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There are currently two primary ways to invest:" 07:33 < kanzure> "We are currently offering 16.8% of the company for $14 Million (USD). We are able to accept a minimum of $100,000 (USD) from accredited investors. " 07:33 < kanzure> "We also offer a lifetime therapy subscription at an investment of $1.5 Million (USD), for a 0.5% stake in the company. This offers our investors therapies at cost (both direct and indirect) for the life of the company." 07:35 < kanzure> so a >$90M valuation for bioviva. that's pretty high for such an early stage. 07:59 -!- entity8421[m] [entity8421@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-zqgmbqeczcspvbab] has quit [K-Lined] 08:11 -!- entity8421[m] [entity8421@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ebetqirulgmvkxdc] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:18 < kanzure> "The author is correct about the redox state of the cell being of primary importance though and he does make the connection between the peroxiredoxin clock and lifespan" 08:45 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:50 -!- anachronick [~kvirc@a85-138-147-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:57 < kanzure> "HBP Hippocamp 2017: Collaborative and Integrative Modeling of Hippocampus ... to be held May 23rd-24th at the European Institute for Theoretical Neuroscience (EITN) in Paris, France, supported by the Human Brain Project ( http://www.humanbrainproject.eu/ )." 08:57 < kanzure> http://neuralensemble.org/meetings/Hippocamp2017/ 09:13 -!- nmz787_i [ntmccork@nat/intel/x-butgvhbtikxyhhca] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:16 -!- Madars_ [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:22 < nmz787_i> 'RU-486' makes me think it is some kind of processor joke 09:23 -!- Madars_ [~null@unaffiliated/madars] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:25 < kanzure> .wik RU-486 09:25 < yoleaux> "Mifepristone, also known as RU-486, is a medication typically used with misoprostol to bring about an abortion. This combination is more than 95% effective during the first 50 days of pregnancy. It is also effective in the second trimester of pregnancy. Two weeks after use effectiveness should be verified. It is taken by mouth." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RU-486 09:34 < kanzure> genome sequencing prices http://arep.med.harvard.edu/gmc/genome_services.html 09:38 < abetusk> genomix for $200? 09:38 < abetusk> wow, they claim it's whole genome 09:41 < nmz787_i> hmm, got a job offer from a microarray company, but would have to move to AZ :/ 09:58 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 09:59 < abetusk> Is anyone here in Australia? 10:00 < kanzure> QuantumG 10:12 < fenn> quantumg's gone 10:25 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:28 -!- CoOlCyrus [~coolcyrus@85.203.23.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:56 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:04 -!- m4l3z [~m4l3z@2a01cb040226f200e922f705363c3c4c.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:06 < kanzure> weekly dose of cnc propaganda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkj1_tz1ff0 11:08 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-222-233.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:08 -!- m4l3z [~m4l3z@2a01cb040226f200e922f705363c3c4c.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:27 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:46 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:54 -!- jtimon [~quassel@9.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:54 -!- jtimon [~quassel@9.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:08 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zuaalmiobcspuqvu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:11 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:19 -!- m4l3z [~m4l3z@2a01cb040226f2001db892faddd5d92a.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:30 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:30 -!- Aurelius`gym is now known as Aurelius 12:39 -!- m4l3z [~m4l3z@2a01cb040226f2001db892faddd5d92a.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:41 -!- m4l3z [~m4l3z@2a01cb040226f2001db892faddd5d92a.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:02 -!- m4l3z [~m4l3z@2a01cb040226f2001db892faddd5d92a.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:07 -!- m4l3z [~m4l3z@2a01cb040226f2001db892faddd5d92a.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:14 < nmz787_i> kanzure: time is almost up on the FIB bidding 13:19 < kanzure> give them the $500 offer 13:24 < nmz787_i> there is no offer button 13:24 < nmz787_i> also, in email they mention $7k 13:24 < nmz787_i> so their ebay 'buy it now' is already $2k lower than that 13:25 < nmz787_i> 500 seems to be in the insulting region... for a factory condition FIB 13:26 < nmz787_i> though I guess it would be insulting to a private seller more than a company 13:26 < kanzure> ... $600? 13:26 < nmz787_i> which this isn't 13:27 < nmz787_i> I could try via email, but I have a feeling I might risk them disregarding any future emails from me 13:32 < kanzure> you want to split it? 13:33 < nmz787_i> I'll have to pay at least $1000 just for hauling it, plus renting a forklift there and here 13:34 < nmz787_i> so I'm guessing $1400-1500 just for transport alone 13:35 < nmz787_i> so I thought that would be close to splitting it 13:35 < nmz787_i> or you could buy this other working one, local to me... for $150k http://www.ebay.com/itm/FEI-FIB-FIB200xP-Focused-Ion-Beam-Microscope-System-/122446066499 13:36 < nmz787_i> but that one is 10 years older 13:36 < nmz787_i> runs Win NT 4.0 13:36 < kanzure> O_O 13:36 < nmz787_i> I know because that is what they have at the lab I part-time at 13:37 < kanzure> fine, let's do it 13:38 < nmz787_i> bidding ended 13:38 < kanzure> wht's the oshpark one? 13:38 < nmz787_i> hmm? 13:38 < kanzure> from yesterday 13:38 < nmz787_i> my idea for putting a FIB online? 13:38 < kanzure> i thought you said there's a FIB sold by oshpark 13:39 < nmz787_i> no 13:39 < nmz787_i> I was saying that could be a business model 13:39 < nmz787_i> collect samples from various clients, place them in sections, pump down chamber, and have a web GUI that lets the users do their own FIB work on just their section of the field of view 13:40 < nmz787_i> then you mail the samples back after all have been worked on 13:40 < nmz787_i> you save vacuum pump cycles, etc 13:40 < nmz787_i> plus that doesn't exist as a business model, no online FIB or SEM self-drive cloud apps 13:46 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:47 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:48 < kanzure> "An extra-uterine system to physiologically support the extreme premature lamb" https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15112 13:49 < kanzure> "In the developed world, extreme prematurity is the leading cause of neonatal mortality and morbidity due to a combination of organ immaturity and iatrogenic injury. Until now, efforts to extend gestation using extracorporeal systems have achieved limited success. Here we report the development of a system that incorporates a pumpless oxygenator circuit connected to the fetus of a lamb via an ... 13:49 < kanzure> ...umbilical cord interface that is maintained within a closed 'amniotic fluid' circuit that closely reproduces the environment of the womb. We show that fetal lambs that are developmentally equivalent to the extreme premature human infant can be physiologically supported in this extra-uterine device for up to 4 weeks. Lambs on support maintain stable haemodynamics, have normal blood gas and ... 13:49 < kanzure> ...oxygenation parameters and maintain patency of the fetal circulation. With appropriate nutritional support, lambs on the system demonstrate normal somatic growth, lung maturation and brain growth and myelination." 13:49 < kanzure> http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/04/25/525044286/scientists-create-artificial-womb-that-could-help-prematurely-born-babies 13:49 < kanzure> dat figure 1 13:51 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:54 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:02 < nmz787_i> test tubes were too expensive :P 14:02 < nmz787_i> 'plastic bag baby' just doesn't have the same ring to it 14:03 < kanzure> extra womb 14:03 < kanzure> extra woomb 14:05 < kanzure> heh heh heh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1uIIY2glaY 14:59 -!- poppingtonic1 [~brian@41.80.81.99] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:59 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:02 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:04 -!- m4l3z [~m4l3z@2a01cb040226f2001db892faddd5d92a.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:06 -!- poppingtonic1 [~brian@41.80.81.99] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:45 -!- cacala [uid225747@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dazfwbyihqxhcmdr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:14 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zuaalmiobcspuqvu] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 16:19 < juri_> so, you want an internet connected SEM as a service, eh? 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give us a call" 19:04 < kanzure> "and have you ever noticed how much you're paying for them to just sleep? not anymore!" 19:06 < yashgaroth> I guarantee a 50% reduction in the time it takes navy seals to complete a maze 19:08 < kanzure> we could prepare a separate small proposal doc for DARPA i guess 19:08 < kanzure> and hand it to them at the conference 19:09 < kanzure> just some broad outlines 19:10 < yashgaroth> I mean if they're funding something as banal as relaxed nutrition requirements for soldiers, actual enhancement stuff's gotta be a shoe-in 19:11 < yashgaroth> I'll just non-chalantly ask "so, how's the supersoldier program going?" and hopefully they'll answer before remembering that they can't talk about it 19:11 < kanzure> ask in fake russian accent 19:11 < yashgaroth> naturally 19:29 < kanzure> hessel says that if i want the MPEG-LA crispr patent pool to stop happening, that i should write a blog post :( 19:39 < cluckj> that's not a bad idea... 19:40 < kanzure> will you do it 19:40 < cluckj> I don't know enough about it, unfortunately 19:40 < cluckj> a blog post might help :P 19:42 -!- jtimon [~quassel@9.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:47 < cluckj> I can help in a couple weeks, after I finish being in grading jail 20:04 < cluckj> got background info links? 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