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06:10 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone.
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07:34 < kanzure> what are your demands?
08:02 < kanzure> yashgaroth: btw i found another source of funding for myostatin things. if i forget to mention then you should interogate at will.
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08:27 < FourFire> kanzure, chatting with edmondp, and a couple of others about getting people together to transhumanist related research or advocacy, do you have relevant thoughts about this?
08:28 < FourFire> to do*
08:47 < kanzure> i don't recommend academic research as a long-term hobby in the U.S. because of the glut of workers there. it's really really broken. but perhaps for a little while, perhaps for some training or something, but not for long-term career stuff.
08:47 < FourFire> OK, what do you feel about introducing a bnch of people to DiY Bio?
08:48 < kanzure> you learn more skils in academic labs much more quickly than in diybio.
08:49 < FourFire> Ok.
08:49 < kanzure> if they already have lots of resources then sure diybio is probably fine. but otherwise it takes forever for people to make anything- usually because of their lack of experience, which is usually acquired from .. academic labs.
08:50 < FourFire> so is the net benefit of intridcing people to labs in a nonprofessional setting insufficient to justify the cost?
08:50 < FourFire> introducing*
08:50 < kanzure> no idea.
08:51 < kanzure> in my experience, people in diybio don't get much done mostly because of resource reasons. if you have a bunch of equipment laying around, sure go show them i guess.
08:51 < FourFire> I'm participating in a Diy Bio group at my hackerspace at present, and, right ow discussing increasing the number of people interested in actually oing something about transhumanism
08:52 < kanzure> do you already have those people, or are they hypothetical people?
08:53 < FourFire> Both, I'm going to meet a bunch of new students at the UiO tomorrow
08:53 < FourFire> want to fish for transhumanism interested people, and go from there
08:54 < FourFire> I know edmondp, my housemate, and a couple o people in Germany who are transhmanists, but uncertain about how to cordinate/what to coordinate on.
08:54 < FourFire> I'm chatting with three of the latter right now on mmble
08:55 < kanzure> well if you are asking for generic project ideas,
08:55 < FourFire> also the rest of the DiY Bio people who've returned to more meetings might be interested, but that's ify.
08:55 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/dna/projects/#igem-2014
08:56 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/genetic-modifications/
08:56 < FourFire> I'm more asking if you have any ideas for getting people to coordinate and stop being stupid, but projects ideas are nice
08:56 < FourFire> (or do you think I'm wasting my time?)
08:57 < kanzure> essentially you should encourage them to work on achievable short-term projects together in small groups
08:57 < kanzure> and give them a bunch of examples of what those things might be
08:58 < kanzure> biology and hardware projects do not seem to work very well over the web at the moment (because you need to replicate the physical setups for almost every contributor.)
08:58 < FourFire> yeah I get that
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09:12 < FourFire> I've asked edmondp to talk to you about this kanzure
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09:37 < kanzure> Sochiro: howdy
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09:49 < Sochiro> hey kanzure
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12:01 < kanzure> "Miescher believed that proteins were the molecules of heredity"
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14:02 < ybit_> "on-board medical nanorobotics may eventually perform a variety of biological cellular repair and augmentation functions; smart contract DACs could track activity (including for liability purposes) and use cryptoeconomic principles to coordinate and deliver resources"
14:02 < ybit_> not sure i want that future :)
14:02 < ybit_> from https://hack.ether.camp/#/idea/bio-nano-dac
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16:12 < chris_99> anyone seen this - http://www.opensurgery.net/
16:12 < chris_99> i can't seem to find the specs etc. though atm
16:13 < chris_99> oh i can see a video now, their website is rather confusing
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17:11 < maaku> FourFire maybe some work on open source lab automation?
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17:14 < maaku> If we had a programmable wet lab in a box with the usability of consumer 3d printers, that would go a long way towards making remote collaboration possible
17:28 < CaptHindsight> and avoids the use of dunio, marlin, GRBL and other crap
17:38 < fenn> grbl is fine for pipette automation
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23:02 < nmz787_> .tell chris_99 I think I ended up using this when I couldn't figure out sigrok, or maybe I only thought I would try to use it: http://inincs.github.io/pyNCS/general/pyosc.html
23:02 < yoleaux> nmz787_: I'll pass your message to chris_99.
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