking at this as well (more for my own voice capture) https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ripplebuds-world-s-1st-noise-blocking-earbuds#/ 10:40 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@139.117-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:41 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@139.117-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:42 -!- nmz787_i [ntmccork@nat/intel/x-exwkvvjfudbmdult] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:57 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:08 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-110-183.dyn.MIT.EDU] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:09 -!- nildicit_ is now known as nildicit 11:26 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@37.218.135.148] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:29 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:46 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:47 < maaku> .title http://research.google.com/pubs/pub45226.html 11:47 < yoleaux> GPUCC - An Open-Source GPGPU Compiler 12:01 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:10 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-110-183.dyn.MIT.EDU] has quit [Quit: wbraun] 12:11 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qywquqbvygykcsea] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 12:18 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@213.200.193.129] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:27 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11565056 12:27 < yoleaux> Storage Pod 6.0: Building a 60 Drive 480TB Storage Server | Hacker News 13:18 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:44 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@213.200.193.129] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:00 -!- c0rw1n_ [~c0rw1n@124.213-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:00 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@139.117-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:02 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@124.213-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:05 -!- c0rw1n_ [~c0rw1n@124.213-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:09 -!- c0rw1n_ [~c0rw1n@124.213-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:12 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@124.213-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:15 -!- sh [~sh@89.101.222.213] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:18 -!- c0rw1n_ is now known as c0rw1n 14:21 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:04 -!- Madars_ [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:17 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:21 -!- nildicit_ [~nildicit@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/nildicit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:25 -!- nildicit [~nildicit@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/nildicit] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:30 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bgtlwvderlkiuxvz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:50 -!- sandeepkr__ [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:56 -!- strangewarp_ [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:58 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:00 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:01 -!- Quashie_ [~boingredd@45.42.8.151] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:04 -!- Quashie [~boingredd@45.42.8.151] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:23 -!- jtimon [~quassel@79.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:04 -!- Madars_ [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:09 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@213.200.193.129] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:13 -!- jtimon [~quassel@79.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:09 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-110-183.dyn.mit.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:15 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-upvfcixyvvssrfqb] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:17 -!- jaboja64 [~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:17 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:20 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:21 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-178-000-178-156.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:24 < kanzure> beep bloop 18:25 < c0rw1n> boop bleep 18:45 -!- jaboja64 [~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:10 -!- nildicit__ [~nildicit@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/nildicit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:13 -!- nildicit_ [~nildicit@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/nildicit] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:15 -!- nildicit__ is now known as nildicit 19:17 < nmz787_i> /me foghorn 19:18 < kanzure> owe. don't do that. 19:24 < nmz787_i> we need a transliteration of the dialup modem initialization sound 19:36 < xentrac_> nmz787_i: have you seen windyoona's spectrographic visualization of it? 19:36 < xentrac_> .g windyoona modem sound 19:36 < yoleaux> http://www.windytan.com/2012/11/the-sound-of-dialup-pictured.html 19:36 < nmz787_i> checking now 19:40 -!- Darius [~quassel@cpe-158-222-160-123.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:57 < abetusk> nmz787_i, pushed a newer version that handles units better. Any luck with using gbl2ngc? 20:02 < abetusk> nmz787_i, I don't see what you're talking about with the 'zen garden' paths....do you mind providing an example gerber? 20:14 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:16 -!- netsin [~jiggalato@unaffiliated/jiggalator] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:16 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:17 -!- strangewarp_ [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:19 < nmz787_i> abetusk: I haven't tried any of your newer code, but with the code I was able to get working (I don't think there was an apparent error in the output, as far as I could tell) I did then write some code to massage the g-code a bit, and did laser a few things with the resultant g-code 20:19 < nmz787_i> abetusk: the zen garden thing could have been a g-code visualizer bug, I guess 20:19 < nmz787_i> I will try to reproduce later, when I get home 20:22 < abetusk> ok, thanks. Glad to hear you're using it. Let me know if you run into any more problems 20:30 < nmz787_i> abetusk: here's some output... which I scaled because I misread the output (it was showing some numbers in the 100s, but I know my laser only goes up to 30... so I wanted to ensure I could laser something without it jamming) (i found later that the coordinates needed translated one corner of their bounding box was at 0,0.... instead of wherever it was in the original file... something like 100,100) http://imgur.com/zrlWRDg 20:30 < nmz787_i> as you can see, my scaling actually made things BIGGER! 20:30 < nmz787_i> and also I need to flip things, somewhere 20:30 < nmz787_i> (I didn't laser that PCB, that's OSHPARK!) 20:33 -!- nmz787_i1 [~ntmccork@134.134.139.77] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:35 -!- nmz787_i [ntmccork@nat/intel/x-exwkvvjfudbmdult] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:36 < abetusk> nmz787_i1 (nmz787), cool. So it looks like you need to play with the intensity a bit but otherwise things look decent. You probably already know this but setting the radius lower will make the stripes finer. 20:36 < abetusk> and that mirroring and whatever else is annoying...I guess it'd be best to provide an option for that? 20:36 < abetusk> also maybe some translate, rotate operations? 20:36 < abetusk> maybe that's overkill 20:37 < abetusk> I got around this by writing some small tools to do simple operations on the gcode (mirror, scale, translate etc.) 20:41 < nmz787_i1> yeah I can do the mirroring easily.... that's like a abs(0-coord_val) or something, I think 20:41 < nmz787_i1> I think the paper is nonhomogenous, so that adds to the general ugliness of the etch 20:42 < nmz787_i1> I'm not sure the mirroring is your fault, or how gerbers are exported maybe? 20:42 < abetusk> interesting. You can also go over it in the other direction 20:42 < nmz787_i1> maybe they mirror things physically 20:42 < abetusk> hm, not sure. I always eyeball it so it wouldn't surprise me if I was just being sloppy 20:42 < nmz787_i1> i.e. flip over some transparency sheet after they print the gerbers 20:42 < nmz787_i1> ah 20:42 < nmz787_i1> ok 20:42 < nmz787_i1> hehe 20:43 < nmz787_i1> when you say radius, you mean in the gbr2ngc? 20:43 < nmz787_i1> or do you mean in my laser firmware (grbl)? 20:44 < abetusk> in gbl2ngc. presumably you got that striped pattern by specifying a '-r' (radius) option. gbl2ngc was 'meant' for a cnc so it offsets by the endmill radius (+ runout...) that you specify 20:45 < nmz787_i1> I guess for people who are less up to quick programming, or geometrical programming (I know some people just can't think visually, which I guess I am alright at, as far as CAD/image processing goes) 20:45 < abetusk> ah, so maybe that's what the zen garden thing you were seeing...it is larger than the original, by the radius specified 20:45 < nmz787_i1> they might appreciate the options 20:45 < nmz787_i1> I guess that makes sense... the laser does have a width 20:45 < abetusk> well, no need to add it unless it's actually wanted 20:46 < nmz787_i1> hmm 20:46 < nmz787_i1> I realized I couldn't get the in-fill without specifying a radius 20:46 < abetusk> yeah 20:46 < nmz787_i1> (that one took some playing with to realize) 20:46 < abetusk> I use the radius to inform how fine the infill should be 20:47 < nmz787_i1> not sure how hard arg parsing is for you (not sure if you're using a library to help)... but you could probably prevent those options unless radius is also specified 20:47 < nmz787_i1> or print a message "infill can 20:47 < abetusk> give a warning or error? 20:47 < nmz787_i1> can't be used without a radius' 20:47 < nmz787_i1> yeah, either... would've saved me 10 or 20 minutes, I think 20:48 < nmz787_i1> I was tracing through the code and adding print statements :P 20:48 < nmz787_i1> "doing zen" 20:48 < abetusk> ok, will do 20:48 < nmz787_i1> so if that took me 10 or 20... someone else might just give up 20:48 < nmz787_i1> hehe 20:48 < nmz787_i1> ok, leaving work now, whew 20:48 -!- nmz787_i1 [~ntmccork@134.134.139.77] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:52 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-upvfcixyvvssrfqb] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:03 < abetusk> nmz787, ok, updated and pushed. Let me know how it goes or if you run into any other problems 21:14 -!- Guest26370 [~dog@cpe-69-201-45-125.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:19 < nmz787> abetusk: thanks! I might not play with it again until later in the week or possibly next weekend... but I'll keep you updated! Glad you pointed me to it, I'm not sure how much [interesting] progress I'd have made this weekend without it 21:21 < abetusk> There are some other options but I remember having a little difficulty getting them working. Worst case you could have rastered but I'm glad this worked out for you. 21:21 < nmz787> at this point, I am concerned with burning and/or chemical fumes... and am thinking of whether I should install a fume hood in what is/was a food pantry... or if I should just take these smelly things to the garage (which is dusty and relatively unconditioned... so not very desirable for sensitive work) 21:21 < nmz787> abetusk: do you know of a gerber to g-code raster tool? 21:22 < nmz787> I mean, I didn't find anything interesting... and was on the path to learning how to parse (or use existing gerber parser libraries/code) the format and convert things myself 21:22 < nmz787> (which I didn't really want to do) 21:24 < abetusk> just googling around: https://github.com/305engineering/Inkscape http://nebarnix.com/img2gco/ https://github.com/joshbuddy/graster . I haven't used any of them 21:25 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:28 < nmz787> ah, i guess those aren't gerber specific, so probably why I didn't reel them in 21:29 -!- Guest26370 [~dog@cpe-69-201-45-125.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:29 < abetusk> The novelty of my tool is that it's gerber to gcode direct, it can do fill patterns and it's vector, not raster 21:29 < abetusk> I found a good gerber to gcode generator but the gcode produces had a lot of artifacts from first pixelating it then converting to a gcode file. 21:30 < abetusk> It was overkill and I could have just gotten away with using the tool but I made gbl2ngc anyway 21:30 < abetusk> There are definitely other options so you might want to look around 21:31 < nmz787> mmm, well artifacts are definitely something I don't want 21:56 -!- night is now known as Everyone 21:56 -!- Everyone is now known as night 22:23 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-158-23-246.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:23 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-147-133-18.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:39 -!- Darius [~quassel@cpe-158-222-160-123.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:58 -!- sandeepkr__ [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:00 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bgtlwvderlkiuxvz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 23:03 -!- juri_ [~juri@vpn166.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:34 -!- wbraun [~wbraun@dhcp-18-189-110-183.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: wbraun] --- Log closed Tue Apr 26 00:00:57 2016