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01:54 < TMA> kanzure: aging is "conveniently" not labeled as a mortall illness (conveniently because aging related deaths are convenient for the social security system (or its equivalent elsewhere) which is in turn convenient for societal peace (the union movement has lost its traction after the New Deal, IIRC))
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03:16 < chris_99> .title http://livestream.com/internetsociety3/hopeconf/videos/130731041
03:16 < yoleaux> How to Torrent a Pharmaceut... on Livestream
03:17 < chris_99> thought that was interesting, i'd not heard of the reactors he mentions, where they add the chemicals at specific times for you
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05:21 < streety> the "computer-aided chemist" mentioned in that video appears to be http://chematica.net - anything similar that doesn't require licensing?
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07:16 < mz_o_> chris_99: thanks for posting that hope link. I'd missed that talk when i'd went
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07:25 < chris_99> mz_o_, looks like there were some cool talks
07:32 < mz_o_> Yea there were some good cs / infosec talks
07:32 < mz_o_> Id missed the biology for hackers talk
07:33 < mz_o_> and the dna + healthcare talk was a bait and switch talk
07:34 < mz_o_> But i had an interesting convo with her about public healthcare
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09:28 < kanzure> eifoqfiajfidjvadfqufhagfojairoiqeiooiwiewqiiii
09:35 < ebowden_> kanzure, do you have a cat?
09:35 < ebowden_> Because that keeps happening.
09:37 < chris_99> haha
09:43 < ebowden_> Maybe he's fat and his folds press down onto his laptop.
09:43 < ebowden_> (When he leans over.)
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09:46 < kanzure> cats can't get that fat before dying
09:48 < ebowden_> But you can.
09:48 < kanzure> true!
09:48 < kanzure> yeah i'm glad nobody has noticed that i keep inserting my password every morning
09:48 < chris_99> lol
09:49 < ebowden_> So, do you have a cat that tramples your keyboard, or you accidentally press on it with your folds?
09:49 < kanzure> it can't be frustration-induced random typing?
09:49 < ebowden_> *or do you accidentally
09:49 < ebowden_> It could be.
09:49 < ebowden_> Is it that?
09:49 < kanzure> how do you password
09:52 < kanzure> ebowden_: what have you been up to?
09:52 < ebowden_> I wonder if a biologist who says evolution is a lie and the YEC is legit is comparable to a histologist saying that smooth muscle and cardiac muscle are exactly the same.
09:52 < ebowden_> Not much, my thyroid was destroyed by a viral infection.
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10:08 < ebowden_> Decided to learn "Advanced Neuronal Physiology" and "Advanced Circulatory System Physiology" on Khan Academy.
10:10 < CaptHindsight> is there an app for cats to easily see pics or cats, mice, insects etc with just a paw swipe or press?
10:10 < CaptHindsight> or/of
10:12 < CaptHindsight> might be an untapped market
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10:15 < kanzure> researchgate emails you every time someone reads one of your papers O_o yeah that's totally not a privacy leak. wat.
10:15 < juul> wut. do they tell you who reads it?
10:17 < kanzure> "A researcher from Russia" and then it shows their profile pic
10:17 < juul> ok that's pretty bad
10:17 < juul> taking a queue from linkedin i guess
10:17 < kanzure> this is really dangerous
10:17 < kanzure> wtf
10:18 < kanzure> reverse image search found who owns that profile pic
10:18 < kanzure> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/271587800_Catacomb_culture_wagons_of_the_Eurasian_steppes
10:19 < kanzure> it's "Elmira Ibragimova"
10:19 < kanzure> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Elmira_Ibragimova
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10:20 < kanzure> "Allow others to see that you've read their research – and benefit by seeing who's been reading yours. [button]"
10:21 < juul> oh i see. it's opt in?
10:21 < kanzure> maybe it's some sort of opt-in thing. but apparently i see the data regardless of whether i've already opted in?
10:21 < kanzure> "and benefit by seeing who's been reading yours" well if i am already seeing that data, then how do i know it's not already violating the first clause too? ("allow others to see that you've read their research")
10:22 < juul> maybe it's a bug?
10:22 < juul> i've certainly never gotten such an email
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10:22 < juul> but then i don't have any CC-licensed research papers
10:22 < kanzure> juul: maybe i should tell researchgate about the virtues of https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia
10:23 < juul> :)
10:25  * juul is listening to Vint Cerf talk about Star Trek
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10:25 < kanzure> juul: buncha updates to the polymerase draft, would welcome feedback or TODO items
10:25 < juul> ok, i'll try to read the rest + the updates over the next few days
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10:27 < kanzure> juul: cool thanks. i think it would be most helpful to work on outlining, or next TODO steps that you feel are ideal for others to work on, or if you are feeling really adventurous then writing :D
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10:41 < juul> I am somewhat worried that everyone involved is too busy for something this time-consuming (the review) to be completed on a reasonable time-scale but even an informal or incomplete review/writeup would be useful to share widely
10:42 < juul> at least if we're talking in terms of a formal academic publishable review
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10:45 < kanzure> juul: oh i was thinking this would be something to put up on arxiv.org or something
10:45 < juul> ah ok :)
10:46 < kanzure> seems like a more reasonable goal to me
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13:51 < delinquentme> does anyone know what the mathematical basis / transformation which is applied to an image to beget the cel chading tecnique ?
13:52 < delinquentme> cel shading**
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13:58 < kanzure> no, but i would ask the opengl people
14:03 < maaku> It's just quantization
14:03 < maaku> Make lighting a binary threshold.
14:04 < delinquentme> im not looking to do rendering though
14:04 < delinquentme> just the lighting binary
14:04 < delinquentme> or at least ... binning
14:05 < maaku> Probabilistic of you want dithering
14:05 < maaku> *if
14:13 < delinquentme> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posterization
14:13 < delinquentme> not as technically named as i was hoping
14:13 < delinquentme> but it works
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17:05 < docl> http://nextbigfuture.com/2016/07/self-assembling-protein-nanostructures.html
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17:37 < docl> I wonder if it would be easier to start with binary DNA and assemble it to quaternary.
17:47 < docl> http://www.jbsdonline.com/binary-dna-tracts-can-serve-dna-unwinding-centers-p10317.html
17:47 < docl> Binary DNA tracts are DNA tracts composed of only two bases on any one of the complementary strands. Four combinations exist: R.Y: Purines (A,G) on one strand and pyrimidines (C,T) on the complimentary one; K.M: (G,T) on one strand and (A,C) on the other; W: (A,T) and S: (G,C), auto complementary between the strands.
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18:05 < streety> with regards researchgate I don't think I have opted in - I get a weekly email with the total number of reads including the profile pic of one of the readers.
18:06 < streety> Just one of the many emails they seem to send searching for engagement
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22:12 < kanzure> bloop
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