--- Log opened Fri Apr 21 00:00:32 2017 01:00 -!- augur [~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:81ee:51a5:c5e8:d877] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:00 -!- augur [~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:81ee:51a5:c5e8:d877] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00 -!- augur [~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:05 -!- augur [~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:05 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:06 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1174:d800:2c30:6882:d22e:cb1d] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:06 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1174:d800:2c30:6882:d22e:cb1d] has quit [Changing host] 01:06 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:40 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pdeghbsqgiwkkhec] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:13 -!- Jen [~Jen@cpc76808-brmb10-2-0-cust571.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:13 -!- Jen [~Jen@cpc76808-brmb10-2-0-cust571.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:16 -!- Jen__ [~Jen@cpc76808-brmb10-2-0-cust571.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:23 < kanzure> 19:45 < juul> you could just ship a bit of NaOH and 100 mM Tris-HCL adjusted to pH 8 02:23 < kanzure> 19:46 < juul> i think most sequencing places will then do the rest of the cleanup for a small fee 02:23 < kanzure> thanks. 02:30 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:30 < kanzure> what's the point of http://waitbutwhy.com/2017/04/neuralink.html if there's zero details about what neuralink is actually doing. wtf. 02:30 < kanzure> at least with kernel.co we have papers regarding their hippocampus implant 02:39 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:43 -!- jtimon [~quassel@9.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:01 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:6dca:6913:22bc:6135] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:06 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:08 < archels_> kanzure: there was also that announcement about Facebook wanting to do "mindreading" (scarequotes) 03:27 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:33 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:42 < JayDugger> Pump for a dump of Tesla shares? 03:52 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:13 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Quit: tldr] 04:44 -!- pompolic [~A@unaffiliated/pompolic] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:09 -!- pasky [~pasky@nikam.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:12 < kanzure> archels_: they haven't picked a technique yet. 05:12 -!- pasky [~pasky@nikam.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:16 < archels_> if Facebook and Google and so start investing vast sums of money into feasible BCIs, that could speed things up rather immensely 05:17 -!- pasky [~pasky@nikam.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:17 < archels_> let's hope they go for optical instead of needles 05:28 -!- pasky [~pasky@nikam.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:29 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:34 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pdeghbsqgiwkkhec] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 05:43 < kanzure> received some email spam about a surrogacy company, they seem to want 30-50k. except for india, which is 18-20k, and indian ivf treatments at 3k. 05:48 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:49 < archels_> how's the compatibility of Western zygotes and Indian surrogates? should I prefer an as-genetically-similar surrogate? 05:51 -!- Guest39973 [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:07 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@2001:8003:1174:d800:e161:bfb4:38ef:86ec] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:07 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@2001:8003:1174:d800:e161:bfb4:38ef:86ec] has quit [Changing host] 06:07 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:09 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:21 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:30 < kanzure> "A single heterochronic blood exchange reveals rapid inhibition of multiple tissues by old blood" https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms13363 07:31 < kanzure> ambrosia has a clinical trial apparently https://clinicaltrials.gov/show/NCT02803554 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14165209 07:31 < kanzure> "Maybe, like in the mice studies, we could just graft baby goats to our backs after we hit 50." 07:32 < jcorgan> still waiting for the Niven cow surrogates 07:33 < kanzure> .wik TIM2 07:33 < yoleaux> "TNO (gastro-) Intestinal Models ("TIM") are model systems mimicking the digestive tract." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNO_intestinal_model 07:33 < kanzure> hrm, no. 07:33 < kanzure> .wik TIMP2 07:33 < yoleaux> "TIMP metallopeptidase inhibitor 2, a tissue inhibitor of metalloproteinases, also known as TIMP2, is a human gene, thought to be a metastasis suppressor." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TIMP2 07:36 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:52 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:11 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:12 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-000-217-120.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:04 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:11 -!- nmz787_i [ntmccork@nat/intel/x-zwomhydrvoclafws] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:17 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@47.185.237.246] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:26 -!- Jen [~Jen@cpc76808-brmb10-2-0-cust571.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:32 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gugvjkehqjakawvx] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:41 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:49 -!- nmz787_i [ntmccork@nat/intel/x-zwomhydrvoclafws] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:55 -!- Gurkenglas_ is now known as Gurkenglas 10:32 -!- anachronick [~kvirc@a85-138-147-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:32 < anachronick> hello 10:32 < kanzure> GREETINGS 10:32 < anachronick> neural lace, opinions? will it be available in 8-10 years? 10:33 < kanzure> KERNEL.CO IMPLEMENTATION IS BETTER DESCRIBED IN THE LITERATURE FOR NOW SEE PAGE 29 FIGURE 5 http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/memory/A%20cognitive%20prosthesis%20for%20memory%20facilitation%20by%20closed-loop%20functional%20ensemble%20stimulation%20of%20hippocampal%20neurons%20in%20primate%20brain%20-%20Berger%20-%202016.pdf 10:34 < kanzure> POSSIBLY THEY ARE WANT IMPLEMENT http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Syringe%20injectable%20electronics%20-%202015.pdf 10:34 -!- Jen__ [~Jen@cpc76808-brmb10-2-0-cust571.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:36 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-000-217-120.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:38 -!- Jen [~Jen@cpc76808-brmb10-2-0-cust571.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:42 < nmz787_> HGP said I could pay the academic rate... so with plane tix I am still under $1k... kanzure is there a space for me to sleep? Floor is fine, as long as we can get an extra blanket from hotel 10:42 < kanzure> probably foor space, sure.. which days did you want? 10:45 < nmz787_> mon tues and weds nights 10:46 < kanzure> great. 10:46 < nmz787_> should I push myself (read I will hate this) to get on a plane at 6:30AM to end up in NYC by 3PM... or leave at noon and get there at 9PM 10:46 < kanzure> on monday? 10:47 < nmz787_> I guess former will suck hard in the beginning, but will give us time to hang out during daylight (no vampires) on Monday 10:47 < kanzure> i am at the ledgerx office until 5-6ish, in fact maybe you should swing by 10:48 < nmz787_> ok, I guess earlier seems less like wasting the whole day on travel 10:49 < cluckj> if there are any delays, the 9pm arrival is going to turn into more of a nightmare 10:49 -!- jtimon_ [~quassel@9.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:49 < nmz787_> yeah 10:49 < nmz787_> would be pretty late, not to mention I'll be on west coast time 10:49 < nmz787_> so maybe seeing sunlight and sunset will help me adjust 10:49 < kanzure> check ticket availability first 10:50 < nmz787_> kanzure: any plans for weds? 10:50 < kanzure> well yashgaroth and i have some time with george church at some point, so that has priority (you should tag along of course) 10:50 < nmz787_> and that is on Weds? 10:50 < nmz787_> or you don't know yet 10:50 < kanzure> not sure yet 10:50 < nmz787_> hmm 10:50 < nmz787_> ok 10:51 < nmz787_> I could stay longer too, and work remotely, if you don't mind me staying another night 10:51 < nmz787_> if that would ease the church meetup 10:51 < kanzure> dunno what his schedule is, just asked someone but the guy is afk 10:52 < nmz787_> hmm, eventbrite wants my prefix... I did register as a minister with Universal Life Church... so Rev. ? 10:52 < kanzure> i am may 7-14 so i have the room for a few days 10:52 < kanzure> the only reverands we accept in here are from the church of discordia 10:53 < nmz787_> Dr. DNA sounds cooler than Rev. DNA 10:53 < nmz787_> Rev.RNA would work better 10:53 < nmz787_> but screw RNA 10:53 < kanzure> "Director of NERV" 10:54 < nmz787_> huh, they offer a gender neutral prefix 'Mx' which I've never seen before 10:54 < nmz787_> I wonder if dummies assume that means Mexico 10:56 < nmz787_> ok, registered with HGP 10:57 < kanzure> i'm surprised they still have availability.. 10:58 < nmz787_> RNA stealing the show 10:59 < nmz787_> how about arriving Sun 3PM and leaving Thurs afternoon? 11:00 < nmz787_> too long? 11:00 < nmz787_> (for you to deal with me) 11:00 < kanzure> up to you, i'm going into the office on monday and thursday-friday. 11:02 < nmz787_> ok, I can find somewhere to sit then too, that isn't the hotel room. 11:03 < nmz787_> nonstop flights make this easier 11:06 < kanzure> you should prepare some notes for one of the lightning presentation slots 11:07 < kanzure> they are giving 2-3 minutes for pitches at the end of both days 11:09 < nmz787_> I can talk about the hell of nonstandardization, in semiconductor design/fab... and how lack of standardization in the human genome might prevent gene therapy from being applied cheaply/easily to wide range of human population 11:09 < nmz787_> or something 11:09 < nmz787_> or I can talk about micro/nanofluidics 11:09 < nmz787_> software stack for design and CAD 11:09 < nmz787_> ok, plane tix confirmed 11:12 < nmz787_> are domestic flights affected by the laptop ban? 11:12 < nmz787_> i.e. will I be required to pay for a checked bag? 11:13 < nmz787_> seems like I am reading stuff only about flights originating at some international airports 11:13 < cluckj> trust no TSA 11:38 < kanzure> "Martin Shkreli claims to have made a lot of money by shorting pharma companies ahead of their FDA results - he would read their studies and make reasonably accurate predictions as to the outcome." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14168051 11:48 < nmz787_> seems smart 11:58 < kanzure> "dat elon musk" -- grandma's latest email to me 12:42 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:52 -!- Jen__ [~Jen@cpc76808-brmb10-2-0-cust571.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:55 -!- Jen [~Jen@cpc76808-brmb10-2-0-cust571.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:55 -!- anachronick [~kvirc@a85-138-147-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:00 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-000-217-120.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:04 -!- NikopolSohru [~NSohru@s5596eed8.adsl.online.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:23 < kanzure> "Growth differentiation factor 11 (GDF11) - a promising anti-ageing factor - is highly concentrated in platelets" http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/longevity/Growth%20differentiation%20factor%2011%20(GDF11)%20-%20a%20promising%20anti-ageing%20factor%20-%20is%20highly%20concentrated%20in%20platelets%20-%202016.pdf (2016) 13:23 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:27 < kanzure> "Genome-wide association meta-analysis of human longevity identifies a novel locus conferring survival beyond 90 years of age" https://academic.oup.com/hmg/article/23/16/4420/625655/Genome-wide-association-meta-analysis-of-human (2014) 13:33 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=80aa5a9c Bryan Bishop: more longevity alleles >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/genetic-modifications/ 13:34 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:36 < kanzure> "Novel loci and pathways significantly associated with longevity" https://www.nature.com/articles/srep21243 (2016) 13:37 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=4208128c Bryan Bishop: also mention rs2069837 and rs2440012 for longevity >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/genetic-modifications/ 13:38 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:45 * kanzure mumbles about bluespec systemverilog risc-v things 13:54 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:57 < chris_99> just saw the glowing plant thing failed - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/antonyevans/glowing-plants-natural-lighting-with-no-electricit/posts i thought it was going to be a proper plant not just some glowing moss, what use is glowing moss dammit 13:59 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:10 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:24 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:25 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:45 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:05 -!- Jen__ [~Jen@cpc76808-brmb10-2-0-cust571.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:05 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:08 -!- Jen [~Jen@cpc76808-brmb10-2-0-cust571.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:24 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gugvjkehqjakawvx] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 15:42 -!- NikopolSohru [~NSohru@s5596eed8.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:42 < nmz787_> .tell chris_99 moss grows like a champ here in western Oregon... so many people have moss-covered roofs (that means they are lazy to clean it)... it would be pretty cool! 15:42 < yoleaux> nmz787_: I'll pass your message to chris_99. 15:43 < cluckj> I thought it was scented, not glowing, moss 15:43 < nmz787_> another idea for the FIB is, if we could get it for the low-bid price, it might be OK to just take it apart for like a day or two, just to be able to pack it onto a rental truck (or maybe my farmer can lend me a truck and trailer?) 15:44 < nmz787_> or, yet another idea could be to buy a trailer, like the medical exam trailers FEMA uses or whatever, like in that second or third jurassic park movie 15:44 < nmz787_> then get the seller to load it, and I just never unload 15:44 < nmz787_> solves my issue of if I ever move too 15:50 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:55 -!- Jen__ [~Jen@cpc76808-brmb10-2-0-cust571.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:55 -!- Jen [~Jen@cpc76808-brmb10-2-0-cust571.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:19 -!- pompolic [~A@unaffiliated/pompolic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:20 < streety> Seems like a popular approach with screening. Quite often see mobile DEXA or MRI or xray cancer screening packaged up into a truck or trailers of different types and moved where needed. 16:20 < streety> not sure how much it would actually save though 16:26 -!- Jen [~Jen@cpc76808-brmb10-2-0-cust571.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:28 -!- Jen [~Jen@cpc76808-brmb10-2-0-cust571.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:29 -!- Aurelius [~cpopell@50.35.79.117] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:48 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-000-217-120.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:55 -!- Jen__ [~Jen@cpc76808-brmb10-2-0-cust571.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:55 -!- Jen [~Jen@cpc76808-brmb10-2-0-cust571.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:58 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:12 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nbtbyfaoknexlkrh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:59 < kanzure> "Near-infrared optogenetic pair for protein regulation and spectral multiplexing" https://www.nature.com/nchembio/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nchembio.2343.html 18:13 -!- Jen [~Jen@cpc76808-brmb10-2-0-cust571.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:15 -!- Jen__ [~Jen@cpc76808-brmb10-2-0-cust571.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:26 < kanzure> musics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcYZvxfBU-o&t=1m2s 18:41 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:cd4d:3300:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:50 < kanzure> yashgaroth: looks like we'll have +1 guest in the room. 18:50 < yashgaroth> yeah I saw the logs, no problem 18:52 < kanzure> do you see anything interesting in table 1? https://academic.oup.com/hmg/article/23/16/4420/625655/Genome-wide-association-meta-analysis-of-human 18:53 < kanzure> or er, table 2 18:54 < yashgaroth> uh gimme a few minutes to convert gene symbols to functions 18:54 < kanzure> also see p value (have to horizontal scroll) 19:04 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:6804:7b39:7dc:394d] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:06 < kanzure> ".. ZNF217 can attenuate apoptotic signals resulting from telomere dysfunction and may promote neoplastic transformation and later stages of malignancy" 19:11 < yashgaroth> well these positions aren't lining up with the ucsc genome browser so this'll take a while 19:15 < yashgaroth> I feel like a lot of them will be slowed metabolism, aside from the neural stuff 19:20 < yashgaroth> but if APOE is still the most correlative, it points to surviving brain degradation, along with the other strongest ones being neural, then there's P450 and the p values go to shit after that 19:20 < kanzure> seems hard to believe APOE is the strongest. 19:21 < yashgaroth> if people don't die of heart disease or cancer, they'll die of alzheimer's 19:21 < kanzure> but what about all the people that just get the olds and get weak and die? 19:22 < yashgaroth> it's hard to die purely of weakness aside from heart 19:22 < kanzure> well i don't mean muscular weakness. hmm. 19:23 < yashgaroth> there's some cell proliferation regulators that are probably downregulated, like the metabolism stuff, but I can't tell exactly where the mutations are based on their listed chromosome locations being off 19:23 < kanzure> slow metabolism would make lots more sense to me. 19:24 < yashgaroth> oh wait apoe is heart disease 19:25 < kanzure> APOE is also alzheimers. 19:25 < yashgaroth> wait nm 19:25 < yashgaroth> good I was worried for a second 19:26 < yashgaroth> but like the methionine synthase, my hunch is it's downregulated, mimicking the effects of caloric restriction and such 19:28 < yashgaroth> though it does have a pretty weak correlation, they just listed it first...I gotta dig deep into their methods, I don't do a lot of GWAS. p.s. http://www.theallium.com/biology/us-government-to-officially-recognize-gwas-as-a-religious-belief/ 19:28 < kanzure> gwern is the pope of gwas bullshit 19:28 < yashgaroth> not surprising 19:29 < kanzure> 19:29 <@gwern> kanzure: finally! now I can't be discriminated against based on my genetic beliefs - it's now a protected category 19:29 < kanzure> fuck. 19:29 < yashgaroth> haha 19:32 < nmz787_> is gwas ridiculed these days or am I mistaken? 19:33 < yashgaroth> it's just a fertile breeding ground for p-hacking 19:34 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nbtbyfaoknexlkrh] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:48 -!- _Sol_ [~Sol@c-69-141-24-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:48 -!- Solgriffin [~Sol@c-69-141-24-242.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:31 -!- Darius [~quassel@66-215-89-229.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:38 < kanzure> "Ben Best is not CI's CEO. 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I would (could) partition off part of my garage to keep it (and probably the SEM too) in. It also seems like maybe I might want to go at this full-time... whi 23:43 < nmz787_> ch would mean I'd probably also start ... 23:43 < nmz787_> ... looking more seriously for some part-time income (if I were to quit my current day job). 23:44 < nmz787_> so maybe you can ping Zach, unless you think it better to wait until NYC 23:45 < nmz787_> I can wait to quit until then ;) --- Log closed Sat Apr 22 00:00:33 2017