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01:09 < kanzure> i had the strangest dream about https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2017-March/013749.html where blockstream decided to enter the field of molecular biology. their first offering was a biosecurity product based on error correcting codes and encoding schemes to minimize the impact of mutations in DNA molecules.
01:10 < kanzure> i was trying to play devil's advocate but my dreamself ended up steelmanning the whole thing by proposing alternative genetic alphabets during phases where DNA doesn't need to be executable.
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01:10 < kanzure> i was trying to explain to blockstream why you can't apply error correcting codes to protein designs, but my explanation didn't really work and they didn't believe me.
01:11 < kanzure> although dreamstream did agree with me that everything should be pushed to software as much as possible, instead of leaving it in biologyland. so that's progress!
01:13 < kanzure> insert obvious data storage applications here... not that it matters, i think that has already been published. the amino acid encoding and encryption would be more novel.
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04:14 < chris_99> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/408708/can-magnets-boost-ethanol-production/ is interesting, but they're only shaving off 2 hours
04:15 < kanzure> on second thought, moving everything to the software layers is good, but de-tangling all the biology is also important-- flattening out biology to push everything back into explicit proteins instead of second-order effects is also an effective path forward.
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09:20 < kanzure> blort
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09:30 < TMA> chris_99: 2 hours of 15 is 13.33...% speedup. moreover there is reportedly 17% gain in yield that is of importance by itself -- thats 35% combined increase in throughput
09:32 < chris_99> hmm, i was thinking in terms of brewing, when fermentation can take a number of days, but yeah i guess if it finishes in 15hr that does make it worth while for biofuels
09:39 < chris_99> i wonder if they know how it works now, that paper was from 2007
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11:04 < streety> was anyone able to view the article? All I got was errors
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11:17 < chris_99> streety, the one i linked to or..?
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15:13 < chris_99> does anyone know why nuclear waste is sometimes stored under shallow water, i'm curious what the water does?
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15:18 < chris_99> oh found https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spent_fuel_pool it apparently cools the fuel
15:18 < chris_99> and shields
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15:35 < streety> chris_99: yeah, magnetically enhancing fermentation
15:36 < chris_99> if you plug : 10.1021/bp070078k into sci-hub you should get it
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15:46 < chris_99> the field strength seems pretty low too from what i understand
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17:07 < nmz787_> sup
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18:04 < kanzure> was hanging out with andytoshi
18:05 < kanzure> you?
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18:17 < kanzure> http://aleph.se/andart2/megascale/just-how-efficient-can-a-jupiter-brain-be/
18:17 < kanzure> http://aleph.se/andart2/megascale/energy-requirements-of-the-singularity/
18:17 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13920714
18:17 < yoleaux> The physics of information processing superobjects: Jupiter brains (1999) [pdf] | Hacker News
18:26 < kanzure> "Deep-brain imaging via epi-fluorescence Computational Cannula Microscopy" http://www.nature.com/articles/srep44791
18:27 < kanzure> "ere we demonstrate widefield (field diameter = 200 ?m) fluorescence microscopy and video imaging inside the rodent brain at a depth of 2 mm using a simple surgical glass needle (cannula) of diameter 0.22 mm as the primary optical element. The cannula guides excitation light into the brain and the fluorescence signal out of the brain. Concomitant image-processing algorithms are util...
18:27 < kanzure> ...ized to convert the spatially scrambled images into fluorescent images and video. The small size of the cannula enables minimally invasive imaging, while the long length (>2 mm) allow for deep-brain imaging with no additional complexity in the optical system. Since no scanning is involved, widefield fluorescence video at the native frame rate of the camera can be achieved."
18:27 < kanzure> *Here
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19:32 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13924099
19:32 < yoleaux> Launch HN: Boxouse (YC W17) - Shipping-container homes | Hacker News
19:32 < kanzure> cc fenn
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19:55 < kanzure> wearable electrical stimulation device https://www.volthealth.com/
19:57 < kanzure> another receipt scanner thingy https://www.iqboxy.com/
20:01 < kanzure> "wework for retail shelf space" https://bulletin.co/ well that's probably going to sell a bunch of space..
20:02 < kanzure> meeting notes service https://asktetra.com/
20:04 < kanzure> sales call voice analysis stuff https://cloverintelligence.com/
20:05 < kanzure> "usb port for human body" (i guess they mean a standard prosthetic socket) http://www.cbas.global/
20:08 < kanzure> http://indeelabs.com/ "Indee provides a new way to use CRISPR to edit the genome of cells. Current methods of editing genes include using viruses or electroporation, but Indee uses microturbulence to dissolve molecules within a cell."
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21:05 < maaku> My kids are watching The Secret World of Arrietty and it gets me thinking -- I wonder how small humans can be genetically engineered to be?
21:06 < maaku> I don't mean dwarfism, but rather shrinking human cells. The FairyFly's entire bodylength is measured in hundreds of microns, whereas the average human cell is ~25um
21:07 < maaku> If you could shrink humans to be small percentage of their current body volume, that'd gain a large constant factor in resource efficiency and carrying capacity
21:08 < maaku> At the risk of making the housecat a dominant preditor
21:15 < kanzure> small dogs seem to do okay brain things
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