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01:10 < kanzure> didn't know scurvy was based on so few people, that's cool.
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06:13 < archels_> http://www.theverge.com/2017/4/25/15421734/artificial-womb-fetus-biobag-uterus-lamb-sheep-birth-premie-preterm-infant
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06:30 < kanzure> you're a few days late on that one
06:35 < archels_> I was on vacation for a couple days
06:35 < archels_> has anything interesting been said about it in the mean time?
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06:45 < kanzure> i pointed out that figure 1 is pretty cool
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07:06 < archels_> did you see the movies?
07:06 < kanzure> no
07:08 < archels_> they're in the supplementary
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09:12 < red-001> intersting
09:13 < red-001> I didn't think I will find a place this intersting while researching old irc logs
09:15 < kanzure> we deal only in exponentially and/or logarithmically mad science
09:18 < red-001> well the person that caused me to search through the logs in question definitely qualifies as mad
09:18 < nmz787_i> backlink?
09:18 < red-001> so I guess I'm in the right place
09:18 < kanzure> which person?
09:18 < red-001> they go by the nick of OldCoder
09:18 < kanzure> oh, yeah i banned him
09:19 < red-001> he is a bit doxxy
09:19 < kanzure> not worth our time really
09:19 < red-001> wow
09:19 < red-001> well I approve
09:20 < red-001> what's nootropic?
09:21 < red-001> I heard of all the other things in the topic
09:21 < kanzure> drugs that improve memory, intelligence.
09:21 < red-001> oh
09:21 < red-001> didn't know there was a special name for them
09:23 < red-001> well this place sounds intersting
09:24 < kanzure> what is your backgroud?
09:24 < kanzure> .. background
09:25 < red-001> what do you mean by that?
09:25 < red-001> as in education?
09:25 < kanzure> skills, super powers, areas of mad science that you specialize in
09:27 < red-001> ehh I guess considering how society would react to post scarcity
09:30 < nmz787_i> aren't we already in post-scarcity for a while? I mean, at this point it is tribalism limiting all humans/sentient-beings from sharing the wealth
09:32 < red-001> I don't think we are quite there
09:32 < red-001> maybe in 15 years
09:32 < red-001> or 10
09:37 < nmz787_i> what is still scarce?
09:38 < TMA> nmz787_i: time and human attention
09:39 < fenn> there's plenty of time and attention being wasted
09:39 < TMA> fenn: which makes the rest scarce
09:41 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=e0d9b071 Bryan Bishop: some stuff about CHRM2 and ALDH5A1 SSADH >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/genetic-modifications/
09:49 < red-001> well we still depend on oil,gas,coal,etc
09:50 < kanzure> red-001: here is a thing, http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/2017-01-26-george-church/
09:51 < red-001> what do you think of alternative nuclear reactors/fuels?
09:53 < kanzure> fenn: i think hplusroadmap is 10 years old this year?
10:07 < kanzure> "A computer program for simulating time travel and a possible 'solution' for the grandfather paradox" https://arxiv.org/abs/1609.08470
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10:14 < jcluck> the next version of human needs to not have pollen allergies
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10:23 < kanzure> "A genome-wide association meta-analysis of self-reported allergy identifies shared and allergy-specific susceptibility" http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v45/n8/full/ng.2686.html
10:23 < kanzure> "We identified 16 shared susceptibility loci with association P < 5 x 10-8, including 8 loci previously associated with asthma, as well as 4p14 near TLR1, TLR6 and TLR10 (rs2101521, P = 5.3 x 10-21); 6p21.33 near HLA-C and MICA (rs9266772, P = 3.2 x 10-12); 5p13.1 near PTGER4 (rs7720838, P = 8.2 x 10-11); 2q33.1 in PLCL1 (rs10497813, P = 6.1 x 10-10), 3q28 in LPP (rs9860547, P =...
10:23 < kanzure> ... 1.2 x 10-9); 20q13.2 in NFATC2 (rs6021270, P = 6.9 x 10-9), 4q27 in ADAD1 (rs17388568, P = 3.9 x 10-8); and 14q21.1 near FOXA1 and TTC6 (rs1998359, P = 4.8 x 10-8). We identified one locus with substantial evidence of differences in effects across allergies at 6p21.32 in the class II human leukocyte antigen (HLA) region (rs17533090, P = 1.7 x 10-12), which was strongly associat...
10:24 < kanzure> ...ed with cat allergy."
10:25 < cluckj> taking cat allergy off my plate would at least be an improvement
10:27 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=f2d4e6be Bryan Bishop: some anti-allergy stuff >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/genetic-modifications/
10:58 < nmz787_i> red-001: I'd say 'depend' is more like 'greedy dudes milking all the value from it'
10:58 < nmz787_i> cluckj: that seems a non-issue in some branches/forks... I am pretty much allergy-free
10:59 < nmz787_i> backporting is always a PITA
10:59 < cluckj> the version control system is super fucked up
11:02 < nmz787_i> data retention is an issue too, it is really hard to unarchive old commits after they've expired
11:02 < cluckj> hah
11:03 < kanzure> you going to start practicing continuous delivery?
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11:07 < Iriez> Anyone here ever mess with BCP-157, TB-500 or any other peptides? Im trying to figure out a conversion and the calculator is not making sense to my layman brain. The numbers seem wildly inaccurate.
11:08 < cluckj> I think my wife might object?
11:10 < kanzure> if she wants to be first, then that's fine.
11:17 < nmz787_i> kanzure: hmm, I'd need more build agents
11:18 < nmz787_i> I have been thinking of a microfluidic condom though... fwiw, in-line modification
11:18 < kanzure> DIY kit + turkey blaster
11:19 < nmz787_i> my go-to saying is: too much transfer loss
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13:47 < kanzure> what about irculating membrane-permeable antibodies/ligands/aptamers that connect to each other, to make the synaptic barcodes actually connect with each other on a chemical level?
13:47 < kanzure> *circulating
13:47 < kanzure> and then you use some sort of clearing protocol and pumping action to permeate the cerebral tissue
13:48 < kanzure> (or i might be misunderstanding precisely which step is broken in their procedure)
13:49 < kanzure> with the right membrane permeable ligation technique, you don't really care which barcodes get ligated to each other because you know that the diffusion of barcodes to neighboring cells has a fast drop off.. or something.
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15:37 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5V_VzRrSBI
15:37 < yoleaux> The Boring Company | Tunnels - YouTube
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17:05 < kanzure> hmph
17:08 < kanzure> http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/sim-id?Ident=HIP+4436
17:08 < kanzure> http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/sim-id?Ident=HIP+99427
17:09 < kanzure> http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/sim-id?Ident=HIP+65352
17:10 < kanzure> er, or HIP45493
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17:19 < kanzure> andytoshi: btw adlai is also studying chemistry
17:32 < nmz787_i1> you and your Boring content, kanzure
17:32 < nmz787_i1> .wik boring, OR
17:32 < yoleaux> "Boring is an unincorporated community in Clackamas County, Oregon, United States. It is located along Oregon Route 212 in the foothills of the Cascade mountain range, approximately twelve miles (19 km) southeast of Portland. The Boring Lava Field, which lies between Portland and Boring, took its namesake after the town." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boring,_OR
17:32 < nmz787_i1> .wik Boring Lava
17:32 < yoleaux> "The Boring Lava Field is an extinct Plio-Pleistocene volcanic field zone with at least 32 cinder cones and small shield volcanoes lying within a radius of 13 miles (21 km) of Kelly Butte, which is approximately 4 miles (6 km) east of downtown Portland, Oregon, in the United States." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boring_Lava_Field
17:33 < nmz787_i1> .g who discovered Boring Lava Field
17:33 < yoleaux> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boring_Lava_Field
17:33 < nmz787_i1> pfft
17:34 < nmz787_i1> "The densest concentration of volcanic vents lies west of the town of Boring, where 20 centers occur within an area of about 36 square miles. Because of this grouping near Boring, Ray Treasher (1942) first gave the name "Boring lava" to the lava, cinders, and ash which emanated from volcanic centers in the Portland area within a time span of from perhaps 10 mi Ilion to less than 1 mi Ilion years ago (Trimble, 1963)."
17:34 < nmz787_i1> so it wasn't some Boring guy
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18:22 < kanzure> yashgaroth: would significantly delayed puberty be a viable longevity approach?
18:22 < kanzure> or delayed menopause etc
18:27 < kanzure> nobody has added perfect pitch to the page yet O_o
18:29 < nmz787_i1> kanzure: FIB is back online
18:29 < nmz787_i1> are you still up for it?
18:29 < kanzure> same price?
18:29 < nmz787_i1> yes, jblake was giving me freight shipping tips too, depending on getting it boxed up though
18:30 < nmz787_i1> I also learned, though, that the seller doesn't have a forklift... but also jblake found it a bit hard to believe that one unit weighed 5000lbs
18:31 < kanzure> are you going to have to travel to go box it up?
18:31 < nmz787_i1> I haven't priced forklift rental on either end yet
18:31 < nmz787_i1> that was one idea...
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20:05 < kanzure> various people complaining about drilling machines https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14223020
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20:32 < kanzure> beep
21:08 < nmz787_i1> blop
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23:26 < justanotheruser> where do I get single piezotubes these days
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