--- Log opened Tue Aug 02 00:00:14 2016
00:03 < nmz787> kanzure: nope, should I?
00:04 < nmz787> just skimmed it
00:04  * nmz787 sleeps
00:06 < kanzure> for someone so paranoid, you seem under-interested in crypto :)
00:12 < ebowden1> It would be hilarious to engineer animals for cryptozoologists to find.
00:15 < nmz787> kanzure: only so much 'RAM' so to say... I was reading this as far as crypto stuff recently, starting on pg 27 specifically: yurichev.com/tmp/SAT_SMT_DRAFT.pdf
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00:21 < maaku_> We can record sound, pictures, even tactile information. Where is the smelloscope and taste recorder?
00:22 < fenn> welp i didn't know this is possible: https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity14/technical-sessions/presentation/michalevsky
00:22 < fenn> .title
00:22 < yoleaux> Gyrophone: Recognizing Speech from Gyroscope Signals | USENIX
00:23 < kanzure> "We show that the MEMS gyroscopes found on modern smart phones are sufficiently sensitive to measure acoustic signals in the vicinity of the phone. The resulting signals contain only very low-frequency information (<200Hz). Nevertheless we show, using signal processing and machine learning, that this information is sufficient to identify speaker information and even parse speech. Since iOS and Android require no special permissions to ...
00:23 < kanzure> ... access the gyro, our results show that apps and active web content that cannot access the microphone can nevertheless eavesdrop on speech in the vicinity of the phone."
00:24 < fenn> maaku i think there's some potential for affinity binding array sensors
00:25 < fenn> you have an antibody or other binding molecule on the surface of a chip, and binding affects its interaction with the chip somehow, altering the resistance or light propagation which you can then measure
00:25 < kanzure> someone mentioned to me that ellington does a lot of military contracting work
00:25 < fenn> the problem would seem to be getting the different molecules on different parts of the chip
00:25 < kanzure> his aptamer sensor arrays are probably military sensory equipment stuff
00:25 < fenn> yes
00:26 < fenn> photo synthesized aptamers would be one way to do it
00:26 < fenn> a lot of "taste" information is texture
00:27 < fenn> i saw a tactile sensor based on a clear piece of gel and a webcam, but i think chewing qualia is more composed of lower frequency acoustic waves
00:29 < kanzure> mechanical factors too, like liquids and stress and material breakage
00:30 < fenn> can't sense that directly though
00:31 < fenn> looks like that sensor has been all patented up and productified already: http://sdk.rethinkrobotics.com/wiki/Baxter_Inserts_USB_Cables_With_GelSight_Sensing
00:31 < fenn> it's really just clear gel and some silver rubbery paint
00:32 < kanzure> should we hang out with juul before i leave
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00:40 < fenn> .title http://youtu.be/S7gXih4XS7A
00:40 < yoleaux> Sensing Surfaces with GelSight - YouTube
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05:29 < archels> .gc "speciesism"
05:29 < yoleaux> archels: Sorry, that command (.gc) crashed.
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08:24 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone.
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09:13 < kanzure> hmph
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09:23 < nmz787_i> lightning terminators "We are currently working with a group in a similar space.  If you could still use our terminators in a couple of months, please send me a note.  Depending on the status of the other work, we might be able to work with you then."
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10:06 < nmz787_i> sooo, basically nucleotide chemists are not going to be terribly helpful, so let's avoid them. protocol needs to be able to support going to get cells from a supermarket, lysing the hell out of them, centrifuging lightly to get rid of majority of gunk, separating natural nucleotides out, then separating each A G T C from themselves (or having a process that can handle a mix). Also Phosphorylase to re-energize the beat-down nucleotides.
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10:29 < CaptHindsight> nucleotide chemist, heh do you work in HR?
10:35 < JayDugger> No, in H+R!
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10:51 < nmz787_i> CaptHindsight: is it cooler to call them a nucleotide dealer?
10:51 < nmz787_i> they won't sell me "the stuff", man
10:52 < nmz787_i> some turf war jazz, ya dig?
10:52 < JayDugger> Heh. Talk to your doctor using the keywords from the latest pharmaceutical representative supplied promotional materials.
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14:57 < juul> kanzure: i'm in downtown oakland right now. I have to hold down the mesh hacknight at sudo room at 7:30 pm. If you're free you could come hang out and see the sudo/ccl/omni space
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15:15 < kanzure> juul: there might be another event i am somewhat obligated to attend, unfortunately
15:15 < kanzure> juul: how late do those things run for you?
15:17 < juul> kanzure: i'm usually there until about 2 am
15:18 < kanzure> ah well the other thing i need to go, probably wont last that long
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16:28 < kanzure> https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/bitcoin-miners-and-developers-meet-in-california-to-improve-communications-1470158657
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22:46 < kanzure> hmph
22:46 < kanzure> juul: i went in the wrong direction
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23:04 < juul> kanzure: :/ on the bart?
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23:07 < juul> well text me when you get here or dial SUDO on the payphone at the door
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23:09 < kanzure> juul: in palo alto. not likely to go your direction.
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23:47 < juul> kanzure: ah ok
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