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08:03 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:04 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:6c3a:866d:3f36:1025] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:04 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:6c3a:866d:3f36:1025] has quit [Changing host] 08:04 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:04 < superkuh> https://www.reddit.com/r/KIC8462852/comments/52pxi0/gaia_parallax_for_kic8462852_is_2554887_mas/ With partial range determination from parallax some of the options for explaining brightness variation in the "alien megastructures" star are ruled out. But the error bars are still big for now. 08:06 < juri_> yay. progress on our hackerspace's scanning electron microscope. 08:08 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:11 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:6c3a:866d:3f36:1025] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:11 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:6c3a:866d:3f36:1025] has quit [Changing host] 08:11 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:14 < dbolser> I'm not dead yet 08:14 < dbolser> What do you think of TumbleBit? 08:16 < kanzure> *shrug* i'll be hanging out with ethan next month for a few days. 08:21 < dbolser> cool 08:22 < dbolser> I'm curious if it offers scaling 08:22 < dbolser> and how dependent are you on that particular tumble-node being up to complete your tx 08:22 < kanzure> most privacy-enhancing proposals tend to increase the resource requirements, such as the large amounts of data required for the "confidential transactions" implementation 08:23 < kanzure> also consider looking more closely at joinmarket, which is presently deployed 08:23 < dbolser> but TumbeBit is off chain... not to say that it doesn't require a lot of on chain tx 08:23 < dbolser> OK 08:23 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bitcoin/Join%20me%20on%20a%20market%20for%20anonymity%20-%20joinmarket%20-%202016.pdf 08:23 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bitcoin/TumbleBit:%20An%20untrusted%20bitcoin-compatible%20anonymous%20payment%20hub%20-%202016.pdf 08:23 < dbolser> ta 08:23 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bitcoin/TumbleBit:%20An%20untrusted%20tumbler%20for%20bitcoin-compatible%20anonymous%20payments%20-%202016.pdf 08:24 < kanzure> these others are also interesting but less immediately practical: 08:24 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bitcoin/Increasing%20anonymity%20in%20bitcoin%20using%20one-way%20aggregatable%20signatures.pdf 08:24 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bitcoin/mimblewimble.txt 08:24 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bitcoin/Compact%20confidential%20transactions.pdf 08:24 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bitcoin/Ring%20confidential%20transactions.pdf 08:24 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bitcoin/Ring%20confidential%20transactions%20-%20Noether%20-%202015.pdf 08:24 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bitcoin/An%20investigation%20into%20Confidential%20Transactions%20-%20Adam%20Gibson%20-%202016.pdf 08:25 < dbolser> saw you quoted on mimblewimble ;-) 08:27 < kanzure> journaists are sneaky like that. it happens. 08:27 < kanzure> *journalists 08:28 < gradstudentbot> You know, I'd like to biopsy that butt. 08:29 < dbolser> hehe 08:34 < kanzure> why are we using telescopes and not clouds of (liquid?) crystals to orient to distant light sources 08:35 < JayDugger> I blame Nixon. 08:44 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-005-222-194.178.005.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:02 -!- Orpheon 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has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:24 < kanzure> "Cortical thickness in fusiform face area predicts face and object recognition performance" http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/jocn_a_00891?journalCode=jocn 17:29 < kanzure> "A functional neuroimaging study of fusiform response to restricted interests in children and adolescents with autism spectrum disorder" https://jneurodevdisorders.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s11689-016-9149-6 17:49 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.136.96.226] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:49 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.136.96.226] has quit [Changing host] 17:49 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:10 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:21 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.136.97.43] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:21 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.136.97.43] has quit [Changing host] 18:21 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:43 -!- ebowden 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[~Gurkengla@dslb-178-005-222-194.178.005.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:52 < kanzure> "... our results show that ametropic individuals tend to imagine objects as out-of-focus or without colour more often than control individuals without vision defects" 19:54 < kanzure> "Alternatively, it may be hypothesized that the absence of colour in some images may be related to specific subclinical alterations in the perception of colours presented in some types of refractive errors. Thyagarajan and co-workers [62], indeed, found a slight effect of refractive blur induced in normal subjects using convex spherical lenses on colour vision performance. What remains to be analysed is if different types of refractive ... 19:54 < kanzure> ... errors or different severities of refractive errors correspond to different types of visual mental imagery vividness. Also it would be interesting to understand if the effect of refractive errors on mental imagery is just limited to the vividness of mental images." 19:55 -!- Darius [~quassel@cpe-158-222-160-123.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 19:55 -!- Darius [~quassel@cpe-158-222-160-123.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:05 -!- Darius [~quassel@cpe-158-222-160-123.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:07 -!- Darius [~quassel@cpe-158-222-160-123.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:22 -!- Darius [~quassel@cpe-158-222-160-123.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:24 -!- Guest62076 [~quassel@cpe-158-222-160-123.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:24 < justanotheruser> freecad kind of sucks. What is a good alternative if I don't care so much about modeling parts, and more about taking STEP files from mcmaster and putting them together 20:25 < justanotheruser> I know you mentioned solidworks 20:33 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oabpwwdegxymrelj] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20:39 -!- Guest62076 [~quassel@cpe-158-222-160-123.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 20:40 -!- Darius_ [~quassel@cpe-158-222-160-123.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:41 -!- Darius_ [~quassel@cpe-158-222-160-123.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:55 < kanzure> justanotheruser: brlcad can handle STEP files. but it sucks in different ways :). 21:09 < justanotheruser> can it be used to easily constrain multiple surfaces, perhaps rotate these part groups, etc 21:10 < kanzure> not sure, you'll have to ask in #brlcad during normal business hours 21:12 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.152.96.153] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:12 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.152.96.153] has quit [Changing host] 21:12 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:17 < justanotheruser> alright, thanks 21:18 < justanotheruser> also thinking I should look into Inventor 21:21 < justanotheruser> wine HQ saying it doesn't run well 21:21 < kanzure> run a virtual machine 21:21 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:22 < justanotheruser> You ever composed parts using solidworks? 21:22 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.152.96.153] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:22 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.152.96.153] has quit [Changing host] 21:22 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:22 < justanotheruser> yes, a VM is the only option for most of this software I assume 21:22 < justanotheruser> but running on linux without a VM is a bonus 21:24 < gradstudentbot> Perhaps some poor russian machinist concocted it to sell to a collector. 21:26 -!- nildicit [~nildicit@unaffiliated/nildicit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:26 -!- nildicit [~nildicit@unaffiliated/nildicit] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 21:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:27 < justanotheruser> oh cool, he's back 21:41 < kanzure> night. 21:49 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@101.177.254.142] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:49 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@101.177.254.142] has quit [Changing host] 21:49 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:23 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:23 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:852a:81a:2ea7:fe1d] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:23 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:852a:81a:2ea7:fe1d] has quit [Changing host] 22:23 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:27 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:31 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@212.97.6.22] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:02 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:07 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@103.49.155.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:42 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:852a:81a:2ea7:fe1d] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:42 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:852a:81a:2ea7:fe1d] has quit [Changing host] 23:42 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:42 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.65.5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:49 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] --- Log closed Thu Sep 15 00:00:54 2016