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07:14 < kanzure> to avoid robotic assembly problems, my recommendation would b to focus on vlsi of very flat machines
07:14 < kanzure> which can be constructed using photolithography and other low-touch techniques
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07:15 < CaptHindsight> or use meat robots
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07:38 < xentrac> CaptHindsight: that's the approach gene_hacker is advocating, and it sounds like a good idea
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08:27 < kanzure> reason for flat machinesi s because you restrict number of degrees of freedom required for motion stuff. see prior interest in flat engines.
08:29 < kanzure> *is because
08:29 < kanzure> *be
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08:40 < kanzure> for vacuum-resistance extremophiles, i think the solution for the delivery of nutrients and vitamins is going to be powdered dust clouds.
08:40 < kanzure> perhaps use lasers to conformationally shape finely-powdered nutrient dust clouds (not sure how to do this with water, though)
08:40 < kanzure> ah right, well you can move ice around of course
08:43 < kanzure> "Synthetic Biology for Space Exploration: Promises and Societal Implications" https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Cyprien_Verseux/publication/281494184_Synthetic_Biology_for_Space_Exploration_Promises_and_Societal_Implications/links/5615ba2f08aed47faceff2ea.pdf
08:51 < ybit> if anyone wants these two BBC documentaries, Chemistry: A Volatile History or The Cell, i'm seeding them now. i couldn't find a place to rent or buy them, but i did find a seeder who uploaded at around 20kb/s :P
08:51 < ybit> the cell
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08:51 < ybit> chemistry: a volatile history
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09:46 < maaku> kanzure: Conway invented the game of life for the purpose of designing a self-replicator, which his students did
09:47 < maaku> obviously the low level details would be different, but perhaps this cellular automata architecture would be useful for a flat self-replicating machine
09:49 < kanzure> "extract citations from pdf files" https://github.com/academia-edu/biblicit
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10:04 < kanzure> huh, c. elegans survived the destruction of STS-107 during reentry
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10:15 < kanzure> these guys used silica aerogels to capture orbiting microparticles to place some bounds on orbiting microbial content http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/ast.2015.1415
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13:33 < nmz787_i> ybit: I'll grab them starting in 4-5 hours, if you can leave them uploading for a while longer
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17:34 < kanzure> bloop
17:46  * juri_ beeps.
17:53 < nmz787_> blorp
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18:55 < kanzure> i see.
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18:58 < juri_> in other news.. more biohacking! i need a new neck. :(
19:05 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/space/astrobiology/
19:06 < kanzure> i think that microbes will stay inside interstellar droplets of water because surface tension at least, so you just have to fly nutrient dust into microbial fogs in the vacuum of space and you should get some sort of biomass growth
19:12 < kanzure> and then you get lots of weird manufacturing capabilities
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20:33 < CaptHindsight> ponders the market for anti-bacterial space wipes
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21:00 < kanzure> http://cointimes.tech/2016/08/29/hard-forks-and-consensus-networks-meta-questions-and-limitations/
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21:38 < nmz787_> CaptHindsight: crush it, just print new labels and slap them on existing wipes (the kind with thymol are pretty enjoyable too)
21:39 < nmz787_> you already have all the printers and ink to make the best damn looking labels there can be, probably
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