--- Log opened Sun May 07 00:00:47 2017 00:18 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0Ani2aw6cM 00:18 < yoleaux> HGP-write: A Grand Challenge for Genome Engineering - YouTube 00:28 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:31 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/casa_tuthill/status/857273754283417600 00:31 < yoleaux> A short movie about my lab's research on fly walking and proprioception, animated by the amazing Sophie Tintori: https://vimeo.com/user9183457/flyproprioception?ref=tw-share ... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-WldJ_UQAABqKl.jpg (@casa_tuthill) 01:09 -!- augur [~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:84b4:6542:a7fb:afab] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:33 < kanzure> .title https://cibolo.us/pipermail/open_electroporator/2017-May/000513.html 01:33 < yoleaux> [Open_electroporator] First test 01:33 < kanzure> https://cibolo.us/pipermail/open_electroporator/attachments/20170502/2c8eb1f8/attachment-0001.jpg 01:34 < kanzure> "Here is a scope shot of a pulse train firing off. Top trace is ADC divider volts, 0.1V with a 10X probe, so 1V/div. Bottom trace is the output HV with a 100X probe 5V * 100 = 500V/div." 01:50 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-222-233.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:33 -!- augur [~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:84b4:6542:a7fb:afab] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:46 -!- sachy [~sachy@nat.brmlab.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:56 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:59 -!- preview__ [~preview@2407:7000:842d:4009:bb98:6906:19d5:2639] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:36 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@108.52.166.30] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:42 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:48 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@2604:2000:7055:c900:b1c8:f626:ac14:f8e6] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:50 -!- bsm1175321 is now known as bsm117532 04:53 -!- Cory [~Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:57 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@pppoe.95-55-183-149.dynamic.avangarddsl.ru] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:04 -!- jtimon [~quassel@9.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:09 -!- m4l3z [~m4l3z@2a01cb040226f200f561ce518ddf50de.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:10 -!- m4l3z [~m4l3z@2a01cb040226f200f561ce518ddf50de.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Client Quit] 05:36 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@47.185.237.246] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:43 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:49 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@2604:2000:7055:c900:b1c8:f626:ac14:f8e6] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:50 -!- TC [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:51 -!- TC is now known as Guest46774 05:51 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:52 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:54 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:11 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@pppoe.95-55-183-149.dynamic.avangarddsl.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:27 -!- drewbot [~cinch@54.196.17.145] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:28 -!- drewbot [~cinch@54.242.5.43] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:42 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:44 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:50 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:09 -!- anachronick [~kvirc@a85-138-147-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:11 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:13 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:15 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:30 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:36 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:00 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:16 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:32 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:53 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:02 -!- pompolic [~A@unaffiliated/pompolic] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:02 -!- pompolic [~A@unaffiliated/pompolic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:16 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:16 -!- poppingtonic1 [~brian@105.57.233.229] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:18 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@pppoe.95-55-183-149.dynamic.avangarddsl.ru] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:21 -!- poppingtonic1 [~brian@105.57.233.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:22 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:25 < kanzure> jrayhawk: which one of these are important? https://www.ebi.ac.uk/gwas/search?query=fasting 12:28 < kanzure> "STXBP5L and facial aging" http://www.jidonline.org/article/S0022-202X(15)36201-1/fulltext (rs322458) 12:55 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:04 -!- Cory [~Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:05 -!- preview [~preview@2407:7000:842d:4000::2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:14 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vlswnrhenkslksdy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:15 -!- preview [~preview@2407:7000:842d:4000::2] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:19 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:22 -!- esmerelda [~mabel@2601:602:9603:a3f8:65e5:be41:3c9c:c816] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:22 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:25 -!- esmerelda [~mabel@2601:602:9603:a3f8:65e5:be41:3c9c:c816] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:00 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-222-233.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:00 < kanzure> Stephan Zuchner, University of Miami Leonard M. Miller School of Medicine, "An In-Situ Digital Annotation System to Document and Safeguard GP-write Applications" 14:00 < kanzure> wat 14:01 < kanzure> Kenji Tsuge, Kobe University, "Long and precise genomic DNA construction using Bacillus subtilis" 14:02 < kanzure> Bogumil Karas, University of Western Ontario, "Development of a Pipeline for Precision Cloning and Effective Storage of Large Synthetic or Natural Human DNA Fragments" 14:08 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:08 -!- preview [~preview@103.23.18.14] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:13 < emeraldgreen> >Bogumil Karas, University of Western Ontario, "Development of a Pipeline for Precision Cloning and Effective Storage of Large Synthetic or Natural Human DNA Fragments" 14:13 < emeraldgreen> Hmm, looks like this is going to mammal-scale chromosome synthesis 14:13 < emeraldgreen> I wonder if epigenetics will be a dealbreaker. I hope not. 14:14 < emeraldgreen> Yeast are fine with synthetic chromosomes, but yeast are simplest of eukaryotes 14:15 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@pppoe.95-55-183-149.dynamic.avangarddsl.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:17 < kanzure> yes they are doing genome synthesis 14:39 -!- kenn123 [~kenn123@2607:fea8:921f:fa3d:8841:518c:8aa6:e01e] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:40 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@pppoe.95-55-183-149.dynamic.avangarddsl.ru] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:40 < kanzure> esmerelda: yes it's re: human genome synthesis project 14:41 < kanzure> er.. emeraldgreen, rather. 14:45 < emeraldgreen> it'd be very cool & useful to have some software to model morphogenesis at the cell & cell-signaling level 14:47 < emeraldgreen> ... and have more general systems biology models 14:47 < kanzure> nah that all sounds hard, let's just replace biology with something simpler and more easily understood 14:48 < emeraldgreen> without these capabilities benefits of synthesizing a whole human genome are quite limited (not zero though - as with yeast, synthetic chromosomes are more clean - from transposons and other genetic trash - and more easily modified) 14:49 < emeraldgreen> >let's just replace bio 14:49 < emeraldgreen> I guess it's an ironic reference to over-optimistic futurists, kek 14:51 < kanzure> no, there's a lot of cruft in human biology 15:03 < kanzure> .wik xeno nucleic acid 15:03 < yoleaux> "Xeno nucleic acid (XNA) is a synthetic alternative to the natural nucleic acids DNA and RNA as information-storing biopolymers that differs in the sugar backbone. As of 2011, at least six types of synthetic sugars have been shown to form nucleic acid backbones that can store and retrieve genetic information." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeno_nucleic_acid 15:03 < kanzure> "XNA exhibits a variety of structural chemical changes relative to its natural counterparts. Types of synthetic 'XNA' created so far include 1,5-anhydrohexitol nucleic acid (HNA) and cyclohexene nucleic acid (CeNA). Threose nucleic acid (TNA), glycol nucleic acid (GNA), locked nucleic acid (LNA), and peptide nucleic acid (PNA)" 15:03 < kanzure> i always thought that the X in XNA referred to a chemical name startin with x 15:03 < kanzure> *starting 15:05 -!- jtimon [~quassel@9.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:10 -!- kenn123 [~kenn123@2607:fea8:921f:fa3d:8841:518c:8aa6:e01e] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:12 -!- satori__ [satori@dicerion.neg9.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:19 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:8d89:5a57:2e3a:2fa1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:21 -!- mf1008_ [~mf1008@unaffiliated/mf1008] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:22 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Douhet, mf1008, wrldpcmbl, satori_ 15:22 -!- mf1008_ is now known as mf1008 15:39 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:40 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:42 -!- wrldpcmbl [sid145438@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rpsabgbmyhviykbm] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:29 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:8d89:5a57:2e3a:2fa1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:55 < emeraldgreen> kanzure XNA is interesting, reminds me about synthetic protocells 17:04 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vlswnrhenkslksdy] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:41 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:44 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:27 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@pppoe.95-55-183-149.dynamic.avangarddsl.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:31 -!- Jen [~Jen3@86.22.170.60] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:14 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-222-233.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:45 < jrayhawk> kanzure: not seeing anything resembling results on that page; you're on your own 19:46 < jrayhawk> http://www.sens.org/research/extramural/scaling-up-glucosepane-research or i could just maintain high glutathione levels, or I could just not be diabetic or ketogenic and thus not have to worry about dicarbonyl production? 19:47 < jrayhawk> sens is so weird 19:49 < jrayhawk> TBH ketosis upregulates Nrf2, so I guess the methylglyoxal is already not an issue there 19:50 < jrayhawk> so much metabolic syndrome terminal pathology, so little regard for etiology 19:50 -!- JenElizabeth [~Jen3@86.22.170.60] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:52 -!- Jen [~Jen3@86.22.170.60] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:11 -!- preview [~preview@103.23.18.14] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:38 -!- Jen [~Jen3@cpc76808-brmb10-2-0-cust571.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:40 -!- anachronick [~kvirc@a85-138-147-224.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:42 -!- JenElizabeth [~Jen3@86.22.170.60] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:48 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:03 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-222-233.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:16 -!- SuperJen [~Jen3@cpc76808-brmb10-2-0-cust571.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:19 -!- Jen [~Jen3@cpc76808-brmb10-2-0-cust571.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:19 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: wrldpcmbl, justan0theruser 23:20 -!- Netsplit over, joins: justan0theruser 23:23 -!- wrldpcmbl [sid145438@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gelinbabkaofxuhk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:34 -!- preview [~preview@2407:7000:842d:4000::2] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Mon May 08 00:00:48 2017