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00:55 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=05b73fe3 herberenice:  >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/articles/
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05:44 < kanzure> jrayhawk: that was a spammer^... do we need to disable user registration? :\
05:44 < kanzure> argh wtf why is force-push disabled
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09:37 < nmz787_i> feeling pushy with git today, eh kanzure
09:37 < kanzure> don't want a spammer
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10:15 < nmz787_i> ;)
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14:02 < nmz787_i> sup
14:06 < jrayhawk> kanzure: force push is disabled because Ikiwiki has an independent checkout that it would merge into anyway.
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14:09 < kanzure> jrayhawk: can we fix the spammer's stuff
14:10 < jrayhawk> Yeah, I'm just trying to work out if it got past Google's captcha stuff.
14:13 < jrayhawk> Looks like it did.
14:14 < nmz787_i> hmm, these seem like hackerspaces... but they're not listed on hackerspaces.org (https://www.fablabs.io/labs)
14:15 < nmz787_i> there should be a captcha based on simpsons episode quotes or context of scenes or something
14:18 < jrayhawk> Anyway, the idiot-proof procedure is:
14:18 < jrayhawk> pinyconfig diyhpl.us piny.ikiwiki false
14:18 < jrayhawk> pinyconfig diyhpl.us receive.denynonfastforwards false
14:18 < jrayhawk> # push
14:18 < jrayhawk> pinyconfig diyhpl.us receive.denynonfastforwards true
14:18 < jrayhawk> pinyconfig diyhpl.us piny.ikiwiki true
14:19 < kanzure> haha
14:19 < kanzure> hahah
14:19 < kanzure> yeah you're doing that, not me
14:20 < kanzure> you can wonder about the meaning of your life while you execute those commands
14:20 < kanzure> just force-push the last non-spammed commit
14:22 < jrayhawk> er, s/diyhpl.us/diyhplus/
14:22 < jrayhawk> er, s/diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/
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14:26 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11591130
14:26 < yoleaux> Type III Societies (Apparently) Do Not Exist | Hacker News
14:26 < kanzure> .title http://arxiv.org/abs/1604.07844
14:26 < yoleaux> [1604.07844] Type III Societies (Apparently) Do Not Exist
14:28 < jrayhawk> was getting the repository name wrong what you were getting all passive-aggressive about, or am i missing something
14:29 < kanzure> i was asking you to force-push the thing before the spammer :)
14:29 < jrayhawk> well, okay, all that's done
14:29 < kanzure> wasn't being passive aggressive, was genuine laughter about the absuridty of many steps to fix this
14:29 < kanzure> thank you
14:30 < kanzure> but for future reference yes i'll just turn force-push back on
14:30 < jrayhawk> not that absurd; we worked hard to make immutability a front-and-center feature
14:30 < kanzure> how does this work if you have an active attacker trying to force-push even more spam?
14:30 < jrayhawk> 14:06 < jrayhawk> kanzure: force push is disabled because Ikiwiki has an independent checkout that it would merge into anyway.
14:31 < jrayhawk> so the answer is "approximately the same"
14:31 < kanzure> i guess the answer is "figure out their username and ban them first"
14:31 < kanzure> but they could also be rapidly registering
14:31 < kanzure> is there a pinyconfig stopthenewbiesplzkthx true/false?
14:31 < kanzure> to prevent registration
14:32 < jrayhawk> we can just switch over to exclusive ssh registration if it continues to be a problem
14:32 < kanzure> oh i thought we already did?
14:32 < kanzure> we changed something previously because spammers
14:32 < jrayhawk> briefly; then i added recaptcha
14:34 < kanzure> thanks
14:35 < jrayhawk> or a moderator queue of new accounts
14:35 < jrayhawk> which is more or less how fd.o works
14:35 < kanzure> i am also okay with people just asking for accounts, we don't seem to attract the type of user that wont contribute if they have to speak with us
14:36 < kanzure> or frankly anyone
14:36 < jrayhawk> hee
14:36 < kanzure> honestly i am not even sure why any of you put up with my antics
14:41 < c0rw1n> entertainment value ?
14:48 < jrayhawk> I also ran usermod -L herberenice
14:49 < kanzure> could we just remove them
14:50 < kanzure> possibly with rmmuserremover
14:50 < jrayhawk> Probably okay in this case, but not good practice in general. Has the potential for leaving dangling permissions.
14:53 < maaku> kanzure we have thick skin
14:54 < xentrac_> maaku: not everyone has thick skin
14:56 < maaku> xentrac_: unfortunately we probably are not an inviting environment for them
14:57 < kanzure> you mean not everyone wants to be burned alive?
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15:03 < xentrac_> maaku: it varies
15:06 < maaku> I think me of 5-10 years ago would have been pushed away.
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15:07 < maaku> Not sure if that is good or bad.
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15:13 < nmz787_i> kanzure: getting a tesla model 3
15:13 < nmz787_i> ?
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16:06 < kanzure> nmz787_i: nah just dropping off my car
16:06 < kanzure> wait what? i didn't say anything about that.
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16:23 < kanzure> bloort
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16:28 < c0rw1n> bleert
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17:15 < kanzure> https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/what-is-gitian-building-how-bitcoin-s-security-processes-became-a-model-for-the-open-source-community-1461862937
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20:01 < abetusk> http://arxiv.org/pdf/1604.07844v1.pdf
20:01 < abetusk> .title http://arxiv.org/pdf/1604.07844v1.pdf
20:01 < yoleaux> abetusk: Sorry, that doesn't appear to be an HTML page.
20:02 < abetusk> .title http://arxiv.org/abs/1604.07844
20:02 < yoleaux> [1604.07844] Type III Societies (Apparently) Do Not Exist
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22:23 < nmz787> kanzure: was just asking if you're gonna go for it, in general
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22:41 < maaku> i would have nowhere to plug it in...
22:42 < maaku> i would have said it's too expensive, except tesla cars have been appreciating in value, not depreciating
22:46 < drethelin> might be different for the model 3
22:47 < drethelin> which will be the most cheaply made and have the biggest production run
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23:00 < maaku> I imagine the early runs will retain collector value
23:00 < maaku> but there's 130k preorders already
23:03 < nmz787> drethelin: cheap as in price or quality?
23:03 < nmz787> i mean , yeah cheaper in price for sure
23:04 < nmz787> I have been getting sick of my VW jetta smoking on startup recently, it stinks and is more embarrasing than anything, at parking lots or around others in general. I have been looking into injector and fuel pump work...  but actually just got B99 a few days ago and the smoke smells fine
23:04 < nmz787> (B99 biodiesel)
23:05 < nmz787> but it would be pretty sweet to get a new car, period, and especially a what seems to be pretty sweet/fun newage-electric car
23:06 < nmz787> the diesel can be EMP-proofed with a TDI300 fuel pump though... the tesla would be screwed
23:06 < nmz787> though I can't recall any EMP blasts in my life
23:24 < JayDugger> EMP a serious concern for you?
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23:39 < nmz787> seems like a reasonable weakpoint for nefarious actors to target
23:39 < nmz787> sugar in the old diesel tank might do it to it though, too
23:39 < nmz787> JayDugger: also solar flares
23:39 < JayDugger> I agree on both points--all three points.
23:39 < nmz787> that is probably more concerning than some kind of bad person
23:40 < JayDugger> You might get better peace of mind return on your efforts if you kept a three-day supply of potable water.
23:40 < nmz787> it is a very perplexing problem for me...
23:40 < JayDugger> If you've already done basic things such as that, kudos!
23:40 < nmz787> well, I know some people up the street with a well
23:41 < nmz787> and I have a water filter for camping that also takes out chemicals and viruses
23:41 < nmz787> i probably have two gallons around here
23:41 < JayDugger> Remember to count your toliet tanks.
23:41 < nmz787> ah
23:41 < JayDugger> And possibly the hot water heater.
23:41 < nmz787> i was actually reading about drilling your own well last month
23:42 < nmz787> i've got ground water at like 16 ft
23:42 < JayDugger> Past my area of expertise, I'm afraid.
23:42 < nmz787> which would need filtered... but is otherwise fine for gardening/landscaping
23:42 < JayDugger> That's an advantage.
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