--- Log opened Thu May 04 00:00:44 2017 00:05 < JayDugger> Writing fan fiction? 00:08 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:28 -!- preview [~preview@2407:7000:842d:4000::2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:36 -!- jtimon [~quassel@9.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:48 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:36 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@pool-108-52-166-30.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:47 < nmz787_> so who wants to bet on how optimistic this gantt chart for my project timeline is? http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/hidden/plan.png I need to look at it again when I'm not tired, to see if I missed anything, there's probably some more spin-coating and litho optimization that will need done 01:47 -!- m4l3z [~m4l3z@2a01cb040226f200b9e57c6930d2e475.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:52 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-222-233.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:03 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:15 -!- Reventlov [~reventlov@unaffiliated/reventlov] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:18 -!- m4l3z [~m4l3z@2a01cb040226f200b9e57c6930d2e475.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:31 -!- Reventlov [~reventlov@unaffiliated/reventlov] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:46 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:51 < TMA> nmz787_: have you already applied corrections to your estimates? or are these numbers raw? 02:54 < TMA> nmz787_: the conventinal wisdom is: good estimate = k * raw estimate (for some k >= 2) or good estimate = raw estimate + L [step up units] 02:55 < TMA> nmz787_: for L=1: 1 hour -> 2 days ; 1 day -> 2 weeks; 1 week -> 2 months ; 1 month -> 2 years ... 03:05 -!- anthk_2 [~anthk_@235.82-130-172.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:10 -!- anthk_2 [~anthk_@235.82-130-172.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:11 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-222-233.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:19 -!- anachronick [~kvirc@a85-138-147-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:25 -!- anthk_2 [~anthk_@70.85-84-113.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:56 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:56 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:01 < pasky> nmz787_: you will be not visiting any conferences, work over christmas, have no breaks / vacations? 04:23 -!- augur [~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:843:f62a:e4ac:1983] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:28 -!- augur [~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:843:f62a:e4ac:1983] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:56 -!- cevi__ [~zeb@128.12.245.10] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:57 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@128.12.245.10] has quit [Quit: Quit] 05:13 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-222-233.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:26 -!- drewbot [~cinch@54.162.124.163] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:33 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:34 < kanzure> night: anissimov changed about 6 years ago. 05:36 < kanzure> nmz787_: that seems like a fast timeline for a dna synthesizer. especially if you have valves. 05:36 < kanzure> nmz787_: phd students have spent >1 year just to track down a single problem with one-of-twelve of their reactions. 05:43 -!- ExeciN [ExeciN@bnc.stormbit.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 05:50 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:54 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:57 -!- ExeciN [ExeciN@bnc.stormbit.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:05 -!- anthk_2 [~anthk_@70.85-84-113.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:37 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:56 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:32 -!- augur [~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:b156:2f65:6dcd:cdeb] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:36 -!- augur [~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:b156:2f65:6dcd:cdeb] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:42 -!- augur [~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:b156:2f65:6dcd:cdeb] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:45 -!- jtimon [~quassel@9.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:09 -!- Regex_ [~Cara@2601:1c0:8500:5edb:840b:d18b:ff8c:7e90] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:18 -!- drewbot [~cinch@54.167.161.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:39 -!- anthk_ [~ander@70.85-84-113.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:42 -!- anthk_ [~ander@70.85-84-113.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:47 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-222-233.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:56 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:14 -!- esmerelda [~mabel@2601:602:9603:a3f8:65e5:be41:3c9c:c816] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:24 < nsh> .title http://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/devices/selfhealing-transistors-for-chipscale-starships 10:24 < yoleaux> Self-Healing Transistors for Chip-Scale Starships - IEEE Spectrum 10:24 < nsh> via ##hamradio 10:37 -!- sachy [~sachy@nat.brmlab.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:48 -!- augur [~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:b156:2f65:6dcd:cdeb] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:47 < anthk_> this channel is awesome, it merges some cool hobbies into one 12:08 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:11 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:47 -!- esmerelda [~mabel@2601:602:9603:a3f8:65e5:be41:3c9c:c816] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:04 -!- jtimon [~quassel@9.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:20 -!- preview [~preview@2407:7000:842d:4000::2] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:29 < nsh> (why couldn't you generate a protective magnetosphere using the solar sail?) 13:29 < nsh> (you're already beaming gigawatts at it, just leech some to circulate a core or whatever) 13:30 < fenn> there was recently a paper about doing that for shielding mars' atmosphere from the solar wind 13:30 < fenn> superkuh knows much more about it than i do 13:30 < nsh> oh, seems you can combine the two for 'magnetospheric' propulsion 13:30 < nsh> but not without problems 13:30 < nsh> http://www.minimagnetosphere.rl.ac.uk/downloads/pdfs/11Luis%20De%20Silva%20physical%20model%20M2P2.pdf 13:35 < fenn> an artificial magnetosphere is probably unnecessary for space habitats because you can just hide behind a column of water for the duration of a solar storm 13:35 -!- jtimon [~quassel@9.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:36 < fenn> you'd need the water anyway 13:37 < kanzure> http://gnusha.org/logs/2017-03-05.log 13:39 < superkuh> I have firmly believed it would not work. I've also firmly believed it would work. Right now I'm firmly not sure. But it seems feasible enough to deserve much more investigation. 13:50 -!- NikopolSohru [~NSohru@185.107.80.181] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:53 < nsh> suggests you need a lot of power: https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/3772/how-much-power-would-a-spacecrafts-magnetic-shield-require 13:53 < nsh> (500kW) 13:53 < nsh> superkuh, <3 13:54 -!- NikopolSohru [~NSohru@185.107.80.181] has quit [Client Quit] 14:09 < kanzure> nsh: see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13796364 14:09 < nsh> ty 14:10 < kanzure> er i mean https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13796608 14:10 < nsh> ty 14:21 -!- preview [~preview@103.226.32.30] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:35 -!- sivoais_ is now known as sivoais 14:35 -!- sivoais [~zaki@199.19.225.239] has quit [Changing host] 14:35 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:52 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:58 -!- preview_ [~preview@103.226.32.30] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:58 -!- preview [~preview@103.226.32.30] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:40 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:32 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:34 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:52 < kanzure> aaaaaaaaaaaaaa 16:56 -!- Solvaring [~solvaring@c-73-158-236-83.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:01 < cluckj> skreeeeeeeee 17:06 < kanzure> you too? 17:07 -!- ExeciN [ExeciN@bnc.stormbit.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 17:14 < cluckj> yeah 17:14 -!- ExeciN [ExeciN@bnc.stormbit.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:17 < cluckj> :/ 17:33 -!- CaptHindsight [~2020@unaffiliated/capthindsight] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving"] 17:39 -!- augur [~augur@104.236.181.226] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:51 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-222-233.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:02 -!- jtimon [~quassel@9.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:05 < kanzure> 17:26 <+kanzure> yes now that ted chiang has money maybe they will do another movie about his stuff 18:05 < kanzure> 18:02 <+deltab> I've read that a couple of other stories have been optioned, but not which ones 18:07 < cluckj> sweet 18:20 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:39 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:39 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-222-233.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:59 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:cd4d:3300:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:02 < kanzure> "Improving nanopore reads raw signal alignment" https://arxiv.org/abs/1705.01620 https://twitter.com/BioPapers/status/860300178493812738 19:04 < kanzure> broad institute genome engineering meeting is this weekend, our SF people should go to that 19:04 < kanzure> oh it's in cambridge. wtf. 19:04 < kanzure> http://workshop.genome-engineering.org/ 19:04 < kanzure> webcast registration http://alumic.mit.edu/s/1314/03-alumni/wide.aspx?sid=1314&pgid=37161&gid=13&cid=57738&ecid=57738&post_id=0 19:05 < kanzure> right, well, i have clearly misplaced where broad institute physically is 19:10 < kanzure> "Deep neural networks in computational neuroscience" http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/05/04/133504 19:12 < kanzure> "The fuzzy regulations surrounding DIY synthetic biology" http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2017/05/the_fuzzy_regulations_surrounding_diy_synthetic_biology.html 19:17 < kanzure> "Progenitor T-cell differentiation from hematopoietic stem cells using Delta-like-4 and VCAM-1" https://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/v14/n5/full/nmeth.4258.html 19:17 < kanzure> re: thymus organoid stuff. 19:20 < kanzure> "A survey of genome editing activity for 16 cpf1 orthologs" http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/05/04/134015 20:08 < justanotheruser> where can I order high precision 3d printed parts? 20:53 -!- q4 [~q4@user-94-254-238-40.play-internet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:53 < fenn> shapeways? 20:56 < fenn> they claim +- 0.2 mm over 100mm with "high definition acrylate" DLP resin 20:57 < fenn> with 50 micron layer thickness it's probably much better than that in the Z dimension 20:57 < fenn> in any case the parts have very smooth surface finish 20:59 < fenn> the wax jet material option is pretty good too 21:00 < fenn> shapeways is probably more expensive than other options but they have been around a long time 21:06 -!- preview_ [~preview@103.226.32.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:14 < justanotheruser> I'll check them out, thanks 21:22 -!- q4 [~q4@user-94-254-238-40.play-internet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:48 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:01 -!- preview_ [~preview@2407:7000:842d:4000::2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:05 < nmz787_> howdy, I've yet to go through the day's logs 22:07 < nmz787_> TMA: no, haven't applied corrections like that, mostly just wanted to get SOME kind of numbers and plan together... I can add more work or add length 22:08 < nmz787_> pasky: haha, yeah I don't know if I assumed those weekends would be in there or not, good point 22:09 < nmz787_> kanzure: yeah, but I am trying to be agile and all that jazz... get through the whole process, and maybe attract co-conspirators, investors... general pathfinding and running through it all once-over. Obv if I get stuck on step 2, there won't be a step 20 though. 22:15 < nmz787_> kanzure: there is a Broad in L.A. I think, but different funding background than the one in Cambridge 22:29 -!- augur [~augur@104.236.181.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:51 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:cd4d:3300:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:56 -!- augur [~augur@104.236.181.226] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:23 -!- augur [~augur@104.236.181.226] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:27 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:31 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:55 -!- augur [~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:f514:ad7d:dd3b:77c9] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:57 -!- augur [~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:f514:ad7d:dd3b:77c9] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log closed Fri May 05 00:00:45 2017