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00:22 < nmz787_> huh, this looks really cool... https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2029950924/holovect-holographic-vector-display
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00:43 < archels_> kanzure, JayDugger : wasn't convinced by that "synapses are not the locus of memory" paper
00:44 < archels_> of course epigenetics/various forms of RNA-floating-around-the-cell expression are also a part of "memory", but it might have been more beneficial to try and integrate these two phenomena rather than dismissing synapses almost entirely
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01:49 < archels_> can anyone recommend a simple measure to quantify the deviation from uniform in a discrete probability distribution?
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05:12  * adlai sees line numbers on the synapse-demise paper; blinks twice, they're still there!
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06:03 < kanzure> yes freecad is highly coupled to opencascade
06:04 < JayDugger> Not quite right, archels_. That was a sincere thank you.
06:05 < JayDugger> I was a little skeptical of the Dark Forest analogy for machine learning.
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10:44 < kanzure> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmWmRQ1_uAE&t=1m30s
10:46 < kanzure> timelapse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L32wC2qNAY
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11:07 < nmz787_i> http://ff.tu-sofia.bg/~bogi/France/SoftEng/books/Addison%20Wesley%20-%20Robert%20L%20Glass%20-%20Facts%20and%20Fallacies%20of%20Software%20Engineering.pdf
11:11 < abetusk> nmz787_i, that holographic KS is the second.  I remember seeing the first a while ago.  It looks like the first campaign failed and then they tried for a second for less money
11:20 < nmz787_i> http://www.robotics.org/content-detail.cfm/Industrial-Robotics-Industry-Insights/Calculating-Your-ROI-for-Robotic-Automation-Cost-vs-Cash-Flow/content_id/5285
11:20 < nmz787_i> abetusk: huh, I read some facebook comment that mentioned something like that, the person wondered if patents could have been an issue why the campaign failed (or got pulled off)
11:21 < nmz787_i> abetusk: it certainly looks cool
11:21 < nmz787_i> seems like practical applications could be found quickly... but if the image is noisy, then I guess there might be quickly found limitations too
11:26 < abetusk> they say 'open source' but I'm not sure I believe them.  And however they mean open source, doesn't mean they mean open source hardware
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11:38 < fenn> "open source" in this case means "we have an API"
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11:41 < nmz787_i> yeah the SDK
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11:41 < nmz787_i> better than "deal with our file format and wait til we finally update it when we get around to it"
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11:45 < fenn> it looks cool but i still don't quite get how it works
11:45 < fenn> why do they say "it raises the albedo of air"?
11:45 < fenn> doesn't it work by heating up the air?
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11:48 < fenn> also i don't get why they are marketing it as a vector display if it has arbitrary voxel capability
11:49 < nmz787_i> seems like that or maybe speed of air differences, pressure diffs?
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11:49 < fenn> oh the venturi effect, right
11:49 < nmz787_i> fenn: my guess is lack of software/firmware capabilites
11:49 < nmz787_i> vector is easier to code or something
11:51 < fenn> i wonder if a 2D MEMS laser projector would have a larger number of simultaneously displayable points
11:54 < fenn> geez that must be a lot of valves
11:56 < fenn> maybe it's like a mechanical television with a spinning disk with a spiral pattern of holes in it that let the air through
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12:53 < kanzure> sci-hub.ac
12:55 < juri_> new release of ImplicitCAD; 1/8th the memory usage, 3% less CPU used, and more precise! ;)
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13:17 < kanzure> "In vivo correction of anaemia in β-thalassemic mice by γPNA-mediated gene editing with nanoparticle delivery" http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms13304
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13:59 < maaku> holovec is freaking awesome.. but if i was actually doing something that required 3D interaction, I'm certain I would prefer VR goggles
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14:01 < maaku> fenn: it looks like an actual vector display to me? I presume they are moving the focal point of the laser according to the geometry they are rendering
14:01 < maaku> otherwise lines would look a lot more boxy
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14:14 < kanzure> (respirocytes) "In Freitas' proposal, each respirocyte could store and transport 236 times more oxygen than a natural red blood cell, and could release it in a more controlled manner [...] "Such respirocytes would allow an adult human to sprint at top speed for at least 15 minutes without taking a breath.[3]"
14:14 < kanzure> i misquoted that as "one breath every 3 weeks" oops
14:17 < kanzure> someone asks "what about carbon dioxide?" --- i think the obvious solution is farting
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14:52 < nmz787_i1> juri_: maybe you could run my implicitcad tests that I wrote a while ago... I might be able to try later this evening... I remember it didn't yield very good results on export
14:52 < nmz787_i1> depending on the resolution setting I think
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14:56 < nmz787_i1> juri_:  https://github.com/nmz787/microfluidic-cad/tree/master/implicitCAD
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15:43 < juri_> checking it out now.
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15:58 < kanzure> .wik cerebral gigantism
15:58 < yoleaux> "Sotos syndrome (cerebral gigantism or Sotos-Dodge syndrome) is a rare genetic disorder characterized by excessive physical growth during the first years of life. Excessive growth often starts in infancy and continues into the early teen years." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebral_gigantism
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17:06 < kanzure> some sort of weirdo catalog of mit machining resources https://project-manus.mit.edu/about-mobius
17:10 < fenn>  "makerspaces"
17:10 < fenn> who the hell decided that was a word
17:15 < kanzure> probably media lab. they are the dark hand behind everything, after all.
17:15 < fenn> i bet it was someone at o'reilly media
17:15 < fenn> because "hacker" is too scary for school administrators to even contemplate
17:17 < kanzure> cc nsh
17:17 < fenn> i like their machine operations ontology (so far, but it's woefully incomplete) https://project-manus.mit.edu/machine-capabilities-visual-glossary
17:19 < fenn> "Maker Bucks can only be spent in the MIT makerspaces on making."
17:20 < fenn> it's pretty hard to take seriously any talk of a "Maker Revolution" happening at a leading engineering university
17:20 < fenn> like, that's your fucking job
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18:25 < abetusk> I could see it helping some 'maker revolution', but often they restrict access to students and discourage the wider community from participating
19:42 < juri_> as a member of nation of makers, and the runner of a hackerspace... yeah.
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22:16 < kanzure> how big is pubmedcentral.gov supposed to be
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