--- Log opened Sat Jul 29 00:00:34 2017
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00:42 < aeiousomething> hello
00:42 < yoleaux> 28 Jul 2017 15:39Z <nmz787> aeiousomething: isn't provigil pretty cheap in India?
00:42 < aeiousomething> whoa.. thanks yoleaux
00:43 < aeiousomething> it is.. but it's sketchy to buy it
00:43 < aeiousomething> medical store people will sell it to you under the table because usually it doesn't move as fast
00:43 < aeiousomething> but there's a reason it doesn't move as fast
00:43 < aeiousomething> it's only prescribed for narcolepsy and another disease that's even rarer
00:44 < aeiousomething> and they can't sell you large batches.. one strip of 10s for a month is all they can do if you can sweet talk them into it
00:44 < aeiousomething> which is pretty useless
00:44 < aeiousomething> if you want to be functional everyday.. but then again .. I have my own reservations about pills that mask sleep deprivation issues
00:44 < aeiousomething> maybe I'm one of those fitness freaks.
00:45 < aeiousomething> I remember reading some articles on how sleep deprivation can be the most dangerous thing ever.
00:46 < aeiousomething> if you use modvigil/provigil regularly you will never know if you've been having bad/insufficient sleep.. before you know it you will be suceptable to diabetes and other bullshit
00:46 < aeiousomething> '/endwalloftext
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00:48 < aeiousomething> is yoleaux a bot that is something that replays messages when someone logs in? if so, that might just be the coolest thing ever.
00:49 < aeiousomething> Everyone hates the movie limitless but it does make it a point to tell you that you need to monitor your sleeping, eating and drinking water.. like literally keep data on it when you decide to use nootropics
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00:50 < aeiousomething> but then again, if we all slept, ate, drank water and worked out regularly... we would probably be performing at a significantly higher percentage of efficiency than we normally are to begin with
00:51 < aeiousomething> '/actualendwalloftext <- I just had my second coffee
00:56 < aeiousomething> If anyone is interested, I'm trying to experiment on myself using quantifiedmind and cambridgebrainsciences. Msg me and I will go into detail
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01:15 < maaku> aeiousomething: yoleaux is a bot
01:15 < maaku> .tell aeiousomething maaku says hello
01:15 < yoleaux> maaku: I'll pass your message to aeiousomething.
01:16 < aeiousomething> yeh I figured it out
01:16 < yoleaux> 08:15Z <maaku> aeiousomething: maaku says hello
01:16 < aeiousomething> sweet setup
01:17 < aeiousomething> maaku: do you know how to setup voice prompts in irssi or should I man up and get that "tmux version" you keep talking about
01:17 < maaku> I'm not sure what you mean by voice prompts. Audio bells? There's probably some way to configure that
01:18 < maaku> tmux probably screws with that though. I don't know.
01:52 < aeiousomething> as in .. making a noise when someone mentions my name
01:52 < aeiousomething> I treid to read up on it but most of the documentation is for linux
01:52 < aeiousomething> I'm on a mac
02:25 < archels_> aliexpress search query: "battery sander machine"
02:26 < archels_> AI helpfully suggesting related search terms: "sex machine"
02:28 < maaku> don't leave us in suspense. did you get any results?
02:37 < archels_> I found a cute 12V polisher, yes
02:37  * archels_ runs
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03:22 < kanzure> hmph
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03:41 < kanzure> "Neuromorphic computing with nanoscale spintronic oscillators" https://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v547/n7664/full/nature23011.html https://twitter.com/nature/status/890938419702005760
03:42 < kanzure> "Competition for a limited supply of synaptic building blocks predicts multiplicative synaptic normalization and heterosynaptic plasticity" http://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/07/21/166819 https://twitter.com/ItsNeuronal/status/890980837784735745
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04:01 < archels_> ah, Jochen Triesch. he's a cool guy, does some really cool work
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06:01 < aeiousomething> hello
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07:29 < docl> aeiousomething: modafinil doesn't keep you up as much as coffee does. but you don't want to be taking it late in the day (best to avoid coffee late in the day as well).
07:31 < docl> I usually find my coffee consumption dropping when I take modafinil.
07:31 < aeiousomething> docl: it's complicated
07:32 < aeiousomething> I might sound like a I'm crazy in the coconuts but it feels like I need to have a ritual with any stimulants
07:32 < aeiousomething> including coffee
07:32 < aeiousomething> coffe actually doesn't help me..
07:32 < aeiousomething> it makes my ADHD worse
07:32 < aeiousomething> but it's all I have when I have nothing..
07:32 < aeiousomething> modafinil/adderall help .. but they
07:32 < docl> hmm... mix modafinil with a beverage? doesn't taste great
07:32 < aeiousomething> mentally hurt for the lack of a better term
07:33 < aeiousomething> adderall is the worst
07:33 < aeiousomething> If I'm not doing anything it makes me very irritable
07:33 < aeiousomething> it simply doesn't let me relax
07:33 < aeiousomething> what I've found in my case to say the least is I need to have a ritual.. the best way to explain this is by using a lawnmower analogy
07:33 < aeiousomething> it only works for me when I try to do something that requires critical thinking within the first few minutes of ingestion
07:34 < aeiousomething> akin to.. fueling up the lawn mower but pulling the damn cord and pushing it
07:34 < aeiousomething> not just fueling*
07:34 < aeiousomething> so I try to play chess within the first few minutes of taking any stimulant.. it might sound stupid but it seems to explain to my brain how to use the new found "intellect"
07:35 < aeiousomething> I might just be convicing myself this works but it is the only way it works for me
07:35 < aeiousomething> oh and I can never take coffee + adderall .. it puts my mind in a weird state.. I feel detached from my body and my brain goes on hyperdrive... and I'm unable to concentrate on anything.. even simple taks..
07:36 < aeiousomething> only one stimulant at a time.
07:37 < docl> do you have any math rituals that you do in your head? like walking through the multiplication table or somthing
07:37 < aeiousomething> no.. I just use chess as a way to detect when the adderall has kicked hin..
07:37 < aeiousomething> I see significant difference..
07:38 < aeiousomething> without adderall .. my chess.com rating  can range between 1200-1400..
07:38 < aeiousomething> with adderall I beat 1800s and 2000s
07:38 < aeiousomething> I like to make sure I test this all the time because I don't want to be taking stimulants that are not doing anything for me
07:38 < docl> woah, that's a big difference
07:39 < aeiousomething> yeah ..  my ADD is very bad.. It was bad all through my life
07:39 < aeiousomething> I never finished my homeworks
07:39 < aeiousomething> but I still managed to pass with good grades..
07:39 < aeiousomething> I've spent ages in denial about my adhd.. I did not want to take stimulants.. I guess you could say being Indian I come from a different culture
07:39 < aeiousomething> we don't take as many drugs as easily
07:40 < aeiousomething> I only started taking adderall at 27/28... that was when I realized I was going to get fired
07:40 < aeiousomething> after that I got diagnosed..
07:40 < docl> yeah I'm from a subculture that hates drugs as well
07:40 < aeiousomething> ^ for good reason..
07:40 < aeiousomething> my grand mother died of ruptured intestines from damage from acidic pain killers over time
07:40 < aeiousomething> she died the most painful death possible
07:40 < aeiousomething> her stomach contents got emptied into her body
07:41 < aeiousomething> I also haven't even smoked pot until 27...
07:41 < aeiousomething> didn't drink coffee until I was 23..
07:41 < aeiousomething> did drink alcohol.
07:41 < aeiousomething> I guess that's considered less harmful in my culture
07:41 < docl> I was 30 before I tried pot or alcohol
07:41 < aeiousomething> even though they don't encourage it
07:42 < aeiousomething> yeah.. pot was good in most case except it also makes me significantly stupid
07:42 < aeiousomething> esp with my add..
07:42 < aeiousomething> it's like letting all the horses in my head out of their stable
07:42 < aeiousomething> I think about everything under the sun..
07:42 < aeiousomething> and I'm unable to "DO" anything..
07:42 < aeiousomething> I can think of all sorts of abstract things.. but sativa or indica ... I am not getting off the couch
07:42 < docl> yeah that's the problem with it. same with alcohol, although I've found myself doing chores on alcohol that I would procrastinate while sober
07:43 < aeiousomething> alcohol inhibits anxiety
07:43 < docl> that's probably it
07:43 < aeiousomething> but its disadvantages outweigh its benefits in my opinion
07:43 < aeiousomething> my sleep is affected.
07:43 < aeiousomething> regardless of when or hwo much I drink..
07:43 < aeiousomething> whether it's one drink or 20
07:43 < aeiousomething> I never sleep well
07:43 < aeiousomething> even pot/coffee affects my sleep
07:44 < aeiousomething> I spoke to my doctor about it..  he said people think one drink or pot helps them sleep better but it's not good sleep
07:45 < aeiousomething> one thing I found helps immensely is making my room absolutely dark.. like I can't even see my own hands dark when I sleep..
07:45 < aeiousomething> this gives me the best sleep
07:45 < docl> have you tried a melatonin supplement?
07:45 < aeiousomething> I've thought about it
07:46 < aeiousomething> but my lack of sleep is not due to some hormonal imbalance
07:46 < aeiousomething> it usually happens when I feel like I haven't accomplished much during the day
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07:46 < aeiousomething> physically and mentally
07:46 < aeiousomething> I don't want to address the symptoms without addressing the root cause
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07:48 < docl> well, fundamentally your body is physical, so the chemicals kinda are a root cause. your behavior makes your body produce different amounts of chemicals.
07:48 < aeiousomething> indeed.
07:49 < kanzure> "Rapid and scalable characterization of CRISPR technologies using an E. coli cell-free transcription-translation system" http://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/07/28/169441
07:50 < kanzure> "Taming parasites by tailoring them" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5498469/ https://twitter.com/CRISPR_papers/status/888702948808704003
07:51 < aeiousomething> kanzure: can you pease help me get that ADHD data dump maaku said you might have?
07:51 < kanzure> "Initial application of CRISPR/Cas9 has already been achieved in Toxoplasma, Plasmodium, Trypanosoma, and Leishmania species (Ghorbal et al., 2014; Lee and Fidock, 2014; Peng et al., 2014; Shen et al., 2014; Sidik et al., 2014; Wagner et al., 2014; Sollelis et al., 2015; Zhang and Matlashewski, 2015). A combination of CRISPR/Cas9 with customary tools has resulted in a significantly efficient ...
07:51 < kanzure> ...production of transgenic strains, as reviewed by Cui and Yu (2016) (Figure ​(Figure4A).4A). "
07:52 < kanzure> aeiousomething: i only have some notes; http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/nootropics/adderall.txt http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/
08:00 < aeiousomething> kanzure: what do you do for the dysphoria resulting from the comedown
08:03 < kanzure> the what?
08:04 < aeiousomething> you have no issues from when the adderall wears off?
08:04 < kanzure> i have to do different things, and not the same things, which is sort of unfortunate.
08:05 < aeiousomething> http://www.brainprotips.com/adderall-comedown/
08:05 < aeiousomething> that's a silly website but it does describe most of what happens to me when adderall wears off
08:05 < aeiousomething> happened*
08:05 < aeiousomething> this does not happen to me with modafinil
08:38 < kanzure> time for musics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHoGFB6tsXI&t=5m49s
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10:08 < aeiousomething> test
10:17 < nmz787> aeiousomething: modafinil worked OK for my ADHD
10:18 < nmz787> aeiousomething: why not get a Dr to prescribe for you?
10:23 < aeiousomething> they don't prescribe it for ADHD in India
10:23 < aeiousomething> I could try but I'm not sure
10:24 < aeiousomething> I might have to try
10:27 < nmz787> I have a feeling they are much more lax about off-label uses
10:28 < aeiousomething> nmz787: you might be right but I'd still have to go meet a psychiatrist
10:28 < aeiousomething> only medical professionals capable of prescribing that drug
10:28 < aeiousomething> let me find out
10:38 < Qfwfq> Generic provigil (SunPharma etc) is OTC in .in, compare with the blacklist in the appendix of https://web.archive.org/web/20051031023525/http://cdsco.nic.in:80/html/Copy%20of%201.%20D&CAct121.pdf (pp. 612)
10:39 < Qfwfq> (Uh, pp 610; p 612.)
10:40 < Qfwfq> 2006 update https://web.archive.org/web/20070221055138/http://drugscontrol.org/Schedule_H.pdf
10:41 < aeiousomething> Is that the R-Modafinil or the S-modafinil
10:41 < aeiousomething> one of those has higher absorption rate I think
10:43 < Qfwfq> SunPharma brand armodafanil as waklert, modafanil as modalert.
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10:44 < Qfwfq> Neither appears to be scheduled. Exports would likely be smaller otherwise.
10:46 < aeiousomething> both wakalert and modalert require prescriptions
10:46 < aeiousomething> I've looked
10:48 < aeiousomething> http://www.netmeds.com/prescriptions/waklert/150mg
10:48 < aeiousomething> http://www.netmeds.com/prescriptions/modalert/200mg
10:48 < aeiousomething> look at the red "prescription needed" sign.
10:49 < aeiousomething> scheduled might mean different things in India.. I just know I need a prescription for it.. and pharmacies can't sell me a whole bunch per month without attracting attention
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10:52 < Qfwfq> you can make this harder for yourself i guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
10:55 < TMA> it looks like there are only illegal amphetamines available in .cz; I was unable to find any in the list of approved medications
10:57 < aeiousomething> how so Qfwfq .. I doubt the exports are sold legally. You would be surprised how lax the laws are with regards to medications in India.. if you know the right people you could buy a bunch of vicodin/xanax/ anything really otc.
10:57 < aeiousomething> it's only bad for people who don't have such connections
10:58 < aeiousomething> I will try walking over to a store and asking for it
10:58 < aeiousomething> will report soon
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11:03 < nmz787> archels_: nice job! your bessel filter page made it to hackaday :)
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12:49 < kanzure> why you guys so boring
12:57 < ch_screwed> i'm a bit shy
12:58 < kanzure> alright but what about everyone else.
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12:59 < kanzure> literally hours have gone by without a proposal for destroying the planet.
12:59 < ch_screwed> would that come not as a natural byproduct of dna hacking?
13:00 < kanzure> no you usually have to intentionally try to destroy the planet.
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13:02 < ch_screwed> i heard a science report on the radio about scientist trying to use a genome scissor (cispr cusp or sth) as a kind of selective self-replicating dna shredder to kill some virus or moscito or the like. sounded a lot like a end of world device
13:02 < kanzure> why would a gene editing technology be a "world ending device"? wtf?
13:03 < ch_screwed> not editing
13:03 < kanzure> crispr is for editing.
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13:03 < kanzure> their stock symbol is literally "editas".
13:03 < ch_screwed> editing involves cutting, doesnt it?
13:04 < kanzure> here are various techniques http://diyhpl.us/wiki/gene-editing/
13:06 < ch_screwed> i found it, they want to fight the zika mosquito
13:06 < ch_screwed> http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/07/health/zika-virus-gmo-mosquito-dna/index.html
13:07 < ch_screwed> the headline of the german article is literally "the genome-bomb"
13:07 < kanzure> that's not really impressive. we have had proposals in here for replacing 40-60% of the life on the planet with synthetic alternatives (using custom dna).
13:08 < ch_screwed> killing a whole species sounded impressive enought to me
13:08 < kanzure> genocide? meh.
13:11 < ch_screwed> well, replacing something also involves getting rid of the old ones
13:11 < TMA> considering we manage to kill off several whole species a year without even specifically trying, it is probably not that impressive
13:12 < kanzure> that's the spirit :-)
13:12 < JayDugger> One genus at a time.
13:13 < ch_screwed> but what are the mechanisms for that? climate change/ biotope displacement/ chemicals spreading (un)intentionally
13:13 < kanzure> huh? just set the atmosphere on fire.
13:13 < JayDugger> Saturation neutron bombing for small jobs. Kinetic kill for big ones.
13:14 < kanzure> jaydugger has the right idea, he's a team player.
13:14 < ch_screwed> here, setting a bag full of mosquitoes free in one spot kills potentially the whole species, that would count as a "first"
13:14 < JayDugger> We'll get better at it over time. No one much cares about mosquitoes if they don't bite humans or their domesticated species.
13:15 < JayDugger> Aside from ecological management. Don't want a food web to collapse, I admit.
13:15 < TMA> ch_screwed: it's really easy: we managed several with hunting: dodo, aurochs, thylacine
13:15 < JayDugger> Did aurochs get hunted out, or did they get displaced and fail to domesticate?
13:15 < JayDugger> I don't really know, but that ought to have some historical record.
13:16 < streety> I think Editas' stock symbol is EDIT
13:16 < ch_screwed> yeah, but not one guy setting a pack of modified say dodos free killed the species. its indirect, self replicating. another kind of thing in my book
13:16 < kanzure> oops. got the stock symbol wrong.
13:18 < TMA> sheep are reportedly unable to go ferral, the precursor to modern sheep can be thought of as extinct too
13:19 < ch_screwed> i mean, replacing malaria mosquitos with ones that would spread "updated" flu immunity. getting stung once in a while would be a good thing. all those people near the equator would be so thankfull, no longer getting the flu
13:20 < ch_screwed> but good example with the sheep
13:21 < JayDugger> Looks as if aurochs hunted out in Europe, and displaced elsewhere.
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14:56 < archels_> nmz787: :D thanks for your comment
15:07 < kanzure> what was the objection to igniting the atmosphere, something about not enough nitrogen? streety had a complaint.
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16:29 < fenn> i bet there's a way to re-wild sheep similar to the project breeding aurochs from cows
16:29 < fenn> you might end up with "killer sheep" tho
16:38 < cluckj> that sounds like an adorable problem
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16:39 < fenn> personally i think this planet needs more wild roaming genetically modified monsters
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16:40 < fenn> there are escaped hogs in the southern US that get really huge and kill dogs and dig up plants and stuff
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16:41 < fenn> you have to hire a pigslayer to go hunt them if they're nearby
16:41 < kanzure> more likely to get genetically modified animolecules than hogs
16:42 < kanzure> (pond-dwelling few-cell organisms)
16:42 < fenn> i'm just tired of all this boring genetic engineering like pesticide resistance or extended shelf life
16:43 < kanzure> would you be satisfied by porting over blue ass monkey pigmentation?
16:43 < fenn> let's see some dragons and wooly baconated milk platypi
16:45 < kanzure> that's.. more difficult.
16:46 < fenn> blue ass monkey isn't very blue
16:47 < fenn> mandrills (blue nosed baboon) is getting there
16:47 < fenn> i guess they have blue asses too
16:47 < kanzure> oh hell i forgot about mandrills. yes.
16:48 < fenn> like that could totally be a GMO monster right there https://www.calgaryzoo.com/mandrill
16:50 < fenn> right so could we splice that coloring gene into a pig?
16:50 < cluckj> one of my bioartist friends wants plaid pigs
16:51 < cluckj> and agrees with your sentiment
16:53 < cluckj> someone needs to put the "horror" back in "genetically modified horror"
16:54 < kanzure> seems that the only monkey pigment research has been regarding scrotal development -_-
16:55 < kanzure> and it's just melanin of course..
16:55 < cluckj> zzz
16:57 < kanzure> "melanin and hemoglobin" seems kind of like a non-answer to me.
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16:59 < kanzure> "(D) Transmission electron micrograph of a cross section of a collagen array from the blue facial skin of a mandrill, Mandrillus sphinx. (courtesy of Dr Richard Prum)."
16:59 < kanzure> from http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1600-0749.2006.00360.x/full
17:01 < kanzure> "For many years, it was considered that the prominent blue colors of some primates such as the mandrill (Mandrillus sphinx) that possesses spectacular blue facial skin and a blue rump are the product of incoherent light scatter (Fox, 1976). This conclusion was generally accepted to be true although it was challenged, notably by Findlay (1970) who held that light scatter was unimportant in the ...
17:01 < kanzure> ...generation of blue colors of the skin. Rather, he considered blues to arise from an optical relationship between collagen and melanin leading to a ‘subtractive color mixing’ in the dermis."
17:02 < kanzure> .wik mongolian spot
17:02 < yoleaux> "Mongolian spot (congenital dermal melanocytosis) is a benign, flat, congenital birthmark with wavy borders and irregular shape. In 1883, it was described and named after Mongolians by Erwin Bälz, a German anthropologist based in Japan. It normally disappears three to five years after birth and almost always by puberty." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_spot
17:02 < kanzure> "The most common color is blue, although they can be blue-gray, blue-black or deep brown."
17:04 < kanzure> "The Mongolian spot is referred to in the Japanese idiom shiri ga aoi, meaning "to have a blue butt",[26][27]."
17:06 < kanzure> i think you could induce this with electroporation
17:06 < kanzure> (and some reagents)
17:06 < fenn> sounds like it needs more research to identify the genes responsible
17:07 < kanzure> "The difference in skin color between lightly and darkly pigmented individuals is due not to the number (quantity) of melanocytes in their skin, but to the melanocytes' level of activity (quantity and relative amounts of eumelanin and pheomelanin). This process is under hormonal control, including the MSH and ACTH peptides that are produced from the precursor proopiomelanocortin."
17:07 < kanzure> none of that seems to mention color other than "lightly and darkly pigmented individuals". what happened to all the other colors of the rainbow?
17:07 < fenn> yeah all those blue and green people, where did they go
17:10 < kanzure> what about porting chromatophores instead.
17:11 < kanzure> "Nearly all the vibrant blues in animals and plants are created by structural coloration rather than by pigments. However, some types of mandarinfish do possess vesicles of a cyan biochrome of unknown chemical structure in cells named cyanophores.[11] Although they appear unusual in their limited taxonomic range, there may be cyanophores (as well as further unusual chromatophore types) in ...
17:11 < kanzure> ...other fish and amphibians. For example, brightly coloured chromatophores with undefined pigments are found in both poison dart frogs and glass frogs,[15] and atypical dichromatic chromatophores, named erythro-iridophores have been described in Pseudochromis diadema.[16]"
17:11 < kanzure> uh.
17:12 < kanzure> xanthophores/erythrophores look easier.
17:12 < kanzure> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatophore#Xanthophores_and_erythrophores
17:16 < kanzure> if an octopus has a seizure, does its chromatophores rapidly display nonsense data?
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17:20 < kanzure> "In fact, if you search for "chromatophores insane in the membrane", you can see a tissue prep where they hooked up the audio output from a mp3 player to some of the descending neurons that control the chromatophores:"
17:20 < kanzure> oh...
17:20 < kanzure> http://blog.backyardbrains.com/2012/08/insane-in-the-chromatophores/
17:21 < kanzure> "This video contains content from SME, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds."
17:21 < kanzure> http://evolver.fm/2012/08/23/squids-can-be-music-apps-apparently/
17:22 < kanzure> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5F-7Bu8YBQ&list=PLFW6N3rqZXGcS4k6eWG02lGeDRzjGgHeV&index=1
17:26 < fenn> http://fennetic.net/irc/Insane_in_the_Chromatophores-G-OVrI9x8Zs.mp4  (15MB)
17:32 < kanzure> i guess this means the answer to my question is yes.
17:53 < fltrz> what was the question?
17:59 < kanzure> fenn wanted a blue mandrill face
18:04 < fenn> i thought the question was "if an octopus has a seizure, does its chromatophores rapidly display nonsense data?"
18:07 < kanzure> it's so hard to read though
18:14 < kanzure> "and if someone like Peter Thiel wants to live forever, he needs to fund the things in George Church’s lab"   hey at least he has jumped from eliezer to george.
18:14 < kanzure> (re the wooly mammoth book interview)
18:15 < kanzure> "doing the anti-malaria mosquitos, working with the Gates foundation, they’re building domes over villages in Africa and releasing mosquitoes that can’t carry malaria"
18:15 < kanzure> domes?
18:15 < kanzure> i guess you need to isolate the mosquito population somehow
18:15 < kanzure> ( http://gizmodo.com/why-bringing-back-a-wooly-mammoth-is-no-longer-science-1797099747 )
18:16 < kanzure> ".. isn’t the only one working to clone a mammoth. There’s also Hwang Woo-suk’s Korean dog-cloning lab, Soaam Technologies [....] He was the one who claimed to clone human cells, but it turns out he had been forcing his students to donate their eggs, and secondly that his clone cells are fraudulent, so he’s trying to resurrect his reputation by being the first to clone a mammoth."
18:16 < kanzure> makes sense.
18:18 < kanzure> about as much sense as anything else, really.
18:18 < kanzure> dead reputation -> ressurect mammoth, resurrect reputation. got it.
18:23 < kanzure> "(Editor’s Note: This is a speculative idea that Mezrich describes in more detail in the book, in which Pleistocene herbivores might help transition forests and shrub lands into grasslands, which absorb less heat.) The idea is to repopulate the area with mammoths. Church’s goal is 80,000 mammoths, and [he hopes that] you could lower the temperature of the permafrost for generations."
18:23 < kanzure> "Who should play Church in the movie? I love Tom Hanks for that character, Jeff Bridges is my other first choice. Hanks already grew that big beard in Castaway and Jeff Bridges has that great beard, so Hanks or Bridges."
18:28 < cluckj> hahaha
18:30 < kanzure> main problem i see with the domes is you get stuck with all the mosquitoes in the dome with you.
18:34 < cluckj> DEET bath?
18:34 < kanzure> no more than usual, i presume.
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18:54 < kanzure> "In case Voldemort doesn't want to reveal himself (or give a ℒ-like anonymous remote talk), I've encouraged andytoshi to submit it to Scaling Bitcoin and give the talk on his behalf."
18:54 < kanzure> maaku: hah i had missed that death note reference the first time around
18:55 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14883742
18:55 < yoleaux> Confidential Transactions from Basic Principles | Hacker News
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20:27 < kanzure> http://blog.otoro.net/2016/09/28/hyper-networks/ https://arxiv.org/abs/1609.09106
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21:07 < aeiousomething> test
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21:46  * nmz787 test failed
21:50 < kanzure> that's why you should always have a test test, too.
22:12 < kanzure> hmmmpppph replace-by-fee and nSequence=0 and some other things sent me on a wild goose chase. oh well.
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