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00:20 < archels> superkuh: heh, was just going to paste that
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03:31 < archels> Just to give a little intuition for exactly how fast your CPU runs (assuming ~3 GHz), a single cycle takes about as much time as it takes a photon to travel from your monitor to your eyeball.
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03:56 < CRM114> archels: this really puts into perspective how slow a lot of software written in Java is
03:56 < CRM114> ;)
04:14 < archels> haha
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06:41 < kanzure> 09309fjdqf90rfdafdaolohugv
06:46 < JayDugger> OTS timestamp, muscle spasm, or dropped keyboard?
06:48 < kanzure> brain tumor
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07:16 < juri_> so, my new number cruncher box is online. 32 cores, 256G of ram.
07:18 < chris_99> fancy :) what processor(s) is that?
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07:23 < juri_> amd 6367.
07:23 < juri_> two sockets, both populated.
07:23 < chris_99> ah cool
07:23 < chris_99> is that ddr3 or 4?
07:23 < juri_> 3e
07:25 < juri_> have haskell, have implicitcad. will grind for the future of humanity. ;)
07:26 < juri_> we just got a vacuum sensor for our SEM. now, to mount it, and test the vacuum quality in the machine.
07:36 < rkos> what do yall think about benjamin bratton
07:37 < chris_99> juri_, cool, have you got images from it?
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08:13 < juri_> not yet. just started crunching.
08:13 < juri_> oh, the sem. no, we're still reconditioning.
08:14 < chris_99> ahh
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10:03 < heath> juri_: if you ever get one of these, i'll gladly accept ssh access :) https://www.cavium.com/newsevents-GIGABYTE-announces-384-Core-2U-server-powered-by-Cavium-ThunderX-ARMv8-processors.html
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10:30 < nmz787_w> chris_99: I just read about these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lecher_lines  and was thinking it might be a cool image if you watched some traces in the Electron Microscope... might be some really cool visualization... like if the lines had audio running through or something
10:31 < chris_99> oh i saw that post on had about them, but yeah heh that'd be very interesting
10:31 < nmz787_w> yeah that's what I was reading
10:32 < nmz787_w> since the microscope scans an image, I guess it would be blurred unless the waves were standing while you imaged
10:34 < chris_99> ah hmm
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10:35 < chris_99> http://forensic.to/ENF%20processed.pdf thought this is cool, might have a play with implementing it
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11:27 < eb3c90> I've got a concept I would like to find writings about (if they exist).  I have the idea of a measuring the size of a terrarium civilisation. A terrarium civilisation is basically a technological  human civilisation that can run on just resources it has and the sunlight coming into it.
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11:28 < eb3c90> Currently the size of our terrarium civilisation is the entire earth, I think it would be good to shrink it.
11:28 < eb3c90> ^ do such writings exist
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11:43 < Urchin> eb3c90: are you looking for something along the lines of a natural experiment?
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11:48 < eb3c90> Urchin: Hmm, I'm not quite sure If I'm getting where you are coming from. I shall try and explain, there are lots of measures of humanity technology in terms of size  (e.g. Kardashev scale) I was wondering if there were measurements in terms of our resiliency and dispersability.
11:49 < Urchin> eb3c90: I don't think there is
11:50 < Urchin> eb3c90: the closest thing I can think of would basically be remnants of failed civilizations that reached perfect equilibrium with the local ecosystems and ludditism passed on as sage wisdom
11:51 < Urchin> eb3c90: I suppose such societies keep working because they're at rock bottom and staying there
11:54 < kanzure> eb3c90: http://www.molecularassembler.com/KSRM.htm
11:57 < eb3c90> Kanzure: Yeah nano-tech is definitely near the end-game of that development path. I'm wondering whether we will have a phase of microfactories/micro-recyclers first, when they are both no longer constrained to be human scale so they can be fixed/observed by their human maintainers.
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11:58 < kanzure> no i don't mean nanotech, look at the page
11:59 < eb3c90> Kanzure: Ah cool. I saw merkle and freitas, molecularassembler and auto-completed.
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12:22 < poppingtonic> Self-replicating machines of this kind would definitely make civilisation extremely resilient, if the resultant sub-communities had good co-ordination mechanisms and at least tried to avoid warlike Nash equilibria.
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12:23 < poppingtonic> Imagine every few hundred miles there was a MIT Centre for Bits and Atoms, or a Noisebridge.
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13:50 < heath> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0962biiZa4
13:50 < yoleaux> Superintelligence: Science or Fiction? | Elon Musk & Other Great Minds - YouTube
13:53 < heath> "Elon Musk, Stuart Russell, Ray Kurzweil, Demis Hassabis, Sam Harris, Nick Bostrom, David Chalmers, Bart Selman, and Jaan Tallinn discuss with Max Tegmark (moderator) what likely outcomes might be if we succeed in building human-level AGI, and also what we would like to happen."
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14:00 < poppingtonic> From KSRM, p. 13: ''An amusing example: 'In the reformatory at Caserta, Italy, as guards watched a movie, five youthful prisoners escaped. The movie the guards were watching was about guards who watched a movie while youthful prisoners escaped.' ''
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14:16 < delinquentme> is there something like google scholar for india?
14:16 < delinquentme> Ive got a few researchers who seem to not even exist
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14:50 < juri_> heath: good luck. ;P
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14:59 < nmz787_w> delinquentme: they probably all use whatsap
14:59 < nmz787_w> or whatsapp
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15:21 < kanzure> or researchgate/academia.edu
15:22 < kanzure> .wik nicergoline
15:22 < yoleaux> "Nicergoline (INN, marketed under the trade name Sermion) is an ergot derivative used to treat senile dementia and other disorders with vascular origins. It decreases vascular resistance and increases arterial blood flow in the brain, improving the utilization of oxygen and glucose by brain cells." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicergoline
15:23 < kanzure> .wik sulbutiamine
15:23 < yoleaux> "Sulbutiamine (brand name: Arcalion) is a synthetic derivative of thiamine (vitamin B1). As a dimer of two modified thiamine molecules, it is a lipophilic compound that crosses the blood-brain barrier more readily than thiamine and increases the levels of thiamine and thiamine phosphate esters in the brain." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulbutiamine
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17:22 < kanzure> blort
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17:25 < nmz787_w> zingadoodle
17:26 < nmz787_w> my buddy said he tried that sulbutiamine
17:26 < nmz787_w> said he took it coincident with choline and other nootropics... so hard to say where the benefit came from, but he said he seemed to notice a positive effect
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18:35 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/DARPA/status/829025272846508033
18:35 < yoleaux> Proposers Days for new Pandemic Prevention Platform coming up fast. McLean, VA: Feb 22; San Diego: Mar 2. http://ow.ly/1YEe308LYwI #medicine https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4FKFxgWIAYuWjh.jpg (@DARPA)
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19:06 < kanzure> "Light controls cerebral blood flow in naive animals" http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms14191 https://twitter.com/anna_beyeler/status/826896510541504513
19:07 < kanzure> "Here we test whether light stimulation protocols similar to those commonly used in opto-fMRI or to study neurovascular coupling modulate blood flow in mice that do not express light sensitive proteins. Combining two-photon laser scanning microscopy and ultrafast functional ultrasound imaging, we report that in the naive mouse brain, light per se causes a calcium decrease in arteriolar smooth ...
19:07 < kanzure> ...muscle cells, leading to pronounced vasodilation, without excitation of neurons and astrocytes. This photodilation is reversible, reproducible and energy-dependent, appearing at about 0.5 mJ."
19:10 < kanzure> "Genetic defects in ?-spectrin and tau sensitize C. elegans axons to movement-induced damage via torque-tension coupling" https://elifesciences.org/content/6/e20172
19:10 < kanzure> "Here, we investigated the question of how the neuronal cytoskeleton protects axons and dendrites from mechanical stress, exploiting mutations in UNC-70 ?-spectrin, PTL-1 tau/MAP2-like and MEC-7 ?-tubulin proteins in Caenorhabditis elegans. We found that mechanical stress induces supercoils and plectonemes in the sensory axons of spectrin and tau double mutants. Biophysical measurements, sup...
19:10 < kanzure> ...er-resolution, and electron microscopy, as well as numerical simulations of neurons as discrete, elastic rods provide evidence that a balance of torque, tension, and elasticity stabilizes neurons against mechanical deformation. We conclude that the spectrin and microtubule cytoskeletons work in combination to protect axons and dendrites from mechanical stress and propose that defects in ?-spe...
19:10 < kanzure> ...ctrin and tau may sensitize neurons to damage."
19:10 < kanzure> "High-resolution imaging of cellular dopamine efflux using a fluorescent nanosensor array" http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2017/02/07/1613541114.abstract
19:11 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvS71CdNUsg
19:11 < yoleaux> Ben Barres: What do reactive astrocytes do? - YouTube
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