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04:15 < fenn_> thomasegi was looking at synthetic zeolites for water adsorption and temperature swing desorption
04:15 < yoleaux> 14 Apr 2017 08:51Z <archels_> fenn_: didn't have much success with the first print of the thread--it was too big to fit. Do you have any heuristics/refs on tolerances one ought to use?
04:15 < yoleaux> 14 Apr 2017 12:54Z <archels_> fenn_: thinking of going for 0.2 mm tolerance on the radius for the next print (i.e. .4 on the diameter)
04:25 < fenn_> archels_: the loosest class of 32 tpi threads have +- 0.07mm tolerance on the major diameter, so 0.2mm clearance should work
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04:48 < kanzure> hmph
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08:46 < kanzure> some neuroscience art stuff https://imgur.com/gallery/Ikoy8
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10:50 < andytoshi> kanzure: do you have any link or anything where you talk about timestamping tens or hundreds of thousands of things? roger ver has a new timestamping service that costs only $2 per document, i'd like to mention this on reddit :P
10:51 < kanzure> don't think i've mentioned in public somewhere
10:51 < andytoshi> ah, no worries, it was just to shitpost on reddit
10:51 < kanzure> i've been timestamping irc logs, does that count
10:52 < andytoshi> nah, i just wanted a pithy reply to somebody who said that roger's too only costs 40 cents per doc vs $2 to get something notarized at the bank
10:52 < andytoshi> roger's tool
10:53 < kanzure> oh, sure. petertodd's timestamping thing is free. for now.
10:53 < andytoshi> yeah, i mentioned that
10:54 < andytoshi> lol wtf his tool uses two transactions per document
10:58 < kanzure> you could point out the timestamps in bitcoin.git already
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11:02 < andytoshi> eh, i think my point has been made, by several people now
11:02 < andytoshi> it would have been cool to have evidence of 10000+ timestamps in a single tx though
11:04 < kanzure> oh, i could show some, like the podesta emails
11:04 < kanzure> or viruses
11:04 < kanzure> let's do viruses
11:05 < andytoshi> lol, well, here is the reddit thread https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/65izs6/bitcoincom_launches_blockchainbased_notary_page/ .. it's not making much of a splash unfortunately
11:05 < kanzure> andytoshi: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/genomes/viruses/timestamps/virus-timestamps.tar.gz
11:05 < kanzure> this is a timestamp of all the sequenced viruses from the ncbi database
11:05 < kanzure> (>4,000 viruses)
11:06 < andytoshi> annoying like opentimestamps wants the original files to verify the timestamps
11:07 < kanzure> use "ots info" in the mean time.
11:07 < kanzure> as for the actual files, see http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/genomes/viruses/
11:07 < kanzure> in particular: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/genomes/viruses/all.gbk.tar.gz
11:07 < andytoshi> are these very recent? looks like the timestamp is pending for zika at least
11:08 < kanzure> i haven't upgraded these timestamps yet
11:08 < andytoshi> oh, does ots info not upgrade them?
11:08 < andytoshi> i guess not, it runs very quickly..
11:08 < kanzure> "ots upgrade"
11:08 < kanzure> "ots info" just shows the file data
11:09 < andytoshi> yep, i've got it
11:13 < kanzure> andytoshi: ok i uploaded the upgraded timestamps to the same url.
11:14 < andytoshi> oh nice
11:22 < andytoshi> from `ots info` i'm having trouble finding the actual tx
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11:26 < andytoshi> ok, it's b89e7715d5babf51e5d95284d0c44743168d22e51db9f13c9c99395baf424124 ... but i had to step through the output of `info` myself to compute that :) i'll maybe submit a patch to ots-client to make that easier
11:28 < andytoshi> there we go https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/65izs6/bitcoincom_launches_blockchainbased_notary_page/dgazcv4/
11:33 < andytoshi> ah, here's PT arguing that this should be hard :P https://github.com/opentimestamps/opentimestamps-client/issues/33
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11:41 < andytoshi> i'll write an OTS parser with a nice web ui, i want to learn how to use https://github.com/SergioBenitez/Rocket
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15:41 < kanzure> yashgaroth: how does a position get into dbSNP at ncbi?
15:42 < kanzure> someone has to submit a unique snp first, right?
15:46 < yashgaroth> once it's already in another database, apparently
15:47 < yashgaroth> and has a publication to go with it
15:47 < kanzure> publication of what? just "we found some DNA yo"?
15:48 < yashgaroth> presumably you link it to some phenotype or population, then publish that with numbers and p values and w/e
15:48 < kanzure> oh.
15:50 < yashgaroth> one person with one unique SNP isn't really publishable unless you can confirm its effect, eg by genetically engineering a mouse with it
16:00 < nmz787_> or a human
16:11 < kanzure> i thought they just bulk published SNPs even without knowing effet
16:11 < kanzure> *effect
16:17 < yashgaroth> with enough people in the study, sure
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19:44 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdmbpAo9JR4
19:44 < yoleaux> The Inner Life of the Cell - Protein Packing [Narrated] [HD] - YouTube
19:46 < kanzure> microtubule motor transportation state machine stuff might be useful for polymerase switching..
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