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05:24 < kanzure> some comments about htc vive and VR stuff https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13392885
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05:39 < kanzure> .title https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5nulg8/balaji_srinivasan_21_ceo_just_deleted_his_whole/
05:39 < yoleaux> Balaji Srinivasan (21 CEO) just deleted his whole tweet history. Heading to the FDA? : Bitcoin
05:41 < kanzure> balaji tweet, "Why care about the FDA so much? Well, whether you want a new drug or to get to transhumanism they are the man to beat - or escape, via exit."
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05:55 < JayDugger> Heh, heh, heh...so the confirmation hearing will talk about all those crazy >H types?
06:00 < JayDugger> At some point I'll have to search out latency numbers for Vive and Oculus.
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07:26 < abetusk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKR5nrJtj08
07:26 < abetusk> .title
07:26 < yoleaux> OpenDropper - Frogger 8bit Game on Digital Microfluidics Device - YouTube
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07:50 < fenn> "Mormyrids might be Pok?mon: Can we see 'evolution' within a single individual?"
07:50 < fenn> "a weakly electric fish that has an electric organ similar to the Mormyrid larval electric organ in location and discharge complexity"
07:51 < kanzure> pokemon evolution looks a lot more like insect metamorphisis and larval growth stuff
07:52 < kanzure> *mtamorphosis
07:54 < kanzure> .. *metamorphosis
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08:04 < fenn> hmm. balaji srinivasan has 47000 twitter followers and no wikipedia page?
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08:04 < kanzure> balaji is from a16z and stanford stuff
08:05 < fenn> that doesn't really say anything about who he is
08:05 < fenn> apparently he is a CEO of a bitcoin company
08:05 < fenn> what does this have to do with FDA?
08:05 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOubCHLXT6A
08:05 < yoleaux> Balaji Srinivasan at Startup School 2013 - YouTube
08:05 < kanzure> just watch that :P
08:06 < kanzure> no he was a venture capitalist at a16z, also raised $120M for his own bitcoin company.
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08:26 < kanzure> http://www.oregoncryo.com/researchCoolingRates.html
08:26 < fenn> welp balaji gets my vote for "czar"
08:28 < kanzure> to me it seemed a little like cheating for a venture capitalist to raise money from his VC buddies but w/e.
08:45 < JayDugger> If he gets confirmed for FDA, will his first act be to lift the current ban on ##hplusroadmap?
08:46 < kanzure> yeah we might have to change the /topic at that point
08:46 < kanzure> suggestions appreciated
08:47 < kanzure> currently it is:
08:47 < kanzure> -!- Topic for ##hplusroadmap: biohacking, nootropics, transhumanism, open hardware | sponsored by lobsters everywhere, banned by the Federal Death Administration (5 times) | this channel is LOGGED: http://gnusha.org/logs | http://diyhpl.us/wiki | "ray kurzweil is a pessimist" - george church
08:48 < JayDugger> There's probably a joke in there somewhere about drugs approved for off-label uses, but generally banned. The only one that comes to mind is thalidomide, though.
08:49 < kanzure> really if balaji gets appointed, we should convert hplusroadmap into a gene therapy app store startup
08:49 < JayDugger> Perhaps just drop the ban counter by one?
08:50 < kanzure> you're quite the pessimist
08:50 < JayDugger> I do like your idea better.
08:51 < fenn> with an iphone add-on that plugs into the headphone port
08:51 < fenn> oh wait they got rid of that too
08:51 < JayDugger> Now who's the pessimist?
08:52 < fenn> i sort of like the idea of transmitting DNA by audio
08:52 < fenn> this crazy new music is infecting our children!!oneone
08:52 < kanzure> with really cheap genome synthesis, i think we would see somethig like a cambrian explosion of novel bacteria and novel critters roaming around
08:53 < kanzure> (maybe even enough to make up for the catastrophic loss of biodiversity we've seen in the past ~50 years)
08:53 < fenn> you think you can beat wild type bacteria at their own game?
08:53 < kanzure> bruteforce is like playing their game
08:53 < kanzure> and then custom DNA is like downloading entropy from the internet... so yes, i think we will be better at injecting novelty.
08:53 < fenn> their computational capacity is higher
08:54 < kanzure> bruteforce just means you have your own cell cultures. it's the same thing.
08:54 < fenn> oh, i thought you meant "RNG on a CPU printing DNA"
08:54 < kanzure> pressures & mutagenesis can be applied much more rapidly by people than by environments..... there's like a billion hours/day spent on cat photo variations alone.
08:54 < kanzure> "RNG on a CPU" for *parts* of the genome, not the whole damn thing
08:55 < fenn> there are natural mutagens too ya know
08:55 < kanzure> if you know that position 357-359 is chemically relevant to some problem, then yes you should synthesize all the permutations for those positions, duh
08:55 < kanzure> yes there are
08:55 < fenn> i wonder if anyone has discovered prokaryotic introns/exons yet
08:56 < JayDugger> Don't exons code for proteins? Did I miss something?
08:57 < fenn> it's an editing process for any RNA sequence
08:57 < fenn> apparently bacterial introns are nothing new and i was just badly educated
08:58 < fenn> anyway certain genome regions are highly conserved and other regions are rapidly changing
08:58 < fenn> so there appears to be some intentionality to the mutagenicity of any given region
08:59 < kanzure> WWC1 memory enhancement mechaism should be further studied. it might be the case that some "rational design" could further boost its performance.
09:00 < kanzure> or, rather, we should also look at all the homologs in all the animals for WWC1 and test some WWC1 chimeras
09:00 < kanzure> *mechanism
09:00 < fenn> what is the antonym for "conserved region"
09:01 < kanzure> segregating site?
09:02 < fenn> how about "accelerated" it sounds cooler
09:03 < fenn> "diversified"
09:05 < kanzure> in those slides, i am not particularly happy with the quality of the nootropics idea
09:05 < kanzure> maze solving just seems unlikely to focus on relevant brain capabilities.... when i run a maze, i don't feel like important cognitive skills are getting tested.
09:06 < fenn> that's because you already have the important cognitive skills
09:06 < kanzure> maze solving is a one shot thing?
09:06 < kanzure> er, maze solving capability
09:07 < fenn> i mean we already have a wide array of competencies that are so efficient and automatic we are not even aware of them happening
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09:10 < kanzure> it's strange that 15k years of selection on dogs from human influence isn't enough to get dogs speaking. i guess we weren't trying. and also human cognitive skills was probably at least ~200k years in the making. (although i am hopeful that there was rapid acceleration near recent history)
09:10 < kanzure> anyway, i am not impressed by other methods of nootropic design, and i'm skeptical about maze solving.
09:10 < fenn> humans have applied lots of pressure to prevent other animals from becoming intelligent
09:11 < kanzure> it's not like we threw out all the smart dogs
09:12 < fenn> the usual proxy for "smart dog" is "how long does it take to train"
09:13 < fenn> but that's a totally different question
09:15 < fenn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Intelligence_of_Dogs
09:18 < kanzure> i like how the adaptive category is not listed on the page
09:19 < fenn> yeah it's because dog breeder's don't give a shit
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09:42 < kanzure> justanotheruser: why is veb bothering me
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10:21 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/mattocko/status/820086031848448001
10:21 < yoleaux> Prediction: we are less than 2 years away from CRISPR'd-up "coffamphetamine" beans ? https://twitter.com/JoseSci/status/820029547492032512 (@mattocko)
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10:22 < justan0theruser> kanzure: I think he is upset I have been ignoring him. He found you through my bitcoin web of trust
10:23 < kanzure> "Integrated control of predatory hunting by the central nucleus of the amygdala" http://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674%2816%2931743-3
10:24 < kanzure> "CeA projections to the reticular formation (PCRt) control biting attacks"
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10:24 < justan0theruser> do you have specific goal you're attempting to reach at the moment? A project or something
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10:25 < kanzure> justanotheruser: i am presenting in february at beacon-center.org here are some slides http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/2017-02-03-beacon-v002.pdf
10:28 < justanotheruser> this seems like your rate evolution setup without explicitly saying what it is
10:30 < justanotheruser> s/rate/rat/
10:30 < kanzure> yes, they are a research institution that funds directed evolution projects
10:30 < kanzure> "Using high-throughput barcode sequencing to efficiently map connectomes" http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/01/09/099093
10:30 < kanzure> "Here we present SYNseq, a method for converting the connectome into a form that can exploit the speed and low cost of modern high-throughput DNA sequencing. In SYNseq, each neuron is labeled with a unique random nucleotide sequence--an RNA "barcode"--which is targeted to the synapse using engineered proteins. Barcodes in pre- and postsynaptic neurons are then associated through protein-protei...
10:31 < kanzure> ...n crosslinking across the synapse, extracted from the tissue, and then joined into a form suitable for sequencing. Although at present the inefficiency in our hands of barcode joining precludes the widespread application of this approach, we expect that with further development SYNseq will enable tracing of complex circuits at high speed and low cost."
10:34 < justanotheruser> would you expect some pattern of brain eating to increase performance?e
10:34 < justanotheruser> or brain cysting
10:35 < kanzure> "To translate anatomical questions to a format amenable to sequencing, we label neurons uniquely with random nucleic acid sequences ("barcodes"). As a first proof of principle, we recently described MAPseq, a method for reading out long range projections with single neuron resolution [18] . In MAPseq, we infect neurons with a pool of barcoded virus particles and thus uniquely label e very ...
10:35 < kanzure> ...infected neuron with the barcode sequence carried by the viral particle that infected the neuron . The barcode is then expressed as an mRNA and is transported into axons, where we detect the barcode mRNA by sequencing as a proxy for the axonal projection of every labeled neuron. MAPseq allow s the simultaneous tracing of thousands and potentially millions of single neuron projections - prese...
10:36 < kanzure> ...nting a speedup of up to five order s of magnitude over traditional, microscopy - based methods . While MAPseq provides information about area - to - area connectivity at single neuron resolution, it does not provide s ingle - neuron information about neuron - to - neuron connectivity."
10:36 < kanzure> justanotheruser: yes
10:37 < kanzure> "Here, we introduce SYNseq, a method for converting synaptic connections into a form suitable for readout by high-throughput DNA sequencing. SYNseq consists of four steps: neuronal barcoding, trafficking of barcodes to the synapses via tight association with engineered synaptic proteins, joining of barcodes into a form suitable for sequencing, and reconstruction of the network connectivity (Fi...
10:37 < kanzure> ...g. 1). Briefly, a pre-synaptic mRNA barcode is trafficked to the presynaptic terminal via association with an engineered version of the Neurexin1B (Nrx1B) protein. Likewise, the postsynaptic barcode is trafficked to the postsynaptic terminal via association with a modified Neuroligin1AB (Nlg1AB) protein. Across a synapse, the presynaptic SYNseq components are covalently linked to the postsynap...
10:37 < kanzure> ...tic SYNseq components and then immunoprecipitated for further biochemical manipulation to link the pre- and postsynaptic barcodes."
10:42 < justanotheruser> what is area-to-area connectivity? does this mean it can describe the edges the axon is connected to, but not which edges they are?
10:43 < kanzure> mapseq was able to report on long-range area connectivity in the brain, but not individual neuronal/synaptic graph
10:44 < justanotheruser> not sure what long-range area connectivity means
10:45 < justanotheruser> I think my understanding of this is completely off because I'm imagining this as a graph in which the virus is located at a node
10:45 < kanzure> there are both short axons and long axons
10:45 < justanotheruser> and somehow it doens't know what its edges are, but it knows whats happening N degrees away, the "area", as it seems you're describing
10:46 < justanotheruser> so it is only aware of the connectivity by long axons?
10:46 < kanzure> oh sorry,
10:47 < kanzure> mapseq was mostly a technique for single neuron "staining" method
10:48 < justanotheruser> you label the neurons, then you exctract some information about the topology of the brain
10:49 < kanzure> here is the mapseq paper http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/High-throughput%20mapping%20of%20single%20neuron%20projections%20by%20sequencing%20of%20barcoded%20RNA%20-%202016.pdf
10:49 < justanotheruser> thanks
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10:49 < kanzure> synseq is their better v2
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11:05 < kanzure> .title
11:05 < yoleaux> kanzure: Sorry, that doesn't appear to be an HTML page.
11:05 < kanzure> .title https://streamable.com/la9m7
11:05 < yoleaux> SpaceX successfully lands first stage on Just Read The Instructions autonomous spaceport droneship - Streamable
11:05 < kanzure> (from today)
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11:20 < nmz787> kanzure: your slides seems to be missing 'improved/precision chemistry" for the 'About DNA' section
11:20 < nmz787> unless progress-as-usual is implied
11:21 < kanzure> which synthesis improvements are you talking about?
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11:23 < nmz787> just business-as-usual copolymer industry advances
11:24 < kanzure> describe? you mean the click chemistry stuff?
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11:26 < nmz787> that, ATRP, idk the others
11:26 < kanzure> .wik atom-transfer radical-polymerization
11:26 < yoleaux> "Atom transfer radical polymerization (ATRP) is an example of a reversible-deactivation radical polymerization. Like its counterpart, ATRA or atom transfer radical addition, it is a means of forming a carbon-carbon bond through a transition metal catalyst." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom-transfer_radical-polymerization
11:27 < nmz787> but I just mean, you could mention (unless you think it's obvious) that better micro/nanochemistry may improve the situation, any efficiency-seeking polymer synthesis groups would desire these advances for their own non-dna selfish reasons, etc
11:28 < nmz787> i.e. "we'll learn more through time on how to do chemistry better, such that existing methods improve/transform"
11:28 < kanzure> ah, okay. sure.
11:28 < nmz787> actually, I wonder what people are doing with carbon nanotubes
11:29 < nmz787> I know people have wanted to join and arrange them precisely for a while
11:29 < kanzure> i saw some CNTs-for-nanopore stuff
11:29 < kanzure> and delinquentme was in here a while back claiming to have an efficient method for carbon nanotube endjoining
11:29 < nmz787> I guess nanotubes can be different diameters?
11:30 < nmz787> has someone tried shoving DNA in there, or running the electrodensity numbers to see if they'd hate each other (i.e. push away, rather than attract or be unaffected)
11:30 < nmz787> mm
11:30 < kanzure> yes, the nanopore people have checked about DNA and carbon nanotubes
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12:36 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/petrzzz/status/815165813401550848
12:36 < yoleaux> Holiday fun - imaging the dendritic tree of a L2/3 pyramid simultaneously, thanks to this preprint from Na Ji http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2016/06/12/058495 https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/C1AL-rkWIAEDXct.mp4 (@petrzzz)
12:37 < kanzure> http://www.nature.com/news/gates-foundation-research-can-t-be-published-in-top-journals-1.21299
12:49 < cluckj> maybe they should re-evaluate what they mean by "top journals..."
13:07 < justan0theruser> I don't understand the problem here. Why can't they just publish to open access journals
13:08 < yashgaroth> ~prestige~
13:10 < cluckj> C.R.E.A.M.
13:14 < cluckj> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBwAxmrE194
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13:44 < kanzure> .title
13:44 < yoleaux> Wu-Tang Clan - C.R.E.A.M. - YouTube
13:44 < kanzure> yep...
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15:17 < kanzure> "Long-term Cre-mediated retrograde tagging of neurons using a novel recombinant pseudorabies virus" http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fnana.2014.00086/full
15:32 < nmz787> http://www.cnf.umcs.lublin.pl/pdfy/2006_08_HighRex_Imaging_CS_Titan_an.pdf
15:32 < nmz787> "The Titan therefore has redesigned electronics, which attain noise levels below 0.1ppm RMS. Such low noise levels are mandatory for a system that allows an information transfer down to deep sub-?ngstr?m levels. For an optimum use of the monochromator the high tension must be very stable, with a noise/ripple ratio below 0.1ppm RMS. Only with such stability it is possible to reach an energy resoluti
15:32 < nmz787> on of 0.15eV."
15:33 < nmz787> 1 angstrom resolution
15:33 < nmz787> position and chemical data
15:36 < nmz787> diamond to diamond atom distance in 110 plane is 89 picometers, less than a tenth of a nanometer
15:37 < nmz787> wow, the grain boundary is so cool
15:37 < kanzure> is this a TEM?
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15:40 < nmz787> yeah, scanning TEM (STEM
15:41 < nmz787> )
15:42 < nmz787> "In conventional (Scanning) Transmission Electron Microscopy (S/TEM) the image resolution is limited predominantly by the spherical aberration (Cs) of the objective lens of the microscope. By correcting the spherical aberration, the resolution is enhanced and images become easier to interpret. When equipped with a Cs-corrector, Titan(TM) 80-300 breaks the important 1 ?ngstr?m (100pm) barrier in lat
15:42 < nmz787> eral resolution and gives images with ...
15:42 < nmz787> ... unprecedented resolution."
15:42 < nmz787> I think someone in here worked for Nion
15:42 < nmz787> (they're mentioned in one of the graphics in that PDF)
15:58 < kanzure> i don't remember such a person
16:04 < nmz787> http://gnusha.org/logs/2016-01-21.log
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18:08 < kanzure> hrm
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22:03 < nmz787> https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89081502718;view=1up;seq=212
22:04 < nmz787> .title
22:04 < yoleaux> Techniques in experimental electronics. - Full View | HathiTrust Digital Library | HathiTrust Digital Library
22:04 < nmz787> first from this list: http://personal.inet.fi/koti/kristian.ukkonen/books/books.html
22:04 < nmz787> .title
22:04 < yoleaux> Books at KU
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23:04 < nmz787> .wa 10^-10 torr to micrograms per square micrometer
23:04 < yoleaux> nmz787: Sorry, no result!
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