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https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2016/08/08/letter-publishers-group-adds-debate-over-sci-hub-and-librarians-who-study-it 06:30 < kanzure> https://www.reddit.com/r/MachineLearning/comments/4w6tsv/ama_we_are_the_google_brain_team_wed_love_to/ 07:02 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:03 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@101.180.249.107] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:03 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@101.180.249.107] has quit [Changing host] 07:03 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:09 -!- Aurelius_Work [~cpopell@209.48.69.2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:12 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:15 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-101-180-249-107.lnse3.cha.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:15 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-101-180-249-107.lnse3.cha.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Changing host] 07:15 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 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08:54 < kanzure> i actually went a step beyond that-- the other reddit thread has a backlink to the podcast now :P https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4vub3y/mimblewimble_noninteractive_coinjoin_and_better/d693jr3 08:56 < kanzure> i like how they are calling you a monero shill in that thread when you explain monero's tech 08:56 < kanzure> that's pretty cute. 08:57 < kanzure> https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4woyc0/mimblewimble_interview_with_andrew_poelstra_and/d6943jf?context=1 08:57 < andytoshi> haha, yeah 08:57 < andytoshi> "i'm making a lot of assumptions without really understanding mimble wimble" 08:58 < andytoshi> guess he should've been on the show instead 08:59 < kanzure> "voldemort is very displeased with these developments" hehehe 08:59 < andytoshi> hehehehe 08:59 -!- nildicit_ [~nildicit@unaffiliated/nildicit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:02 -!- nildicit [~nildicit@unaffiliated/nildicit] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:18 -!- jtimon 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detectable with behavior rather than something simple like an apology 10:06 < JayDugger> Apologize? or crossing fingers? 10:06 < thesnark> why would you cross your fingers? 10:06 < JayDugger> Sometimes it makes the crow tastes bad when you have to eat it. 10:06 < kanzure> crossing your fingers makes you type faster, duh 10:06 < thesnark> heh 10:07 < JayDugger> ha. 10:11 < thesnark> speaking of manipulation....anybody know of good methods for prioritizing expenses in open source projects 10:11 < thesnark> as of now I have only seen argument megathreads where people attack each other 10:11 < thesnark> there has to be a better way... 10:12 < kanzure> yes, it's called "having someone who is responsible for the funds" 10:13 < thesnark> kanzure would you try to balance that responsibility with some kind of democratic process in which devs participate? 10:13 < andytoshi> thesnark: i would not, honestly 10:13 -!- smeaaagle_ [~smeaaagle@2002:6882:d6c::6882:d6c] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:13 < kanzure> thesnark: absolutely not 10:13 < andytoshi> thesnark: i've worked on open source projects where the lead dev privately emailed me, said "so we have this fund, i'm going to mail you a check" 10:14 < kanzure> thesnark: if you make it about voting then developers get turned into political targets moreso 10:14 < andytoshi> and aside from that private email i did not even know "this fund" existed. it worked very well, i guarantee with the devs on this project that there'd be constant arguing if we tried to be democratinc 10:14 < kanzure> thesnark: it's better to just spend money however you see fit. 10:14 < kanzure> thesnark: open-source is the commercial side of free software, after all. and in companies that's how it works. 10:15 < thesnark> sure...project I'm with is a 501c3 though 10:15 < thesnark> I actually agree that democracy is not optimal 10:15 < kanzure> 501c3s are command-control hierarchies 10:15 < thesnark> how to convince everybody else of that... 10:15 -!- 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compatible with both theano and tensorflow 13:24 < chris_99> cool 13:26 < chris_99> are you planning on using a GPU with a lot of RAM? 13:26 < kanzure> many gpu 13:26 < kanzure> i think eleitl is our local resident infiniband supplier 13:26 < kanzure> he's probably been stockpiling that shit for years 13:26 < chris_99> :) i think i saw an nvidia 16GB one, but it was like £1k :( 13:26 < chris_99> oh nice 13:27 < maaku> long term? a rack full of 1U servers each with 4x of these : https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/07/21/titan-x/ 13:28 < maaku> short term? MS Azure gpu instances are cheap and basically the same hardware class 13:29 < chris_99> fancy 13:43 < pasky> hmm why did you choose azure over aws? 13:43 < pasky> never really looked at azure 13:44 < Reventlov> azure is 4 years in the past compared to aws 13:44 < Reventlov> they're trying to bait people into using it by being compatible with a lot of stuff 13:44 < Reventlov> but the web administrations interface suck, are all over the place between old and new versions 13:44 < Reventlov> don't lose your time :| 13:45 < maaku> Reventlov: azure just added new gpu instances. look it up 13:45 < maaku> pasky: aws is crazy expensive for what they offer, their gpus are years out of date with small ram 13:46 < pasky> sorry for stupid questions, i'm on iodine; so they offer much better gpus for similar price? 13:46 < maaku> https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/azure-n-series-preview-availability/ 13:46 < maaku> pasky: in a nutshell, yes 13:47 < maaku> current generation, 12GB per gpu, local ssd, and cheaper than amazon 13:51 < maaku> anyone looked at wavelets transforms for ASR? 13:51 < maaku> something like http://www.asel.udel.edu/icslp/cdrom/vol4/356/a356.pdf 13:52 < kanzure> maaku: i would also suggest asking in #swhack because they do stupid things with language 13:55 < maaku> "The main advantage of scalograms (SCWT) over spectrograms (STFT) is that the former can preserve both the harmonic structure and the formant structure of the speech signal, resembling analysis performed by the human ear. In particular, sharp onset points can be identified from the scalogram. Due to these features, SCWT seems to have potential application in phoneme speech recognition" 13:56 < kanzure> yeah after looking at a lot of spectrograms of human speech i'm not convinced anyone has actually looked at this data. it's visualy difficult to distinguish between similar-sounding words. 13:57 < kanzure> maaku: http://stevehanov.ca/wavelet/ see fancy diagram 13:58 < maaku> The last time I looked at ASR spectrograms my conclusion was "why aren't people using wavelets?!?!" 13:58 < kanzure> "Why hasn't this been done before? The main reason is because it takes a LOT of space to store the sound. A 5 minute mp3 file recorded at 44100 samples per second will contain 13230000 samples. In the frequency domain, each complex sample takes 8 bytes. So each frequency band (line in the image) that you are interested in would take about 100MB. The resulting wavelet transform would take up 218 GB. Modern operating systems have blazing ... 13:59 < maaku> but I haven't found much post-deep-learning insurgency references 13:59 < kanzure> ... fast disk access, so it's feasible to process these in a multi-gigabyte file. Or, if you are just interested in viewing the result and not reconstructing the original sound file, you can scale the image to whatever size you want." 13:59 < kanzure> wavelet demo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRqtZWIirCA 14:00 < maaku> that seems irrelvant..? store the file as standard compressed audio, and expand via wavelet transform prior to input into the neural net 14:00 -!- jtimon [~quassel@55.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:01 < kanzure> agreed, not sure why he is complaining about storage. perhaps the math takes forever too? 14:02 < Reventlov> kanzure: Can i mention your name on swhack ? 14:02 < kanzure> yep sure 14:02 < maaku> i'm pretty sure it doesn't. there are fast wavelet transforms (see jpeg2000 for example) 14:02 < kanzure> alright then i revise my speculation to "maybe he's a moron" 14:04 < kanzure> "I'd like to do it using the method described in the oblique projections paper, but I haven't had a chance to figure out the math. Apparently, this method is O(N), whereas the FFT method is O(Nlog(N)). If it were that fast, we wouldn't have to store it on disk at all It could just be recomputed on the fly whenever we need to display it." 14:18 < archels> .title http://gigascience.biomedcentral.com/about 14:18 < yoleaux> GigaScience | About 14:21 -!- sivoais_ is now known as sivoais 14:21 -!- sivoais [~zaki@199.19.225.239] has quit [Changing host] 14:21 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:37 -!- irseeyou [~irseeyou@c-67-168-101-20.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:38 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@46.140.52.182] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:41 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cumrsbvqtcpoaqro] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:19 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@2a00:f41:38a6:4127:de85:deff:fe55:967a] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:41 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:100e:c500:51d8:6846:34dd:51da] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:41 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:100e:c500:51d8:6846:34dd:51da] has quit [Changing host] 15:41 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:49 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:02 < kanzure> https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/bitcoin-core-devs-reach-out-to-coders-with-month-long-coding-classes-1470675341 16:23 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-178-005-223-183.178.005.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:34 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:37 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:40 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:46 -!- winsen [~winsen@unaffiliated/winsen] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:55 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:55 -!- winsen_ [~winsen@unaffiliated/winsen] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:57 -!- winsen [~winsen@unaffiliated/winsen] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:00 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hmeormwbueqzsuex] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:26 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:30 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:49 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.145.152] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:49 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.145.152] has quit [Changing host] 17:49 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:07 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:27 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:33 -!- mgin [~mgin@unaffiliated/mgin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:33 < mgin> hey 18:34 < mgin> can anyone explain why this headline is so derogatory to "humans" specifically? http://futurism.com/ai-saves-womans-life-by-identifying-her-disease-when-other-methods-humans-failed/ 18:34 < mgin> why are they celebrating how humans "failed"? it's so weird and malevolent 18:35 < mgin> isn't the technological advancement a testament to the human mind and human innovation? why are they putting down humans? 18:35 < mgin> I really don't understand the motivation for saying something like that 18:39 < mgin> thoughts, anyone? 18:39 < mgin> this is really bothering me 18:41 -!- winsen_ [~winsen@unaffiliated/winsen] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:42 < thesnark> mgin it is playing on the sensationalized idea of man vs machine 18:42 < thesnark> mgin basically more clicks 18:42 < mgin> what do you mean? 18:44 < thesnark> more discussion = more clicks 18:44 < thesnark> more clicks = more ad money 18:44 < thesnark> so naturally if they can write it in a sensationalized way to make it sound like a highly advanced AI did something that was impossible for a human, people will find this new and shocking 18:44 < thesnark> it's headline grabbing 18:44 < thesnark> hence the writing style 18:44 < mgin> I get that, but why would they think suggesting "humans failed" is a matter of sensation? 18:45 < thesnark> the suggestion is that it did something better than humans could have 18:45 < maaku> mgin: because humans suck and need to die 18:50 < mgin> maaku: that seems to be the implication, is that seriously a thing? 18:50 < thesnark> mgin, yes 18:51 < mgin> really? 18:53 < kanzure> get out 18:53 < maaku> for a friendlier than it sounds definition of "die", yes absolutely 18:54 < mgin> can you explain that? 18:54 < maaku> the title is just weak sensationalist editorializing however 18:54 < mgin> is there a link you can send me? 18:55 < kanzure> i strongly recommend not reading anything ever written by a journalist 19:00 < mgin> that sounds extremely bizarre, I really want to know if this is a real thing 19:01 < maaku> mgin: what do you mean by "real thing"? 19:01 < mgin> if people actually hold this position 19:02 < mgin> do people hold this position? is there a name for it? is there a manifesto or something written up to this end? 19:03 < maaku> it is for example the obvious rationalist conclusion considering the risks humans put in the way of such nobel projects as making the universe intelligent 19:03 < thesnark> mgin, that people suck and are generally inferior to machines? I think kurzweil calls unmodified humans moshes 19:03 < thesnark> so something mosh discrimination or anti-mosh or something 19:05 < thesnark> it would be hate based on cognitive ability, ultimately 19:05 < thesnark> so whatever that is 19:05 < maaku> they also seem to do weird things like point nuclear weapons at each other for esoteric primate power dynamics reasons 19:05 < mgin> huh? 19:06 < mgin> maaku: you're just railing about humans doing dumb things. I'm asking if this is an actual position people hold, that "humans suck and need to die", i.e. is there a name for this position? is there a manifesto or something, an intellectual leader who's written about this? 19:06 < thesnark> misanthropy would be humans suck and need to die but not because they are inferior to machines...hmmm 19:06 < mgin> thesnark: I don't see how advocating for enhancement is to say that "humans suck and are inferior to machines" 19:07 < Malvolio> voluntary human extinction movement? 19:07 < mgin> Malvolio: that's the only thing I know of to that end 19:07 < thesnark> mgin, hm? No it isn't 19:07 < saturn2> antinatalism 19:07 < thesnark> there we go 19:07 < maaku> mgin: leader? terminology? not that I know of 19:08 < maaku> the above ^ are technically slightly different but related 19:08 < mgin> saturn2: but is this a scientific movement? that seems like something pretty obscure, not something responsible for this bizarre trend of people putting down humans as failures 19:09 < kanzure> let me know when i should start banning people 19:09 < thesnark> lul 19:09 < mgin> thesnark: so that doesn't really answer the question, since the MOSH stuff is related to enhancement, not to denouncing humans per se 19:10 < thesnark> mgin no sorry I was just saying that perhaps machines hating humans would be called something along the lines of anti-mosh discrimination or something 19:10 < mgin> that's not what I'm asking about at all 19:12 < thesnark> I think you're asking if there are really people who think in a derogatory way toward humans versus machines? 19:13 < mgin> yeah, that seems to be the implication, the putting down of humans as flawed/failures 19:13 < kanzure> take this somewhere else. and didn't i ban you? 19:14 < mgin> huh? what's the matter? 19:15 < mgin> and no I haven't been banned 19:15 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:17 < maaku> mgin: it's off-topic 19:21 < mgin> I don't think so 19:23 < maaku> mgin: what I mean is this isn't a discussion channel 19:23 < maaku> and it is borderline philosophy, which is OT 19:24 < mgin> oh. this isn't a discussion channel? 19:25 < mgin> is there a discussion channel to take this to? 19:26 < kanzure> this is not meant to be a discussion channel 19:27 < mgin> I had no idea. is there a related discussion channel? 19:32 < maaku> ##hplusroadmap-offtopic? (doesn't exist) 19:43 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:47 -!- thesnark [~mike@unaffiliated/thesnark] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:50 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:51 -!- jtimon [~quassel@55.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:57 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@46.140.52.182] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:07 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:16 < streety> While I have much more interest in the comments on DNA synthesis, gpgpu's, machine learning, optical sensors etc that have come up recently I don't see how those comments are not discussion and the most recent subject was. 20:16 < streety> off topic / low signal to noise I can see, but isn't everything discussion? 20:17 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@46.140.52.182] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:22 < kanzure> streety: projects and things we are working on vs philosophy about journalism and outrage culture 20:32 < streety> I totally get the off topic assertion. Perhaps a meaning of discussion I'm not familiar with though 20:32 < streety> it's a minor point 20:40 < kanzure> *shrug* i don't mind your brand of devil's advocacy so far 20:45 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:02 -!- mgin [~mgin@unaffiliated/mgin] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 21:27 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:48 < nmz787_> you guys are weird 21:48 < nmz787_> s/guys/folks/ 21:49 < nmz787_> that mgin person seemed like they wanted a legitimate answer 21:50 < nmz787_> I mean, clickbait was reasonable, but in general a more straight-forward way to nip-this-in-the-bud is to point out that AI is technology, technology is inherently human created 21:51 < nmz787_> I mean, at least in a historical meaning pre-biology-is-technology slogans 21:53 < nmz787_> a more reasonable response just after: "18:45 < maaku> mgin: because humans suck and need to die" would have been something pointing to telomeres and shitty bugs in 'human code' which literally in a formal verification kind of sense means we MUST die, or at least the inverse of we haven't been able to prove a way NOT to die 21:54 < nmz787_> thus leading in to scientific articles on cancer pathways, blah blah blha, CRISPR, yada yada, gut flora, epigenetics, etc... 21:56 < nmz787_> "18:34 < mgin> can anyone explain why this headline is so derogatory to "humans" specifically?" -- because humans are sick and tired of being sick and tired, and are crying out for advance, are are just cynical and self-destructive 21:56 < nmz787_> s/are are just cynical/or are just cynical/ 21:58 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:00 < nmz787_> kanzure: anyone here that would benefit from being sponsored to take this? http://www.gatan.com/company/events/eels-eftem-analysis-training-school-october-2016 22:00 < nmz787_> fenn: ? 22:01 < kanzure> yeah maybe one of the counter culture labs people... 22:10 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@212.241.25.103] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:15 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:34 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [] 22:34 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.145.152] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:34 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.145.152] has quit [Changing host] 22:34 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:43 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cumrsbvqtcpoaqro] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 22:43 < maaku> maybe I'm dense, I honestly didn't understand what mgin was asking 22:46 < maaku> at first at least 22:47 < maaku> i hope we didn't scare him away :( 22:50 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@c-50-188-129-64.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:53 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:05 -!- irseeyou [~irseeyou@c-67-168-101-20.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 23:11 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:24 -!- Jawmare [~Jawmare@unaffiliated/jawmare] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:24 -!- Jawmare [~Jawmare@unaffiliated/jawmare] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:25 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@c-50-188-129-64.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:25 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@c-50-188-129-64.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:26 -!- yoleaux [~yoleaux@xn--ht-1ia18f.nonceword.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:34 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@c-50-188-129-64.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:49 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:100e:c500:7876:6f0b:b7ec:28bd] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:49 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:100e:c500:7876:6f0b:b7ec:28bd] has quit [Changing host] 23:49 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Tue Aug 09 00:00:20 2016