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00:53 < fenn> how do i save the source from a page that dynamically updates its content with jquery? i'm trying to save the list of people who endorsed this: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/transhumanists-disavow-zoltan-istvan-candidacy
00:53 < fenn> but i can only get the first 19 signers
00:54 < fenn> i've had this problem before and only solved it with stupid methods that didn't really work
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04:17 < kanzure> you could use mitmproxy
04:18 < kanzure> and chrome/firefix prolly has "save all network traffic for pcap analysis reasons" these days
04:19 < kanzure> adderall is mostly orange
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04:34 < cluckj> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/diybio/oYZ-8M5NJbU
04:34 < cluckj> .title
04:35 < cluckj> whatever, you stupid bot. it's an MS about european biohackers and the pharmaceutical industry
04:37 < cluckj> I haven't gotten through the whole thing, but the case study is interesting
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04:46 < cluckj> missing a bunch of sources I would have used
04:46 < cluckj> that's okay I guess...
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04:52 < kanzure> dpk is still killded, yoleaux wont be back until dpk is fixed
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04:53 < cluckj> oh :(
04:53 < kanzure> "CVE-2016-8655 Linux af_packet.c race condition (local root)" http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2016/q4/607
04:54 < streety> fenn: the call to get more is http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/transhumanists-disavow-zoltan-istvan-candidacy/ajaxGetSignatures?petition_id=687797&offset=15
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04:54 < streety> unfortunately it returns html so a pain to work with
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06:45 < JayDugger> Hmm....my coworkers seem no smarter. I must have not have carried out my threat to put nootropics in the city water supply.
06:52 < docl> Or maybe you used a non-water-soluble nootropic :/
06:54 < kanzure> reproducible builds for windows https://github.com/jasonwhite/ducible
06:58 < cluckj> maybe they just got relatively smarter, with you along with them
06:58 < cluckj> the difference being imperceptible...
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07:43 < JayDugger> I like the way you wishfully think, cluckj.
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08:28 < cluckj> it's an occupational hazard
08:31 < kanzure> /////////////////
08:31 < kanzure> ffff
08:35 < jcorgan> what are you *really* saying, kanzure
08:36 < kanzure> ssh problems
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08:52 < CaptHindsight> http://www.lifenginetech.com/
08:53 < kanzure> neat, TALENs kits
08:53 < CaptHindsight> http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/pdf/10.1089/hum.2015.172
08:54 < CaptHindsight> unfortunately they used Opentrons that unfortunately used a smoothie
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09:02 < kanzure> http://talendesign.com/
09:03 < kanzure> http://blog.opentrons.com/user-story-lifengine/
09:04 < CaptHindsight> looks like I have to get to groups like this before they get too invested in dead end solutions
09:04 < nmz787_w> juri_: where does implicitCad rotate about? seems to me it must be (x,y,z) (0,0,0)
09:05 < kanzure> i think either CaptHindsight or nmz787_w  was looking at the opentrons json format
09:06 < CaptHindsight> that tool won't be popular until it works like the ones the boys used in Weird Science
09:08 < CaptHindsight> kanzure: I was looking into how to convert all the programs for the opterons to G-code
09:09 < CaptHindsight> what non programmer bio techs need is an easy to use programming interface
09:09 < kanzure> i dunno, biologists have lots of problems with computers.   go find a biologist and watch them try to use a computer.  they do everything they can to escape the computer as soon as possible.
09:10 < CaptHindsight> maybe a gamepad with learn mode
09:11 < CaptHindsight> canned routines would just be button presses
09:11 < CaptHindsight> like "Hotdog" on a microwave
09:14 < nmz787_w> I think repetetive use is key to any of these really complex workflows
09:15 < __mz_o> while still offering flexibility for those willing to venture/for the more technically inclined
09:16 < __mz_o> buttons are cool. but buttons/presets you can change are just as cool
09:16 < nmz787_w> that tool won't get popular if there isn't some professor pushing it for research projects with his students, or if they (professor or company) don't have research funding to pay someone who uses it during their workflow.... or if the experimental side doesn't get cheaper such that there is obvious benefit to using it
09:17 < __mz_o> right
09:17 < __mz_o> i think that coincides with being effectiveness and ease-of-use
09:17 < kanzure> weird thing is that, if a professor tells the biologist to go learn some programming, the grad student definitely will go learn /some/ programming
09:17 < __mz_o> but just enough to get by
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09:32 < CaptHindsight> or part of a poopstarter project to make your own gene mods
09:34 < __mz_o> "custom
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09:34 < __mz_o> "custom" gene mods
09:35 < __mz_o> hey one day someone will create an interpreter to understand psuedocode
09:36 < __mz_o> or maybe im just thinking of python ..
09:37 < CaptHindsight> https://opentrons.com/protocol-library/
09:39 < CaptHindsight> canned "protocols"
09:40 < CaptHindsight> needs more features like inkjet and machine vision
09:40 < CaptHindsight> same machines can "tissue engineer"
09:42 < CaptHindsight> "Gepetto make proboscis, size large, color red, shape round"
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09:48 < __mz_o> is the fusX the tissue engineering protocol?
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09:52 < Urchin> I write my pseudocode in C
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09:55 < __mz_o> what are you a communist?
09:59 < nmz787_w> __mz_o: seems for TALEN creation
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10:11 < CaptHindsight> inkjet dna synthesizer using photocleavable terminators, cappers and linkers
10:12 < kanzure> ya
10:12 < kanzure> needs DMD micromirror array projector thingy
10:13 < kanzure> easy to get, the chemistry is the tricky part
10:13 < CaptHindsight> the chem is simple
10:14 < CaptHindsight> waiting to see what the supreme court does with the violations induced abroad
10:15 < CaptHindsight> they ruled in favor of Samsung today
10:16 < CaptHindsight> I've been using LCD's vs DMD's
10:17 < CaptHindsight> less blocking, easier to use and lower cost
10:18 < CaptHindsight> easy and hard is relative..
10:19 < CaptHindsight> like I used to tell my kids when they asked about how hard something was, "it depends on who is doing it"
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10:27 < chris_99> using lcd for what out of interest?
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10:30 < kanzure> oh, sure, LCD vs DMD doesn't matter for photo DNA synthesis, both have been used successfully
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11:23 < darsie> Diamond is hard.
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12:24 < __mz_o> .help
12:24 < __mz_o> .tell
12:25 < __mz_o> .title
12:25 < __mz_o> what happened to the bot?
12:25 < __mz_o> and is there a help menu?
12:28 < kanzure> bot is dead pending ressurrection of dpk
12:31 < nmz787_w> darsie: diamond is combustible too ;)
12:31 < __mz_o> dpk?
12:31 < __mz_o> dread pirate king?
12:31 < kanzure> dpk is the operator of yoleaux
12:31 < __mz_o> ahh
12:32 < __mz_o> okay i thank you
12:32 < __mz_o> nmz787_w: mm thats interesting ;)
12:32 < chris_99> nmz787_w, heh at what temp?
12:34 < chris_99> ' You can even burn diamond in a regular flame if you are patient and conditions are right. ' interessant
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12:42 < kanzure> 12:38 <+sbp> MAKES ZEBRAS  OVULATE
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13:04 < nmz787_w> chris_99: not sure, but I heard stories about diamonds disappearing after housefires
13:04 < nmz787_w> (i assume from locked safes, etc)
13:04 < chris_99> yeah seems around 900C
13:04 < chris_99> i thought it'd be a lot higher for some reason
13:05 < chris_99> i was reading something they're now 30% cheaper to lab grow them
13:05 < chris_99> than mine
13:05 < __mz_o> i thought that was always the case
13:05 < chris_99> maybe because mining is cartelish though?
13:06 < chris_99> oh not sure __mz_o
13:06 < chris_99> i think the quality has got a lot better from what i was reading wrt ones for jewellery
13:06 < __mz_o> yea i doubt there are many regulatory agencies scutinizing over that kind of stuff
13:07 < kanzure> "Parallelizing word2vec in multi-core and many-core architectures" https://arxiv.org/abs/1611.06172
13:07 < nmz787_w> yahoo answers : "For diesels the air temperature at the end of compression is 450 to 675?C. Peak temperatures during burning are like 2030?C"
13:07 < nmz787_w> idk if that's reliable or not, I mention it because the diesel fuel injectors I just installed on my car have DLC (diamond like coating)
13:08 < nmz787_w> and I immediately began wondering how the coating didn't burn off, and started wondering if the DLC was a marketing gimmick
13:09 < __mz_o> "diamond-like"
13:09 < __mz_o> sounds like ceramic lol
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14:12 < docl> What are some good sources regarding plasma based electrodynamic separation of elements?
14:17 < streety> nmz787_w: a combination of heatsinking and reduced oxygen at peak temperatures?
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14:26 < nmz787_w> streety: lack of oxygen is a good point, heatsinking is what I imagine also might keep the core temp higher than the edge
14:27 < nmz787_w> __mz_o: I think it is more that there are some lattice breaks/disjunctions, more than normal diamond, but otherwise the lattice is similar enough to diamond
14:27 < nmz787_w> __mz_o: as far as I know, ceramics are metal oxides, while diamond is pure carbon
14:38 < docl> https://www.google.com/patents/US5630880
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15:04 < kanzure> kelu124: greetings
15:06 < kanzure> kelu124: what is the current status of murgen?
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15:09 < kanzure> yoleaux: .title https://www.google.com/patents/US5630880
15:09 < kanzure> .title https://www.google.com/patents/US5630880
15:09 < yoleaux> Patent US5630880 - Method and apparatus for a large volume plasma processor that can utilize ... - Google Patents
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16:13 < nmz787_w> kanzure: looks alive https://hackaday.io/project/9281/logs/sort/newest
16:17 < nmz787_w> oh, I see the github committer is the person you prefixed on that chat line
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17:13 < kanzure> yes
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17:42 < docl> The LVPP patent was referenced from this article promoting what it calls a 'fusion torch' http://archive.larouchepac.com/node/14726
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17:58 < docl> "In May 1969, two researchers with the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission, Bernard J. Eastlund and William C. Gough, published a booklet, The Fusion Torch: Closing the Cycle from Use to Reuse, which described two uses for the ultra-high temperature plasmas that were expected to be achieved with commercial fusion reactors."
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