--- Log opened Sun Sep 11 00:00:51 2016 00:09 -!- esmerelda [~mabel@unaffiliated/jacco] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:33 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:42 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:6d2e:e041:c143:9faf] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:42 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:6d2e:e041:c143:9faf] has quit [Changing host] 00:42 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:03 -!- esmerelda [~mabel@unaffiliated/jacco] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:24 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:28 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:29 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:05 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-147-160-184.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:06 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-224-141-43.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:37 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dgzxvneufomnywzf] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:40 < kanzure> oh it's probably because targeting memory consolidation pathways/neurons is difficult with viruses 03:41 < kanzure> or er, with stereotaxic stuff. because poking through lots of brain matter, and such. (viral targeting is probably more possible, to be fair) 03:44 < fenn> neither of those are good reasons 03:46 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:52 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@101.177.254.142] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:52 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@101.177.254.142] has quit [Changing host] 03:52 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:55 < kanzure> why would that not be a good reason? 03:55 < kanzure> they probably break all the other brain parts if they try to inject neurons near those targets 03:55 < kanzure> http://www.academia.edu/download/39731675/Upgrading_the_sleeping_brain_with_target20151105-18157-51ku9k.pdf 03:57 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:58 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:05 < kanzure> mirror tracing task and dream recall http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jsr.12286/full 04:19 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@46.140.52.182] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:34 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-valvkiltjaalbfkp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:09 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@p341251-ipngn200606kyoto.kyoto.ocn.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:39 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-094-223-128-173.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:46 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@p341251-ipngn200606kyoto.kyoto.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: wrldpc1] 06:00 < abetusk> psa: pstoedit is an excellent tool. Worth looking into if you want to convert between formats. It even goes from postscript to gcode 06:09 < JayDugger> Thank you for posting the link to the HSAM paper, kanzure. 06:10 < JayDugger> And I'll guess "no," but would be interested in knowing whether the head-mounted refrigerator works. 06:12 < JayDugger> Not super-impressed that the HSAM paper relies so much on "can you keep a mental perpetual calendar," though. 06:17 -!- augur [~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:fd6e:3edd:771d:4306] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:55 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:55 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:7457:71b:8004:8ece] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:55 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:7457:71b:8004:8ece] has quit [Changing host] 06:55 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:25 < abetusk> .title http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-s079-nanomaker-spring-2013/videos/ 07:25 < yoleaux> Videos | Nanomaker | Electrical Engineering and Computer Science | MIT OpenCourseWare 07:27 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:29 -!- cynsia [cyn@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe79:d5d] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:31 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-094-223-128-173.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:49 -!- cynsia [cyn@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe79:d5d] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:07 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:20 -!- kenn123 [~kenn123@CPEf0f2490c77c3-CMf0f2490c77c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:21 -!- kenn123 [~kenn123@CPEf0f2490c77c3-CMf0f2490c77c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Client Quit] 08:25 -!- kenn123 [~kenn123@CPEf0f2490c77c3-CMf0f2490c77c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:52 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dgzxvneufomnywzf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 09:03 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.65.5] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:04 -!- sandeepkr_ [~sandeepkr@111.235.65.5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:10 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@46.140.52.182] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:17 -!- kenn123 [~kenn123@CPEf0f2490c77c3-CMf0f2490c77c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:36 -!- kenn123 [~kenn123@CPEf0f2490c77c3-CMf0f2490c77c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:38 < justanotheruser> .title https://youtu.be/plVk4NVIUh8 09:38 < yoleaux> The Evolution of Bacteria on a “Mega-Plate” Petri Dish - YouTube 09:39 -!- kenn123 [~kenn123@CPEf0f2490c77c3-CMf0f2490c77c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Client Quit] 09:43 < justanotheruser> Is this a common technique? If so, what other evolutionary experiments have been done 09:48 < CaptHindsight> the problem is sourcing the 4ft square petri dishes 09:50 < kanzure> justanotheruser: surely you know about the 20 year 40,000 generation ecoli experiments? 09:51 < justanotheruser> I do not 09:51 < kanzure> justanotheruser: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evolution_experiment 09:51 < justanotheruser> by this technique I mean specifically the large petri dish 09:51 < CaptHindsight> Chipotle has been open for 20 years? 09:51 < justanotheruser> but that is in my interest too 09:52 < kanzure> so that link is a good place to start 09:52 < kanzure> but also things like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_vitro_compartmentalization 10:02 -!- Bakkot [~Bakkot@c-67-188-42-46.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: death] 10:06 < justanotheruser> Would be interesting if they had a database mapping DNAs to the attributes o fthe growth medium it has survived 10:25 < kanzure> justanotheruser: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/montclare-protein-engineering/directed-evolution/ 10:36 < justanotheruser> very interesting 11:16 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@192.55.55.41] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:30 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-094-223-128-173.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:31 -!- kenn123 [~kenn123@CPEf0f2490c77c3-CMf0f2490c77c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:33 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@195.114.242.193] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:33 -!- kenn123 [~kenn123@CPEf0f2490c77c3-CMf0f2490c77c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:33 -!- kenn123 [~kenn123@CPEf0f2490c77c3-CMf0f2490c77c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:53 < pasky> justanotheruser: there is also a similar experiment with fruit flies 11:59 < kanzure> and dogs, foxes, tomato, lots of stuff. 12:13 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-valvkiltjaalbfkp] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 12:30 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@192.55.55.41] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:41 < kanzure> probably there's a thing that selects events for memory consolidation. that's probably an ideal target for enhancement. consolidation probably works well enough, and maybe it's the set of things that need to get consolidated that is too fuzzy. 12:42 -!- kenn123 [~kenn123@CPEf0f2490c77c3-CMf0f2490c77c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: Away for too long: http://ibinary.com/libas] 12:45 -!- FNinTak [~jonhbit@dhcp-18-111-25-202.dyn.mit.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:45 -!- FNinTak [~jonhbit@dhcp-18-111-25-202.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:46 -!- FNinTak [~jonhbit@dhcp-18-111-25-202.dyn.mit.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:10 < justanotheruser> kanzure: where do I go when sci-hub.la is down 13:10 < kanzure> to the motherland https://vk.com/sci_hub 13:11 < justanotheruser> how does this even work 13:11 < justanotheruser> I don't speak russian 13:12 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:12 < kanzure> over-annunciate your v's and you'll be fine 13:12 < justanotheruser> srsly though, is there supposed to be a mirror link here or something 13:12 < kanzure> http://sci-hub.cc/ 13:13 < justanotheruser> danke 13:16 -!- FNinTak [~jonhbit@dhcp-18-111-25-202.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:29 -!- augur [~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:e841:a1ba:9b27:2828] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:43 -!- augur [~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:e841:a1ba:9b27:2828] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:46 -!- augur [~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:46 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-094-223-128-173.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:56 < kanzure> "A cognitive prosthesis for memory facilitation by closed-loop functional ensemble stimulation of hippocampal neurons in primate brain" http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0014488616301492 13:57 < kanzure> oh it is berger. that is okay with me. 13:58 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/memory/A%20cognitive%20prosthesis%20for%20memory%20facilitation%20by%20closed-loop%20functional%20ensemble%20stimulation%20of%20hippocampal%20neurons%20in%20primate%20brain%20-%20Berger%20-%202016.pdf 14:00 < kanzure> page 29 (marked 28) has a diagram of their circuit. those wires sure do seem to go through a lot of important brain matter.... 14:03 < kanzure> "Morphometric and histologic substrates of cingulate integrity in elders with exceptional memory capacity" http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/memory/Morphometric%20and%20histologic%20substrates%20of%20cingulate%20integrity%20in%20elders%20with%20exceptional%20memory%20capacity%20-%202015.pdf 14:03 < kanzure> "These findings suggest that reduced vulnerability to the age-related emergence of Alzheimer pathology and higher von Economo neuron density in anterior cingulate cortex may represent biological correlates of high memory capacity in advanced old age." 14:06 < kanzure> "Sparse generalized volterra model of human hippocampal spike train transformation for memory prostheses" 14:06 < kanzure> "Nonlinear dynamical modeling of human hippocampal CA3-CA1 functional connectivity for memory prostheses" 14:08 < kanzure> "Neurons and networks organizing and sequencing memories" https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Dong_Song2/publication/270288519_Neurons_and_Networks_Organizing_and_Sequencing_Memories/links/551d805d0cf213ef063e6149.pdf 14:10 < kanzure> "Distributed encoding of spatial and object categories in primate hippocampal microcircuits" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4594006/ 14:12 < kanzure> "A million-plus neuron model of the hippocampal dentate gyrus: Dependency of spatio-temporal network dynamics on topography" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4878386/ 14:20 < kanzure> "Hamani et al. (2008) describe a case where a patient was implanted with a deep brain stimulation (DBS) device targeted at the hypothalamus to treat morbid obesity. Through post-operative CT scans, the researchers estimated that the electrodes were located in the hypothalamus, but two were notably proximal to the fornix. Initial stimulation of one electrode evoked an autobiographical memory from decades prior. Of particular relevance, ... 14:20 < kanzure> ... the patient developed enhanced memory function. Hamani et al. found that DBS led to greater activation in the patient's hippocampus and parahippocampal gyrus. Suthana et al. (2012) implanted DBS electrodes in the entorhinal cortex of epilepsy patients and found enhanced spatial memory. 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(@BoredSynBio) 21:13 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/BoredSynBio/status/620966652545511424 21:14 < yoleaux> A human appendix engineered to do something, anything. (@BoredSynBio) 21:14 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/BoredSynBio/status/617389703227162625 21:14 < yoleaux> Fungal spores that are sprinkled onto your yard and grow into a Slip n Slide. #GeorgeDoesThe4th (@BoredSynBio) 21:14 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/BoredSynBio/status/616654871022989312 21:14 < yoleaux> Mandatory microbiome tests for presidential candidates to quantify how full of shit they are, and what kind. (@BoredSynBio) 21:14 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/BoredSynBio/status/616287838825484288 21:14 < yoleaux> Worms that don't succumb to the early bird. (@BoredSynBio) 21:15 -!- FNinTak [~jonhbit@dhcp-18-111-25-202.dyn.MIT.EDU] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:15 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/BoredSynBio/status/609384867646697472 21:15 < yoleaux> Gene circuit to selectively regulate dihydrotestosterone stimulation of hair follicles so that my beard is always the perfect length. (@BoredSynBio) 21:16 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/BoredSynBio/status/609196064445497344 21:16 < yoleaux> Zoo full of synthetic (and de-extincted) animals, including mammoths and dinosaurs. All profits go to next-gen conservation efforts. 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