--- Log opened Wed Jul 19 00:00:53 2017 00:05 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:21 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:22 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:34 -!- augur [~augur@73.189.251.68] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:38 -!- augur [~augur@73.189.251.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:02 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:03 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-078-193.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:08 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@110.141.40.86] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:08 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@110.141.40.86] has quit [Changing host] 01:08 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:19 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:24 < archels_> does someone have the link where they turned a flatbad scanner into a super-high-res photography setup? 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07:11 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-izvrdijlkhnpmaqt] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:35 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-078-193.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:56 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@91.177.138.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:01 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/eboyden3/status/887308430901473280 08:01 < yoleaux> Just posted to http://expansionmicroscopy.org/ the protocol for expansion microscopy of human clinical specimens (expansion pathology or ExPath). (@eboyden3) 08:01 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/eboyden3/status/886973931332218884 08:01 < yoleaux> Nature Biotechnology: expansion microscopy of human specimens may enable better diagnoses of cancer & other diseases http://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nbt.3892.html (@eboyden3) 08:01 < kanzure> .title http://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nbt.3892.html 08:01 < yoleaux> Nanoscale imaging of clinical specimens using pathology-optimized expansion microscopy : Nature Biotechnology : Nature Research 08:02 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/srikipedia/status/886527297897058305 08:02 < yoleaux> Och, A cannae finde nae tweet 08:04 < kanzure> "Electron microscopic reconstruction of functionally identified cells in a neural integrator" http://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(17)30730-3 https://twitter.com/neuroecology/status/886575702912495620 08:05 < kanzure> http://www.kurzweilai.net/projecting-a-visual-image-directly-into-the-brain-bypassing-the-eyes 08:05 < kanzure> "goal of a $21.6 million DARPA award to the University of California, Berkeley (UC Berkeley), one of six organizations funded by DARPA's Neural Engineering System Design program announced this week to develop implantable, biocompatible neural interfaces that can compensate for visual or hearing deficits" 08:05 < kanzure> "A holographic projection created by a spatial light modulator would illuminate ("write") one set of neurons at one depth -- those patterned by the letter a, for example -- and simultaneously illuminate other sets of neurons at other depths (z level) or in regions of the visual cortex, such as neurons with b or c patterns. That creates three-dimensional holograms that can light up hundre... 08:05 < kanzure> ...ds of thousands of neurons at multiple depths, just under the cortical surface." 08:29 -!- Asa9 [~Asa9@108-75-18-87.lightspeed.clmboh.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:36 < jcluck> I guess I should follow eric topol instead of just tossing shade at him when he ends up on my twitter feed :\ 08:37 -!- jcluck is now known as cluckj 08:38 < kanzure> hm? 09:00 < cluckj> just trying to evangelize diybio into some higher-profile spaces 09:00 < cluckj> it seems like a bunch of institutional scientists are getting interested in the kinds of projects that diybio has been working on for a long time 09:09 < cluckj> and raise my profile too since it's my area of expertise, aaaand I need a better job 09:18 < kanzure> researchgate spam:"IMPORTANT: A user glanced at the profile page of a researcher that wrote a paper that cited a paper that cited one of your papers!" 09:18 -!- m4l3z [~m4l3z@LFbn-1-4235-26.w92-169.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:18 -!- m4l3z [~m4l3z@LFbn-1-4235-26.w92-169.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:22 < kanzure> how to DoS attack researchgate: get a list of their users, find some previous papers, make 1000 papers that each cite 1000 other papers, and the paper contents can just be "Researchgate is fucking spam." 09:22 < kanzure> this will bring their system down to a halt, due to their O(n^2) notification nonsense. 09:44 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:49 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:51 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:401d:16d4:b533:5824] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:51 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:401d:16d4:b533:5824] has quit [Changing host] 09:51 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:10 -!- jtimon [~quassel@102.30.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:33 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-twevqubttsygqibt] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:55 < cluckj> hah 11:07 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:31 -!- u_nuSLASHkm8 [~111111111@77.234.42.172] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:33 -!- u_nuSLASHkm8 [~111111111@77.234.42.172] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 12:26 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-izvrdijlkhnpmaqt] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 12:39 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/kanzure/status/887758840426635271 12:39 < yoleaux> With DNA/bacteria (or nanobots?) + public key crypto, it should be possible to make cryptographically-secure blood oaths. (@kanzure) 12:43 -!- tinyurl_comSLASH [~ycpm5ry3@199.189.106.247] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:44 -!- tinyurl_comSLASH [~ycpm5ry3@199.189.106.247] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 12:45 -!- sachy [~sachy@nat.brmlab.cz] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 12:48 < kanzure> my blood oath technique is a cheap trick: at best it allows mixed blood to make a multisignature, but it's really just web-of-trust/PKI under the hood. 13:05 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:08 < cluckj> that is a great idea 13:21 < kanzure> thank you, now give me your damn blood 13:22 < cluckj> what oath am I swearing 13:22 < kanzure> yes 13:23 < cluckj> I can't really argue with that 13:43 < nmz787> kanzure: where is the blood+nanobot combo stored? 13:43 < nmz787> do we need lots of EDTA and a -80C freezer? 13:46 < kanzure> finally a crypto product applicable to gangsters and mobs 13:47 < kanzure> you could also do blood seals on envelopes 13:48 < kanzure> maaku: hey what about a blood stamps, where the blood is also making a cryptographic-signature. 13:53 < nmz787> was just thinking blood rots 13:53 < kanzure> clots? 13:54 < nmz787> no, rots 13:54 < nmz787> as in, goes rotten, gets destroyed, eaten by bacteria, etc... 13:57 -!- brujo_biologica [~brujo@50-248-185-14-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:58 < nmz787> the new "guns don't kill people, people kill people" would be "roundup ready plants don't kill people, roundup kills people" 14:04 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:09 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:13 -!- preview [~preview@2407:7000:842d:4026:49b:aa53:f0af:a741] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:14 -!- sachy [~sachy@nat.brmlab.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:45 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@91.177.138.19] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:08 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:19 -!- sachy [~sachy@nat.brmlab.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:31 < fenn> roundup doesn't kill people 15:35 < nmz787> fenn: if you drink enough I bet it will, even if from hypo/hyperneutremia or something 15:35 < nmz787> everything has an ld50, right? 15:37 -!- preview [~preview@2407:7000:842d:4026:49b:aa53:f0af:a741] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:43 < nmz787> .wik Magnetic shark repellent 15:43 < yoleaux> "Magnetic shark repellents utilize permanent magnets, which exploit the sensitivity of the Ampullae of Lorenzini in sharks and rays (electrosense). This organ is not found on bony fishes (teleosts), therefore, this type of shark repellent is selective to sharks and rays." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_shark_repellent 16:19 < jrayhawk> https://www.hindawi.com/journals/bmri/2014/179691/fig1/ reminder that there's a difference between glyphosate and roundup 16:20 < jrayhawk> and that roundup is actually very poorly studied 16:27 < jrayhawk> https://www.hindawi.com/journals/bmri/2014/179691/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1764160/ 16:38 < streety> this really makes a big difference, especially in the context of "if you drink enough I bet it will [kill you]" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3325481/ this was a study I was involved with on organophosphates. Despite the links of organophosphates to things like sarin and RDX it was the choice of solvents used that massively worsened the mortality. 16:53 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:54 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:56 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:22 < fenn> having a hard time reconciling roundup's oral LD50 of 5000 mg/kg and unmeasurable dermal toxicity with the bmri paper's 63ppm 17:23 < fenn> is the roundup LD50 actually not 5000 mg/kg? because they were measuring glyphosate? 17:49 < docl> https://www.reddit.com/r/IsaacArthur/comments/6nd4ui/leovator_space_elevator_for_70m_lifts_5_tons_per/ 17:50 < docl> Someone trying to work out the math for minimum viable Orbital Ring to bootstrap from. 18:02 -!- danfox [~danfox@vulpinedesigns.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:03 -!- danfox [~danfox@vulpinedesigns.co.uk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:06 -!- Darius [~quassel@66-215-89-229.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:15 < cluckj> LD50 is how much it takes to kill you fast, I don't think it takes into account teratogenicity 18:15 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:17 < cluckj> glyphosate might not be poisonous, but when you mix it with UNDISCLOSED SUPER POISON I guess the mixture is pretty toxic 18:23 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@188.227.115.178] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:29 -!- indiebio [~quassel@2a05:d018:c1e:8d00:c473:4128:ae2d:2c36] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:29 -!- indiebio [~quassel@2a05:d018:c1e:8d00:c473:4128:ae2d:2c36] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:04 -!- Darius [~quassel@66-215-89-229.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:04 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-078-193.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:08 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@110.141.40.86] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:08 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@110.141.40.86] has quit [Changing host] 19:08 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:13 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:20 < mrdata> cluckj, wheres the toxicity info on glyphosate? 19:24 < cluckj> http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/extoxnet/dienochlor-glyphosate/glyphosate-ext.html 19:35 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:54 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:02 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:36 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:cb5:6357:5e55:2113] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:36 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:cb5:6357:5e55:2113] has quit [Changing host] 21:36 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:45 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:46 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:cb5:6357:5e55:2113] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:46 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:cb5:6357:5e55:2113] has quit [Changing host] 21:46 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:53 -!- jtimon [~quassel@102.30.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:20 -!- kwgwk [~kwgwk@boole.london.hackspace.org.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:50 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:51 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:55 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:08 -!- preview [~preview@2407:7000:842d:4026:49b:aa53:f0af:a741] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:16 -!- preview [~preview@2407:7000:842d:4026:49b:aa53:f0af:a741] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:16 -!- augur [~augur@c-73-189-251-68.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:21 -!- augur [~augur@c-73-189-251-68.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:22 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:24 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] --- Log closed Thu Jul 20 00:00:54 2017