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bkero is now known as bkero-pto 09:26 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-166-193-194.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:27 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-81-199-43.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:37 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@46.140.52.182] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:39 -!- cynsia [cyn@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe79:d5d] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:39 < kanzure> pasky: ah. i was looking at CTC implementations last night. i thought maybe i had said something in the channel about it... 10:01 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:14 < kanzure> http://nautil.us/issue/39/sport/we-are-nowhere-close-to-the-limits-of-athletic-performance 10:19 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:37 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@212.241.25.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:27 < fenn> what's the difference between CTC and dynamic time warping? 11:43 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we know it don't work 13:27 < kanzure> also if superkuh doesn't know then we can always ask jcorgan (gnuradio-sdr maintainer) 13:29 < genehacker> but fluidics and mechanical systems don't care about the heat 13:30 < genehacker> so we can build a probe that has some fluidic logic and sensors and stuff and it can do science 13:30 < genehacker> problem is getting data back 13:31 < genehacker> so I'm thinking maybe I can use said fluidics to modulate the radar cross section of said probe 13:32 < kanzure> iirc some data was retrieved from venus landers 13:32 < genehacker> so we can hit it with radar, look at how the cross section changes and get data back 13:32 < genehacker> it was, but those landers didn't last more than a couple hours before the electronics inside literally melted 13:34 < genehacker> if we want to do long term science, we need something that can take the heat 13:35 < genehacker> https://www.nasa.gov/feature/automaton-rover-for-extreme-environments-aree 13:43 -!- Malvolio 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< JayDugger> Fogg and Sagan both had write-ups of terraforming Venus that didn't involve gasbag cities. 15:05 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:13 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xiqqutsyztvaamyx] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 15:20 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:25 -!- augur [~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:cc32:ff9e:e53d:e13f] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:33 -!- cynsia [cyn@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe79:d5d] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:47 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.145.152] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:47 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.145.152] has quit [Changing host] 15:47 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:52 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:03 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.145.152] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:03 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.145.152] has quit 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maaku_> 50-200 day mission 16:46 < maaku_> the "examples of proposals" part of this article is a wonderful read :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_Program 16:46 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:52 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@2a00:f41:305a:50d3:b507:14fe:99a1:6de6] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:04 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.145.152] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:04 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.145.152] has quit [Changing host] 17:04 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:07 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@2a00:f41:305a:50d3:b507:14fe:99a1:6de6] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:13 -!- cynsia [cyn@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe79:d5d] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:18 < genehacker> yeah that one uses plutonium for power though 17:18 < genehacker> NASA is running out of that 17:19 < genehacker> here's a more detailed study on a plutonium powered rover: http://www.hou.usra.edu/meetings/venustech2015/pdf/4021.pdf 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through some non-magnetic section (window?) 22:20 < nmz787_> gene_hacker: would something like this work, would something like this survive the temps? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amplidyne 22:20 < nmz787_> it's electrical, but not electronic 22:23 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:42 -!- cynsia [cyn@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe79:d5d] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:46 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@212.241.25.103] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:54 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@213.200.193.129] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:04 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Sat Aug 13 00:00:24 2016