--- Log opened Thu Nov 23 00:00:23 2017 00:14 -!- CaptHindsight [~2020@unaffiliated/capthindsight] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:15 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:28 -!- augur [~augur@192.195.83.130] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:53 -!- yashgaroth_ [~yashgarot@2606:6000:cd4d:3300:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:32 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-094-223-141-229.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:36 < rpifan> which is fine 01:36 < rpifan> thats part of livign 01:37 < rpifan> my fantasty would be 200 year old looking 20s something 01:37 < rpifan> and then croak 01:37 < rpifan> nothing more 01:44 < maaku> 200 trillion year old looking 20s something 01:44 < maaku> and then not croak 01:48 < rpifan> nah 01:48 < rpifan> death is part of life 03:02 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:03 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:10 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:11 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Client Quit] 03:12 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:45 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:29 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-094-223-141-229.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:11 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:34 -!- aeiousom1thing [~aeiousome@183.82.170.54] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:35 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:42 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:57 < JayDugger> rpifan--do you have any dental work? Fillings? Crowns? 07:14 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@190.99.101.24] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:20 < streety> Most dental work being inorganic and as such rpifan should not accept it? 07:25 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-094-223-141-229.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:03 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-094-223-141-229.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:05 < JayDugger> Most dental work being inorganic, and as such rpifan's answer might tell me how seriously he means "but thye [sic] need to be organic". 08:06 < JayDugger> Perfect consistency would seem silly to me if had the price of persistent toothache or other pain. 08:06 < JayDugger> Excuse me, "if it had", rather. 08:07 < JayDugger> For all I know rpifan made that comment in jest. 08:10 < kanzure> he's an idiot, don't pay any attention to him 08:17 < ebowden> rpifan is an idiot? 08:21 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-094-223-141-229.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:23 < kanzure> haven't you noticed? 08:24 -!- mindsForge [~nak@75-171-23-2.phnx.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:28 -!- augur [~augur@2600:380:8564:588d:30c9:8962:caa7:d034] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:28 -!- augur [~augur@2600:380:8564:588d:30c9:8962:caa7:d034] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:29 -!- augur [~augur@2600:380:8564:588d:5576:897a:df00:febe] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:31 < ebowden> I have, just clarifying that they were the ones referred to. 08:36 < streety> there seems to be some sloppy use of terms . . . organic, human, mechanical, robot 08:37 < streety> must be organic and human and against mechanical and robot leaves a lot of room between 08:43 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:47 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:48 -!- Qfwfq [Qfwfq@gateway/shell/suchznc/x-laiafgrxmwtzsnwq] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:52 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:07 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:19 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:37 -!- Qfwfq [Qfwfq@gateway/shell/suchznc/x-lxrvefzmxpmwrvrh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:37 -!- Qfwfq [Qfwfq@gateway/shell/suchznc/x-lxrvefzmxpmwrvrh] has quit [Changing host] 09:37 -!- Qfwfq [Qfwfq@unaffiliated/washirving] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:37 -!- Qfwfq [Qfwfq@unaffiliated/washirving] has quit [Changing host] 09:37 -!- Qfwfq [Qfwfq@gateway/shell/suchznc/x-lxrvefzmxpmwrvrh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:05 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-094-223-141-229.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:06 -!- augur [~augur@2600:380:8564:588d:5576:897a:df00:febe] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:28 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=1dc1736f Bryan Bishop: mentin dCas13a (mRNA binding) >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/gene-editing/ 10:35 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=d7ceae38 Bryan Bishop: more igem 2017 summaries >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/dna/projects/ 10:39 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:50 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:59 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:04 -!- mindsForge [~nak@75-171-23-2.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:05 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tunwfxwycrjzxzex] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:10 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:22 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:24 < kanzure> https://medium.com/@aitheric/hiv-n6-experimental-therapy-results-1-month-8eda36f4f37c 11:30 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:43 -!- NikopolSohru [~NSohru@symset.filection.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:44 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:53 < streety> as writeups go it leaves a lot to be desired 11:55 < streety> The post on safety I think starts badly, "A couple weeks before writing this, I injected myself with an experimental genetic therapy." https://medium.com/@aitheric/experimental-genetic-therapy-safety-considerations-9d11c20b1333 11:55 < streety> I would be good to write down your thoughts on risks and safety steps before administering the treatment 11:59 < kanzure> calling it a teatment, at this point is immature 12:00 < kanzure> but calling it nything else probably wouldn't help avoid fda 12:03 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:05 -!- mrdata_ [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:07 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:27 < nmz787> kanzure: well if the cure works, I bet the cured would get a spike of endorphins, and that might make them feel a little 'high'... so you could call it an experimental extremely-delayed-onset narcotic 12:28 < nmz787> no one is interested in people getting high these days... only when those people overdose does it seem to make the news 12:48 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:54 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@190.99.101.24] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:59 < ebowden> These results are not in the least bit convincing to me. 13:00 < streety> I don't think I associate any likelihood of success to the use of the word treatment. Injection would be more neutral though 13:02 < streety> Difficult to know with just a single baseline but no indication of success 13:15 < ebowden> God damn, the Germans and Americans can make some beautifully machined products. The Swiss take it to absurd levels. 13:15 < nmz787> 'protocol' 13:17 < streety> that would also work 13:17 < streety> and for things that don't include an injection 13:18 < streety> It would be interesting to test whether any of the N6 antibody can be detected 13:28 -!- TC [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:29 -!- TC is now known as Guest46305 13:33 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:42 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-094-223-141-229.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:42 < kanzure> it doesn't matter if it's a treatment though 13:42 < kanzure> what matters is that the fda will kill him even if it's not a treatment 13:43 < kanzure> "Multiplex recording of cellular events over time on CRISPR biological tape" http://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2017/11/20/science.aao0958 13:45 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/Multiplex%20recording%20of%20cellular%20events%20over%20time%20on%20CRISPR%20biological%20tape%20-%202017.pdf 13:49 < nmz787> .title http://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.2003916 13:49 < yoleaux> Nucleic acid purification from plants, animals and microbes in under 30 seconds 13:50 < nmz787> oo that's a good one kanzure 13:51 < kanzure> just speaking the truth 13:52 < nmz787> I mean the CRISPR thing 14:04 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:11 < rpifan> but crispr make my chicken skin crispy or not 14:23 -!- aeiousom1thing [~aeiousome@183.82.170.54] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:34 < nmz787> probably you can figure out a way 14:51 -!- darsie [~username@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:32 -!- mindsForge [~nak@75-171-23-2.phnx.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:45 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has quit [Remote host 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