--- Log opened Tue Mar 07 00:00:06 2017 --- Day changed Tue Mar 07 2017 00:00 < nmz787_> .wik codocytes 00:00 < yoleaux> "Codocytes, also known as target cells or Mexican hat cells, are red blood cells that have the appearance of a shooting target with a bullseye. In optical microscopy these cells appear to have a dark center (a central, hemoglobinized area) surrounded by a white ring (an area of relative pallor), followed by dark outer (peripheral) second ..." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codocytes 00:00 < nmz787_> this says because of lipid or hemoglobin concentration https://theartofmed.wordpress.com/2015/09/05/morphological-abnormalities-of-red-blood-cells/ 00:01 < nmz787_> .wik spherocytes 00:01 < yoleaux> "Spherocytosis is an auto-hemolytic anemia (a disease of the blood) characterized by the production of spherocytes (red blood cells (RBCs)) or erythrocytes that are sphere-shaped rather than bi-concave disk shaped." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherocytes 00:02 < nmz787_> "Hereditary spherocytosis is a genetic disorder, a molecular defect in one or more of the proteins of the red blood cell cytoskeleton, including, spectrin, ankyrin, Band 3, or Protein 4.2. Because the cell skeleton has a defect, the blood cell contracts to its most surface-tension efficient and least flexible configuration, a sphere." 00:02 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@43.231.59.248] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:02 < nmz787_> "Allternatively, during immune-mediated hemolytic anemia, there is partial phagocytosis of normal red blood cells by phagocytosis due to the presence of antigens on the surface of the red blood cell. The phagocyte destroys the membrane where the antigen was present, destroying some of the surface area of the cell. Thus, the cell must now shape itself into a sphere, decreasing its surface area:volume 00:02 < nmz787_> ratio, since the volume of the cell ... 00:02 < nmz787_> ... remains the same. This is known as immune-mediated hemolytic anemia, since the immune system in the form of phagocytes destroys (hemolyses) a portion of the red blood cells, producing spherocytes. Two simple mechanisms." 00:03 < nmz787_> "Though the spherocytes have a smaller surface area through which oxygen and carbon dioxide can be exchanged, they in themselves perform adequately to maintain healthy oxygen supplies. However, they have a high osmotic fragility-when placed into water, they are more likely to burst than normal red blood cells." 00:21 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-147-193-115.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:21 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-82-41-104.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:22 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:59 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:18 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:26 -!- saturn2 [~visitant@unaffiliated/clone-of-saturn/x-2509460] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:42 -!- saturn2 [~visitant@unaffiliated/clone-of-saturn/x-2509460] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:08 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-219-044.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:26 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:43 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-219-044.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:45 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@43.231.59.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:53 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-219-044.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:13 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:35 < kanzure> yes here are some shape things: 04:35 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/To%20shape%20a%20cell%20-%20an%20inquiry%20into%20the%20causes%20of%20morphogenesis%20of%20microorganisms%20-%201990.pdf 04:35 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/The%20selective%20value%20of%20bacterial%20shape.pdf 04:36 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/Bacterial%20morphology%20-%20why%20have%20different%20shapes.pdf 04:48 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:23 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:29 -!- jtimon [~quassel@70.30.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:37 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:04 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:09 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:16 < kanzure> delinquentme now has a "fast protein liquid chromatography" machine. 08:04 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:19 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:04 -!- thxffo [smdikus@ircbouncehouse.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:10 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:13 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@43.231.58.192] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:14 -!- Guest83170 [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:22 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=648a25bc Bryan Bishop: a better link for scriptless scripts >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/mit-bitcoin-expo-2017/mimblewimble-and-scriptless-scripts/ 09:30 -!- nmz787_i [ntmccork@nat/intel/x-sjiwrzebofxewjgb] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:40 < kanzure> https://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/5xusm6/intranasal_insulin_ini_is_still_an_amazing_noot/ 09:40 < kanzure> cluckj: you gonna try it? 09:49 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@47.185.237.246] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:55 -!- thxffo [smdikus@ircbouncehouse.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:16 -!- jtimon [~quassel@70.30.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:24 < mz_o> 44 10:35 < cluckj> sounds like a huge load of crap 10:40 < kanzure> then i have good news! heh 10:40 < cluckj> haha 10:40 < kanzure> because guess what's also ingestible 10:41 < cluckj> is it crap 10:43 < cluckj> idk why you would want to spray insulin up your nose to "bypass the BBB" since insulin kinda just does that on its own 10:44 < kanzure> yes it is crap 10:46 < cluckj> "Lastly, it's being tested as a cure/vaccine for type 1 diabetes." 10:46 * cluckj eyes roll out of his head 10:46 < kanzure> "it's nicer than injecting it" 10:47 < cluckj> lol yikes! 10:47 < cluckj> 160IU a day intranasal with no side effects?! 10:47 < cluckj> that uh....is a lot of insulin 10:48 < cluckj> which makes me think putting it in your nose inactivates the insulin 10:54 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:58 -!- SolGriffin [~Sol@c-69-141-24-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [] 10:58 -!- nmz787_i1 [ntmccork@nat/intel/x-axgpyujdmzvxtrbb] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:00 -!- nmz787_i [ntmccork@nat/intel/x-sjiwrzebofxewjgb] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:05 < cluckj> the references look pretty thin, too 11:09 < cluckj> idk the BBB thing makes me think it's bogus thinking, if anything the intranasal route prevents the insulin from being consumed by the body 11:10 < cluckj> in the brain, insulin is just another peptide; brain cells don't regulate their internal glucose with insulin-sensitive receptors 11:14 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@43.231.58.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:17 -!- jtimon [~quassel@70.30.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:18 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@43.231.59.222] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:27 < chris_99> nmz787_, did you hear back from that company out of interest re. the analog MEMS mirror thing 12:03 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:05 < nmz787_i1> chris_99: I didn't 12:05 < chris_99> ah 12:24 -!- nmz787_i [ntmccork@nat/intel/x-vlxojgyvlsjtzjzh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:26 -!- nmz787_i1 [ntmccork@nat/intel/x-axgpyujdmzvxtrbb] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:32 -!- bsm1175322 [~mcelrath@135.84.167.210] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:41 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:56 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@2600:380:bd7b:d0c2:2557:d378:d8af:ef6a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:02 < fenn> aww i need cookies to read reddit now? poo 13:05 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@43.231.59.222] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:29 -!- WizJin [WizJin@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-zmgdztzkdkkhtucu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:29 -!- Qfwfq [Qfwfq@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-ontniszlcjuxfwui] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:46 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@2600:380:bd7b:d0c2:2557:d378:d8af:ef6a] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:47 -!- jcluck [~cluckj@static-98-114-125-87.phlapa.ftas.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:50 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@static-98-114-125-87.phlapa.ftas.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:03 -!- nmz787_i1 [~ntmccork@134.134.139.74] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:05 -!- nmz787_i [ntmccork@nat/intel/x-vlxojgyvlsjtzjzh] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:06 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:10 -!- Guest17930 [~abe@68.175.143.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:23 -!- Guest17930 [~abe@68.175.143.22] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:04 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:17 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:08 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:09 -!- nmz787_i1 [~ntmccork@134.134.139.74] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:35 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.137.75] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:00 < nmz787_i> are there other diybio convos that feature closely-located (physical proximity) people with photenically identical yet grammatically (I mean spelling) different names? 17:01 < kanzure> who you talking about? 17:01 < nmz787_i> phonetically* 17:02 < nmz787_i> 'Sean Donahue' and 'Jo Donoghue' 17:02 < nmz787_i> I guess in this case, it is only their last names 17:05 < nmz787_i> """The maximum capacity of a standard school bus is 72 passengers. However, Student Transportation Services recognizes the safety concerns and problems associated with loading buses to maximum capacity. The general guidelines used are: Grades K-6: 3 students to a seat Grades 7-12: 2 students to a seat Using these guidelines, typical bus maximum capacities will be: Grades K-8: 60 students per standard bus Grades K-12: 54 students p 17:06 < kanzure> you have textpaste cutoff due to line limits 17:07 < nmz787_i> damn 17:07 < nmz787_i> thought i had multiline plugin added 17:08 < nmz787_i> Grades K-12: 54 students per standard bus Grades 9-12: 48 students per standard bus""" 17:09 < nmz787_i> anyway, my point is adults probably fit in the 9-12 grade category as far as size goes 17:09 < nmz787_i> so if you are ever organizing large events, or need to do some relative estimation of numbers of people... there's a school bus ref for ya 17:10 < nmz787_i> I don't think I ever remember riding 3 to a seat as a kid tho 17:39 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-219-044.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:58 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:06 < jcluck> ? 18:06 -!- jcluck is now known as cluckj 18:37 < kanzure> yeah i don't know 18:40 -!- Guest17930 is now known as abetusk 19:05 < nmz787_i> you never think about organizing a biohacker field trip? 19:10 < kanzure> school is something to escape 19:14 -!- adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:28 -!- adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:53 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:55 < kanzure> .py3 import hashlib; import requests; print(hashlib.md5().hexdigest(requests.get("https://shells.aachen.ccc.de/~spq/md5.gif").content)) 19:55 < yoleaux> TypeError: hexdigest() takes no arguments (1 given) 19:57 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Client Quit] 20:16 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:13 -!- maaku [~mark@173.234.25.100] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:15 -!- maaku [~mark@173.234.25.100] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:37 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:40 -!- augur_ [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:42 -!- augur__ [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:42 -!- augur_ [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:42 -!- augur__ is now known as augur_ 21:43 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:56 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:58 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:01 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:3496:628e:dfc4:818b] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:24 -!- Burnin8 [~Burn@pool-108-56-208-224.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:24 -!- Burnin8 [~Burn@pool-108-56-208-224.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:31 < kanzure> hmph 22:31 < kanzure> a typeerror... fine. 22:58 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has quit [Quit: Leaving] --- Log closed Wed Mar 08 00:00:52 2017