--- Log opened Sat Sep 17 00:00:55 2016 --- Day changed Sat Sep 17 2016 00:00 < JayDugger> I have no good suggestions for making one million USD in two years that don't require you to have almost as much at the start of the two years. 00:01 < gradstudentbot> I think using the laser is making me sterile. 00:15 -!- Darius [~quassel@cpe-158-222-160-123.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:18 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:29 < ProfSechs> Jaydugger, please suggest. 00:29 < ProfSechs> i'd dedicate myself to it if you're not joking and the ideas are valid. 00:33 < ProfSechs> oh missed the "no" part of "no good suggestions" 00:33 < ProfSechs> late night. 00:36 < JayDugger> Understandable. I rarely clearly read or write until after a few cups of coffee. 00:38 < ProfSechs> Does Ruby and microcontrollers work together or must it be in C or Python? 00:44 < ProfSechs> but for the sake of the argument, does anyone have suggestions on making 1 million? 00:44 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:55 < ProfSechs> I've found out... never you mind. 01:03 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:8c13:3e7d:843:2b56] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:03 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:8c13:3e7d:843:2b56] has quit [Changing host] 01:03 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:07 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:11 -!- anoncicada [anoncicada@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ixdhvtwvwogxvkdt] has quit [Changing host] 01:11 -!- anoncicada [anoncicada@unaffiliated/anarcanon] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:11 -!- anoncicada [anoncicada@unaffiliated/anarcanon] has quit [Changing host] 01:11 -!- anoncicada [anoncicada@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ixdhvtwvwogxvkdt] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:12 < anoncicada> fenn: not much, no 01:42 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:49 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:53 -!- esmerelda [~mabel@unaffiliated/jacco] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:53 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:11 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.81] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:14 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.253.81] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:43 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:8c13:3e7d:843:2b56] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:43 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:8c13:3e7d:843:2b56] has quit [Changing host] 02:43 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:47 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:51 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:8c13:3e7d:843:2b56] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:51 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:8c13:3e7d:843:2b56] has quit [Changing host] 02:51 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:02 -!- WizJin [WizJin@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-itjoszctqzclvxwz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:20 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.253.81] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:23 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.81] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:33 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-005-222-194.178.005.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:44 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:51 -!- esmerelda [~mabel@unaffiliated/jacco] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:52 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:34 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.81] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:37 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.253.81] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:39 -!- urchin_ [~urchin@89.17.22.228] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:42 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Disconnected by services] 04:42 -!- urchin_ is now known as Urchin 04:42 -!- Urchin [~urchin@89.17.22.228] has quit [Changing host] 04:42 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:42 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:43 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:15 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-chwyhuphhjwykukx] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:26 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:8c13:3e7d:843:2b56] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:26 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:8c13:3e7d:843:2b56] has quit [Changing host] 05:26 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:32 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:35 < TMA> ProfSechs: the conventional suggestion to making 1 million dollars is: "Make 10 million dollars. Give 9 million dollars to charity." 05:47 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.253.81] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:50 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.81] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:52 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-005-222-194.178.005.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:02 < kanzure> hmph. 06:12 -!- Darius [~quassel@cpe-158-222-160-123.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:16 -!- Darius [~quassel@cpe-158-222-160-123.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:41 -!- Darius [~quassel@cpe-158-222-160-123.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:47 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:11 -!- balrog [~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:26 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:27 -!- arthurl [~arthurl@c-76-117-135-15.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:36 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@213.200.193.129] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:43 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.81] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:46 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:46 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.253.81] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:54 < docl> Wouldn't the standard advice be to find a niche market that isn't efficiently served by the current market? 07:56 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-005-222-194.178.005.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:30 < kanzure> well i should have told him wrong channel, really.... 08:49 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.253.81] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:52 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.81] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:53 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUKnOHiDuak 08:53 < yoleaux> How a Group of Elite Scientists Pursued Space Colonies, Nanotechnologies, and a Limitless Future - YouTube 08:57 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKVtWg4bJO8 08:58 < yoleaux> Computational Thinking for a Modern Kidney Exchange - YouTube 09:00 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3HboZ2HArw 09:00 < yoleaux> Regenesis: How Synthetic Biology Will Reinvent Nature and Ourselves - YouTube 09:03 -!- Darius [~quassel@cpe-158-222-160-123.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:08 -!- Darius [~quassel@cpe-158-222-160-123.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:19 -!- anoncicada [anoncicada@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ixdhvtwvwogxvkdt] has quit [Quit: faggory daggory doo!] 09:24 -!- anoncicada [anoncicada@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-nyjcpfgtknfdvdct] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:26 -!- arthurl [~arthurl@c-76-117-135-15.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:27 -!- arthurl [~arthurl@c-76-117-135-15.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:37 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:8c13:3e7d:843:2b56] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:37 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:8c13:3e7d:843:2b56] has quit [Changing host] 09:37 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:42 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:50 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.81] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:53 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.253.81] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:03 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nurlrvzpldazvcvv] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:10 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.81] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:19 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:23 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-196-233-8.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:23 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-80-245-237.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:25 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@37.218.176.243] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:42 -!- poohbear is now known as retardosaur 10:44 -!- arthurl [~arthurl@c-76-117-135-15.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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or just let each round proceed on its own ---- or continuous selection where you take out some smaples and amplify whatever you like while the rounds are still going (as long as your system doesn't stall itself out of course.....) 13:57 -!- ProfSechs [~Megamind@135-23-79-18.cpe.pppoe.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:10 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:13 -!- anoncicada [anoncicada@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-liyaniqlkxvyisqo] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:45 -!- sandeepkr__ [~sandeepkr@111.235.65.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:47 < kanzure> "System architectures for space missions using molecular nanotechnology" http://www.islandone.org/MMSG/McKendreeThesis95/PhdRsrchProp.html 14:53 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:8c13:3e7d:843:2b56] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:53 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:8c13:3e7d:843:2b56] has quit [Changing host] 14:53 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:58 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:58 -!- sandeepkr__ [~sandeepkr@103.49.155.114] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:30 < kanzure> docl: btw you were't around back when paul was writing endless emails to us, so you might have missed some of these: http://www.pdfernhout.net/ 15:36 < kanzure> hrm his 180 page job application to wordpress. hrm. 15:47 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:8c13:3e7d:843:2b56] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:47 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:8c13:3e7d:843:2b56] has quit [Changing host] 15:47 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:52 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:52 -!- kenn123 [~kenn123@CPEf0f2490c77c3-CMf0f2490c77c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:03 < kanzure> hm. 16:12 -!- kenn123 [~kenn123@CPEf0f2490c77c3-CMf0f2490c77c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:13 -!- kenn123 [~kenn123@CPEf0f2490c77c3-CMf0f2490c77c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:18 -!- kenn123 [~kenn123@CPEf0f2490c77c3-CMf0f2490c77c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:19 -!- kenn123 [~kenn123@CPEf0f2490c77c3-CMf0f2490c77c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:22 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:8c13:3e7d:843:2b56] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:22 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:8c13:3e7d:843:2b56] has quit [Changing host] 16:22 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:23 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@213.200.193.129] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:29 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@213.200.193.129] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:35 < fenn> wondering about using enzymes to reverse aldehyde fixation 16:39 < fenn> maybe it would be easier to cleave if you used a fixative designed to be cleaved off with enzymes 16:39 < fenn> instead of a tiny molecule 16:46 < fenn> "Give me a trillion bodies on chips. I'll solve death." 16:51 < fenn> kent ranting about bodies on chips https://www.facebook.com/kent.kemmish/posts/10101875737533842 16:51 < kanzure> "We will build a series of massive largely automated research facilities in which we will guide the evolution of molecular constructs delivered to autologously derived organ systems on chips." 16:52 < kanzure> "We will design our monolithic industrial facilities for a total capacity of trillions of individually addressable and manipulable organ systems, theoretically enabling throughput levels at which every human being on earth would be biomedically represented by hundreds of autologously derived organ systems each grown under different experimental conditions and subjected to continuous massively high-throughput pharmacological engineering ... 16:52 < kanzure> ... guided by comprehensive molecular, cellular, and physiological characterization." 16:53 < kanzure> alright well this is trivial. wire that up to in vitro selection stuff and problem solved. however, i think that this is missing out on gene therapy and "well the program is clearly buggy, so just fix the program itself instead of changing usability" 16:54 < kanzure> like if your system is so broken that you need large-scale mouse programs to evolve cryonics-compatible organisms, and you need large-scale in vitro selection projects wired up to billions of organoids and tissue cultures, then *maybe* you should recommend migrating away from biology in general, rather than trying to fix all the brokenness 16:56 < fenn> i dont get how they're going to approximate an immune system on a chip 16:56 < gradstudentbot> I am sponsored by George Whitesides. 16:57 < fenn> oh, well in that case... 16:57 < kanzure> aren't there only a few hundred archetypes (plus lots of variation for individual acquired immunity things) 16:57 < fenn> yeah the problem is the huge amount of acquired variation that causes auto immune diseases 16:58 < fenn> millions of different clonal populations of b-cells 16:58 < kanzure> also, instead of approximating everyone else's immune system, what about just coercing everyone into an immune system monoculture. and then only focus on those people. 16:58 < fenn> that's a recipe for extinction 16:59 < kanzure> that's only because we suck at building immunity so far other than sheer randomness 16:59 < kanzure> and population size 16:59 < kanzure> and diversity 16:59 < fenn> diversity is anti-fragility 16:59 < kanzure> no screw that, if one person can be immune to something, so can the rest of 'em 16:59 < fenn> they have to dump gigatons of pesticide on monoculture crops just so they don't die 17:00 < fenn> and bananas are constantly in mortal peril 17:00 < fenn> (a clonal population) 17:00 < kanzure> it's much faster to run toxins against immunological screening in a centralized manner, and then distirbute immune system upgrades to your population (which seems to be more feasible when they have the same immune system types) 17:01 < fenn> sure i'm all for downloadable immunity 17:01 < kanzure> you should centralize all the diversity instead of pushing it to the edges 17:02 < kanzure> and i think we could do centralized mutagenesis and construction of novel immunities at a much larger scale than VDJ with TdT in humans. TdT suuucks. it's useful but it sucks and i think we can do better. 17:03 < kanzure> those crop monocultures probably suck because they aren't doing downloadable anything with those crops. just spray-n-pray. 17:05 -!- balrog [~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:05 < kanzure> there are non-small-molecule fixatives that function like aldehyde? 17:05 < fenn> i don't know 17:06 < fenn> i'd guess that any dialdehyde would work 17:06 < kanzure> who is our taxidermy person? 17:06 < fenn> glutaraldehyde is used for tissue fixation, but it's not that much bigger really 17:10 -!- balrog [~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:22 -!- ProfSechs [~Megamind@135-23-79-18.cpe.pppoe.ca] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:36 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:38 -!- ProfSechs [~Megamind@135-23-79-18.cpe.pppoe.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:05 -!- augur [~augur@50-254-147-77-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:17 -!- augur [~augur@50-254-147-77-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:17 -!- augur [~augur@50-254-147-77-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:24 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:35 -!- justan0theruser is now known as justanotheruser 18:43 < kanzure> what how did meetlog.yaml.txt.git not have "phage display" in any previous conversation? 18:47 -!- augur [~augur@50-254-147-77-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:48 -!- augur [~augur@50-254-147-77-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:48 -!- arthurl [~arthurl@c-76-117-135-15.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:48 -!- arthurl [~arthurl@c-76-117-135-15.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 18:49 < kanzure> "Subpoena denied: Harvard’s George Church won’t have to testify in CRISPR patent dispute" https://www.statnews.com/2016/09/16/crispr-patent-george-church-subpoena/ 18:50 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:21c9:9754:c4d3:c70d] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:50 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:21c9:9754:c4d3:c70d] has quit [Changing host] 18:50 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:58 < fenn> he probably will anyway 19:02 < fenn> "protein transistor" 19:02 < fenn> is that for real 19:03 < kanzure> from the retracted dna polymerase for dna sequencing paper? 19:03 < fenn> by yu shiun chen? 19:03 < fenn> there's a patent too 19:03 < kanzure> https://ir.nctu.edu.tw/bitstream/11536/22351/1/000319979400018.pdf 19:03 < kanzure> patent is from pacbio 19:04 < kanzure> the chen paper was retracted because the performance is impossible (50 kb reads better than last gen dna sequencing?) 19:04 < kanzure> (superconductance?) 19:04 < fenn> they really should have a huge "RETRACTED" stamp over the entire article. it's not very obvious that it has been retracted 19:05 < kanzure> still, it's an interesting concept even if it was retracted 19:05 < fenn> yes 19:05 < kanzure> also, since pacbio wanted to do something similar, it seems less likely to be completely shit 19:05 < fenn> during my conspiracy theory days i read various papers about DNA being superconducting 19:05 < kanzure> https://www.google.com/patents/US20150065353 19:07 -!- sandeepkr__ [~sandeepkr@103.49.155.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:07 < fenn> did i mention i hate patents 19:09 < fenn> .title http://google.com/patents/US8697469 19:09 < yoleaux> Patent US8697469 - Protein transistor device - Google Patents 19:10 < fenn> seems like it could work 19:11 < kanzure> if you had read the draft you would have seen this in there :P 19:23 < fenn> who is CodeWarrior? (DIYbio) 19:28 < fenn> in UK apparently 19:33 -!- ProfSechs [~Megamind@135-23-79-18.cpe.pppoe.ca] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:43 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-chwyhuphhjwykukx] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:46 < kanzure> fenn: it's "peter graham clark" http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/DNA/A%20hypothetical%20protocol%20for%20DIYBIO%20DNA%20synthesis.pdf 19:48 -!- esmerelda [~mabel@unaffiliated/jacco] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:55 -!- ProfSechs_ [~Megamind@135-23-79-18.cpe.pppoe.ca] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:56 < JayDugger> maaku, the "make much money fast" problem has many high-risk solutions. 19:58 -!- ProfSechs [~Megamind@135-23-79-18.cpe.pppoe.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:02 -!- SDr [~SDr@unaffiliated/sdr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:05 -!- kenn123 [~kenn123@CPEf0f2490c77c3-CMf0f2490c77c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: Away for too long: http://ibinary.com/libas] 20:08 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:10 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@101.177.254.142] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:10 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@101.177.254.142] has quit [Changing host] 20:10 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:32 -!- anoncicada [anoncicada@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-liyaniqlkxvyisqo] has quit [Changing host] 20:32 -!- anoncicada [anoncicada@unaffiliated/anarcanon] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:32 -!- anoncicada [anoncicada@unaffiliated/anarcanon] has quit [Changing host] 20:32 -!- anoncicada [anoncicada@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-liyaniqlkxvyisqo] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:43 -!- ProfSechs_ [~Megamind@135-23-79-18.cpe.pppoe.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:50 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:51 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-005-222-194.178.005.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:54 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@101.177.254.142] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:54 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@101.177.254.142] has quit [Changing host] 20:54 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:01 < kanzure> 51fec4dbf6bc823f5c258ca93b961a9ab9fc83d7 269d72f8eefcac04b7668cb110231c5fe344f25d fa2f4aab5deca1d6ca2e62950a8205f7411fe162 08f24121e12cd6a0a6c07be6bf2236abe545b79a 21:04 < gradstudentbot> Holy crap, I need to add that to my slide collection. 21:04 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:09 < kanzure> :facepalm: 21:46 < wrldpcmbl> 1M in 2 years? 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