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05:01 < anthk_> hello, I've seen a video from a guy talking about transhumanism, taking vitamin suplemments in order to tweak itself so it could learn math and H+ engineering faster.
05:01 < anthk_> Anyone have seen it? I can't remember the URL
05:07 < archels_> Ray Kurzweil?
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05:17 < kanzure> archels_: pffft.  banned.
05:17 < kanzure> nmz787_: so you can definitely move it to your place?
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05:31 < archels_> heh
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06:00 < kanzure> anthk_: vitamin supplements aren't going to significantly improve your ability to do engineering
06:00 < kanzure> unless you have a weird mutation or you're extremely deficient
06:07 < anthk_> it was a guy with a monk-like spirit
06:08 < anthk_> it monitorized even the stress levels and reading speed
06:08 < anthk_> I think it was a CEO of a H+ company, I can't remember
06:13 < kanzure> anthk_: i judge you as guilty of cheerleading; your punishment is to read everything in http:/diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/
06:14 < anthk_> I know what H+ is, I don't think that was H+, but I was interested on the behaviour to improve the self so you can learn on H+ faster
06:14 < kanzure> if you wish to appeal, you should do so immediately
06:15 < anthk_> not related to H+, I am currently with linaer algebra so I can understand neural networks
06:16 < kanzure> then you should read these http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/ai/machine-learning/
06:17 < anthk_> thanks kanzure
06:28 < adlai> speaking of things that don't really help, but give you the warm H+ fuzzies: what do yous think of 'brain training'? eg dual N-back
06:31 < adlai> (my guess is that even if it doesn't actually improve performance, it's still valuable to have a handle on degradation)
06:34 < kanzure> that's gwern territory, meh
06:36 < adlai> indeed, it's through him that i'm familiar with the term of art. before that, DnB was a phonon distribution
06:36 < kanzure> gwern stuff is exceedingly uninteresting.
06:37 < adlai> oh. is this a topical or personal judgement?
06:39 < JayDugger> Hm.
06:39 < kanzure> well he's completely evil, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10702001
06:41 < adlai> ah so he's meta-ignorant, that's too bad. (ignorant about his own areas ignorance)
06:41 < kanzure> no, it's worse
06:41 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/more-anti-gwern.txt
06:42 < kanzure> he literally published something that he *knew* was wrong
06:45 < adlai> oh well. i guess he's another H- after all
06:46 < kanzure> yep. anyway...
06:51 < adlai> in other Kurzweil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4Neivqp2K4 (music)
06:52 < kanzure> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hKG5l_TDU8
06:57  * adlai can't figure out whether the singularity is a good or bad thing [in the mind of this last music]
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07:20 < kanzure> adlai: were you around for when the conspiracy nut was in here claiming that i was going to take over the world and forcefully upload everyone and torture them for eternity?
07:22 < adlai> iirc no, but you've mentioned it before. it smells of some "pascal's basilisk" confusion.
07:25 < kanzure> good times.
07:26 < kanzure> it's too bad that rbtc hasn't picked up on that to incorporate it into their broader conspiracies
07:30 < adlai> never too late to shill "against" yourself (the sooner they see the prepostrosity of such conspiracies, the sooner they realize there may be footprints on the moon after all)
07:30 < adlai> although life is probably too short to educate the internet.
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07:55 < chris_99> just saw https://hackaday.io/project/20812-make-water-collaborative-water-purification never heard of electrocoagulation before
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08:26 < archels_> the 3D printed thread works ^_^
08:27 < archels_> radius tolerance = 0.2 mm, thread width = 0.5 mm, thread height chosen such it tapers into an equilateral triangle
08:30 < archels_> http://imgur.com/a/9svTm
08:33 < kanzure> whatcha up to
08:35 < FourFire> kanzure, some dude is trying to organize the people from that longevity community on discord in the direction of doing projects. I've told him about you and this channel, and will invite him when applicable.
08:35 < archels_> a high resolution 3D reconstruction, ultimately
08:36 < archels_> we had to first reverse engineer the thread from the platform though
08:36 < chris_99> neat archels_, was that done with SLA
08:38 < archels_> yeah, it has a rated resolution of 25 microns. the part took 1h15m to print
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08:40 < chris_99> cool, what printer is it that you have?
08:40 < chris_99> i was curious about them, for printing jewellery models, you could make a mould from
08:42 < archels_> it's a Form 1 from FormLabs
08:44 < archels_> hmm, making moulds would be interesting, yeah
08:45 < archels_> would you make a negative cast from the 3D print first, and then use that for the actual final material (e.g. metal)?
08:47 < chris_99> i'm not sure what the technical term is (i dont know what negative cast means) but i'd look like that - http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/1053110/17915900/0/1293697557/jewellery_rubber_mold_silicone_mould.jpg like you'd pour silicone around it afaik
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08:54 < archels_> ah
08:54 < archels_> is it possible to make metal objects this way at all?
08:55 < chris_99> yeah, you pour gold into the mould
09:00 < chris_99> like afaik you would make the rubber mould with the model in, then cut it in half, remove the model, clamp the moulds together, pour gold into the sprue
09:01 < chris_99> for example see - https://youtu.be/ciFnhRk5p_Q?t=109 they're making a mould of an existing ring with a sprue
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09:11 < chris_99> hmm maybe i'm wrong, i thought you poured the gold directly into the mould maybe not
09:13 < chris_99> yeah sorry, it seems, you make the mould, then pour some kind of wax in
09:13 < chris_99> and do the lost wax method
09:13 < chris_99> from then
09:15 < chris_99> i'm sure i recall someone using the resin/plastic from a 3d print directly in the lost-wax method, but im not sure how well that works
09:16 < chris_99> http://www.instructables.com/id/From-3d-printed-part-to-metal-the-lost-plaabs-me/ seems it does work
09:19 < archels_> ahh right
09:20 < chris_99> yeah i got it confused, so you either use the 3d print like wax, and let it burnout in the lost-wax method, or you make a mould and create wax models
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09:34 < kanzure> human genome project in the news today: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/02/synthetic-dna-scientist-says-it-could-be-inside-humans-within-5-years.html
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09:44 < nmz787_i> i've got 4 to 8.5 months of full-time work planned to get to something that seems to be a minimum viable microfluidic DNA synthesizer... worked on it late last night, so didn't get as much thinking done efficiently, so will probably revisit and add more work
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09:47 < nmz787_i> kanzure: yeah I have somewhere to put it, back corner of my garage. I'd probably push myself to add a new wall or two, and probably a door... so I could have some dust isolation
09:48 < nmz787_i> kanzure: do you have any ideas for it?
09:48 < nmz787_i> using it
09:48 < nmz787_i> kanzure: I want you to get some satisfaction from this purchase, unless you don't need that
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09:49 < nmz787_i> kanzure: maybe we'll hav eour own HGP protest greet us
09:49 < nmz787_i> that would be... romantic?
09:49 < nmz787_i> the universe playing hard to get
09:49 < kanzure> i don't really have a specific project in mind for a FIB right now
09:53 < kanzure> "Quantitative assessment of timing, efficiency, specificity, and genetic mosaicism of CRISPR/Cas9 mediated gene editing of hemoglobin beta gene in rhesus monkey embryos" https://academic.oup.com/hmg/article-abstract/3746922/Quantitative-assessment-of-timing-efficiency
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11:08 < nmz787_i> kanzure: well, if I just need to convince you you click bid, please do so.
11:09 < nmz787_i> kanzure: I also wonder if you bid 1500, will it say 'reserve not met'
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13:35 < kanzure> Srtagalicia: hi.
13:36 < Srtagalicia> @kanzure hi, i'm new here so, please, forgive mi mistakes until I learn.
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14:46 < kanzure> "We will be surveying the audience during the meeting. We are asking each presenter to send us one question that they would like us to ask the attendees. Please send this to me by Wednesday, May 3nd."
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14:56 < kanzure> let's say that a certain bird has told me that facebook is willing to put $10M into a mutantpedia--- what projects would you propose?
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16:03 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14248827
16:03 < yoleaux> CRISPR eliminates HIV-1 infection in live animals | Hacker News
16:04 < kanzure> "In vivo exclusion of HIV-1 provirus by saCas9 and multiple sgRNAs in animal models" http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1525001617301107
16:04 < kanzure> https://www.ll.mit.edu/news/DRACO.html
16:04 < kanzure> http://www.businessinsider.com/todd-rider-draco-crowdfunding-broad-spectrum-antiviral-2015-12
16:05 < kanzure> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dracos-may-be-effective-against-all-viruses#/
16:05 < cluckj> paying someone to make the basic structure usable?
16:08 < kanzure> hm?
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17:15 < cluckj> for mutantpedia
17:39 < kanzure> cluckj: well, i was thinking more like, "facebook should look at likely sleep data and figure out families that have interesting sleep superpowers, and then send 23andme kits/other genotyping services/genome sequencing"
17:40 < cluckj> oh
17:40 < kanzure> or, "facebook should put genotyping services near the front gates of music concerts and have users do a sample plus link up their facebook account for future questions"
17:41 < kanzure> or, "let users opt-in and do free form answers to survey questions, then do analysis on their typed answers, to correlate their phenotypes to their genotypes"
17:41 < kanzure> or even better: have friends type up interesting phenotype information about their friends
17:51 < cluckj> those don't sound evil enough
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18:21 < kanzure> why does it have to be evil
18:31 < cluckj> they do creepy research on users?
18:31 < cluckj> what about colorblindness genes?
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18:34 < cluckj> that's a relatively easy phenotype to test for on a computer (not that folks wouldn't already know)
18:45 < cluckj> the evil version I'm thinking of could be something like "comb user data for signs of depression and send them a testing kit to match genotypes to phenotypes"
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20:01 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=6b948c21 Bryan Bishop: transcript: confidential transactions (gmaxwell) >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/gmaxwell-confidential-transactions/
20:04 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=81096c42 Bryan Bishop: tweeter link >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/gmaxwell-confidential-transactions/
20:05 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/gmaxwell-confidential-transactions/
20:12 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=5dbc4aa9 Bryan Bishop: more links >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/gmaxwell-confidential-transactions/
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