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Does it actually make sense to start with Mars and not the moon? 06:13 < thesnark> radiation, bone loss from weightlessness(mars trip would take a long time as of now) 06:14 < thesnark> we still have so much work to do, a 10 year goal is fine but there is way more to deal with than transportation...if anything it's an exciting way to remotely control robots 06:32 < JayDugger> The post linked has fairly specific critiques. My "pet showstopper" doesn't get addressed in it though. 06:32 < JayDugger> To the extent the video generates enthusiasm, good. 06:39 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:45 -!- arthurl [~arthurl@c-76-117-135-15.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:45 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:45 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.252.91] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:45 -!- arthurl [~arthurl@c-76-117-135-15.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:48 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.252.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:56 -!- arthurl [~arthurl@c-76-117-135-15.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:56 -!- arthurl [~arthurl@172.56.37.217] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:02 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xsmkhkoiyroyqefk] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 07:24 < kanzure> bloop 07:24 < kanzure> thesnark: to be fair, he is aiming for an 80 day travel time 07:26 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:31 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:32 < thesnark> I hope he achieves his goal, I'm just skeptical that simply providing transport will be the same as colonizing a planet 07:32 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.252.91] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:33 < thesnark> Mars has an atmosphere so that helps the case for Mars 07:33 < thesnark> Who knows, maybe we could even find a way to turn it back into an earth-like planet 07:33 < thesnark> it's just not a problem that SpaceX is going to solve 07:34 < kanzure> if he delivers payload to mars, and people survive to some extent, i'm not sure it matters whether that's considered "colonization" 07:35 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.252.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:56 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@46.140.52.182] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:01 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everything too quickly, so you have to adjust both the replication rate of the virus but also the replication rate of the tissue culture? 08:14 < fenn> it doesnt matter if the tissue culture dies because you have more that hasn't been inoculated with the virus yet 08:16 < kanzure> okay well, i think the ideal scenario is some kind of stable bioreactor production that does continuous production of the virus 08:16 < kanzure> surely there is a cell-free virus synthesis approach somewhere.. 08:20 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.252.91] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:23 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.252.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:32 < Aurelius_Home> welp, the move to Redmond starts next Tuesday 08:32 < kanzure> whatcha landing at? 08:32 < Aurelius_Home> remote work for now 08:32 < Aurelius_Home> it's pretty low effort, I'm taking a few months to improve my data science skills and pick up some consulting gigs 08:34 < Aurelius_Home> Sami is talking to Amazon and Google 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AE9wZW5UaW1lc3RhbXBzAABQcm9vZgC/ieLohOiSlAEIuQOZnU3sCPGyaUkKkAFP/pd62aaYbGYE56e/5gnvN//wEGinDYiD/SA5OeyaDvH/rYII//AQKjm+y05HNXg5Qvr3Q/vCsAjxBFfpXNnwCBaSOIeVI2xYAIPf4w0u+QyOLCtodHRwczovL2JvYi5idGMuY2FsZW5kYXIub3BlbnRpbWVzdGFtcHMub3Jn8BC346d+xG985BFKy63VQOfOCPEEV+lc2PAIWewviqvLJ1gAg9/jDS75DI4uLWh0dHBzOi8vYWxpY2UuYnRjLmNhbGVuZGFyLm9wZW50aW1lc3RhbXBzLm9yZw== 14:56 < kanzure> http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/11/hacking-the-presidents-dna/309147/ 14:57 < kanzure> "So, in November of 2016, when a first-time visitor with the handle Cap’n Capsid posted a challenge on the viral-design site 99Virions, no alarms sounded; his was just one of the 100 or so design requests submitted that day" 14:57 < kanzure> i guess we should put up a virus design site to make sure that happens on time 15:04 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@46.140.52.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:11 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-005-222-194.178.005.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 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