--- Log opened Mon Dec 04 00:00:33 2017 00:06 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@183.82.170.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:07 -!- gwillen [~gwillen@unaffiliated/gwillen] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:07 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:16 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:11a6:8600:d97c:dedc:77b5:ce51] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:16 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:11a6:8600:d97c:dedc:77b5:ce51] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:20 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:52 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:09 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-094-223-133-187.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:16 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@223.237.44.85] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:25 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207.244.191.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:25 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-094-223-133-187.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:46 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@223.237.44.85] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:48 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@223.237.44.85] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:48 -!- jtimon [~quassel@164.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:03 < nmz787> https://github.com/nmz787/culture_shock/blob/g30_mcu_code_docs/LAB_MANUAL.md 03:03 < nmz787> .title 03:03 < yoleaux> culture_shock/LAB_MANUAL.md at g30_mcu_code_docs · nmz787/culture_shock · GitHub 03:03 < nmz787> 4 days of lab work protocol -- I need to add more pics 03:08 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:09 -!- NikopolSohru [~NSohru@s5596eed8.adsl.online.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:11 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@223.237.44.85] has quit [Quit: not really, rip] 03:22 -!- darsie [~username@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:53 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:54 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:03 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:12 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:14 -!- abetusk [~abe@68.175.143.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:22 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:23 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:26 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@183.82.170.54] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:27 -!- abetusk [~abe@68.175.143.22] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:28 -!- abetusk is now known as Guest87755 05:37 -!- Guest87755 [~abe@68.175.143.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:47 -!- jtimon [~quassel@164.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:01 -!- DataPacRat [~dan@vdsl-113.itcanada.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:12 < kanzure> nmz787: is that your writeup? 06:16 -!- abetusk_ [~abe@68.175.143.22] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:43 < kanzure> "Proof of concept continuous event logging in living cells" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/11/25/225151 http://twitter.com/biorxivpreprint/statuses/934603269317505024 06:44 < kanzure> as opposed to dead cells 06:44 < kanzure> important detail 06:45 < kanzure> "RetSynth: Solving all optimal retrosynthesis solutions using dynamically constrained integer linear programming" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/11/21/223271 06:45 < kanzure> https://www.github.com/sandialabs/RetSynth/ 06:45 < kanzure> "In vivo RNA targeting of point mutations via suppressor tRNAs and adenosine deaminases" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/10/28/210278 07:23 -!- abetusk_ [~abe@68.175.143.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:25 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@183.82.170.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:28 -!- jtimon [~quassel@164.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:28 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:35 -!- abetusk_ [~abe@68.175.143.22] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:46 -!- DataPacRat [~dan@vdsl-113.itcanada.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:51 -!- abetusk_ [~abe@68.175.143.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:54 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:59 -!- aeiousom1thing [~aeiousome@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:00 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:04 -!- abetusk_ [~abe@68.175.143.22] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:12 -!- mindsForge [~nak@75-171-23-2.phnx.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:16 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@190.99.101.24] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:22 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-094-223-133-187.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:30 < kanzure> eudoxia: sup 08:30 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15843957 08:30 < yoleaux> CBOE Will Start Bitcoin Futures Trading on December 10 | Hacker News 08:33 -!- NikopolSohru [~NSohru@s5596eed8.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:43 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:15 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@190.99.101.24] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:28 < kanzure> "Jim Thomas, a co-director of the ETC group which obtained the emails, said the US military influence they revealed would strengthen the case for a ban. " 09:29 < kanzure> etc group needs to die in a fire 09:29 < kanzure> .title https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2017-December/015346.html 09:29 < yoleaux> [bitcoin-dev] Updates on Confidential Transactions efficiency 09:37 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@190.99.101.24] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:50 -!- NikopolSohru [~NSohru@109.236.81.72] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:06 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:23 < nmz787> kanzure: yep 10:31 < nmz787> man, I'd love to dig into that RetSynth paper now instead of digging into pre-silicon fuse modelling 10:47 -!- gwillen [~gwillen@unaffiliated/gwillen] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:00 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:13 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:16 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:24 -!- Nikopol_ [~NSohru@s5596eed8.adsl.online.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:28 -!- NikopolSohru [~NSohru@109.236.81.72] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:29 -!- Nikopol_ [~NSohru@s5596eed8.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:41 * kanzure mumbles about scheduling the master race 11:44 < nmz787> .wik mumbly peg 11:44 < yoleaux> "Mumblety-peg (also known as mumbley-peg, mumblepeg, mumble-the-peg, mumbledepeg or mumble-de-peg) is an old outdoor game played using pocketknives. The term "Mumblety-peg" came from the practice of putting a peg of about 2 or 3 inches into the ground. The loser of the game had to take it out with his teeth." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumbly-peg 12:11 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:35 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:45 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:57 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:57 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@190.99.101.24] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:02 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:16 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:21 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:30 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:34 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:08 -!- abetusk_ is now known as abetusk 14:45 -!- juul [~juul@juul.io] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:02 < kanzure> we are should do immersive cooling bitcoin mining? 15:20 -!- aeiousom1thing [~aeiousome@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:26 < maaku> kanzure: we are should? 15:30 < kanzure> maaku: i'm trying to become the copy editor for "the shadow brokers" 16:09 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-094-223-133-187.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:16 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:17 < JayDugger> Just the thing for the volcano island secret base. Deep seawater for the cold side of the thermocouple. Lava for the hot side of the thermocouple. 16:17 < JayDugger> Thermocouple design left as an exercise for the reader. 16:23 < nmz787> kanzure: did you hear about GP-Write China? 16:26 -!- DataPacRat [~dan@vdsl-113.itcanada.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:35 < kanzure> nmz787: no? 16:36 -!- heath [~heath@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:36 -!- ensign [~ensign@2001:41d0:8:d711::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:39 -!- ensign [~ensign@2001:41d0:8:d711::1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:42 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/financial/Commercializing%20biomedical%20research%20through%20securitization%20techniques.pdf 16:43 < kanzure> "FDA hedges" http://rthakor.mit.edu/sites/default/files/documents/FDAHedge_2017_March_Final.pdf 16:46 < kanzure> "Funding long shots" http://www-2.rotman.utoronto.ca/~hull/downloadablepublications/Long_Shots.pdf 16:47 < kanzure> hm. 'low correlation with other investments' 16:51 -!- heath [~heath@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:52 < kanzure> "Buying cures versus renting health: Financing health care with consumer loans" https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/708b/757b04eb6253819debc0cd6674fd61632aa0.pdf 16:55 -!- mrdata- [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:58 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:16 -!- darsie [~username@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:31 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:31 < nmz787> kanzure: let me retween the thing to you.. 17:31 < nmz787> retweet* 17:46 < nmz787> ok, I think I did it 17:48 < kanzure> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_Japan 17:55 < kanzure> nmz787: i've sent a few emails asking around 17:55 < kanzure> in the interest of "release early, release often", here's a draft of our polymerase paper: 17:55 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/Electronic%20manipulation%20of%20polymerase%20for%20DNA%20synthesis.2017-12-04.pdf 17:59 -!- juul [~juul@juul.io] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:06 < kanzure> juul: i have uploaded a draft to the public interwebs http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/Electronic%20manipulation%20of%20polymerase%20for%20DNA%20synthesis.2017-12-04.pdf 18:09 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:17 < juul> cool! 18:17 < juul> btw, the 10k genes project is operational: https://www.reddit.com/r/bionet/ 18:19 < kanzure> addgene made a request? hm. 18:19 < kanzure> "Quick first thought. You seemed to not mention the natural method already in place for synthesizing by using an nucleic acid that has a protected end unable to be bound to the next nucleotide until the end is cleaved off. With a magical polymerase or second enzyme that cleaves on queue then the synthesis could be controlled. So - blue (add g) - yellow (deprotect) - red (add c) - yellow ... 18:20 < kanzure> ...(deprotect) - etc thus giving a state machine of sorts." 18:25 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/caiyizhi/status/937227056361955328 18:25 < yoleaux> I am thrilled to launch the GP-Write China centre yesterday, which I will be co-directing with Prof. Junbiao Dai. Writing genomes will become mainstream in China. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQGzAmDWkAAOvY4.jpg (@caiyizhi) 18:27 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:31 < kanzure> dear leader http://www-personal.umich.edu/~rorder/brain.gif 18:35 -!- mrdata- [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:46 < kanzure> grown circuits of artificial neurons or something http://www.qstatebio.com/ 19:13 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:cd4d:3300:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:02 -!- jtimon [~quassel@164.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:11 -!- Hooloovo0 [Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:12 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:12 < kanzure> .wik germinal choice technology 20:12 < yoleaux> "Germinal choice technology refers to a set of reprogenetic technologies that, currently or that are expected to in the future, allow parents to influence the genetic constitutions of their children." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germinal_choice_technology 20:14 < kanzure> "Graham's original intention was to monitor the outcomes of children produced through the bank's sperm, and he asked families using the bank's sperm to agree to periodic surveys; however, most recipients showed no interest in sharing information on their children once the procedure was over, and when he sent out a survey to recipient families in the early 1990s, few families responded. A ... 20:14 < kanzure> ...later segment of the same Slate article reported on the highlights of the lives of fifteen of the resultant children. Of the fifteen, six reportedly had 4.0 GPAs and two were reported to be "artistically precocious". Still others were reported to be "geniuses" and "whizzes" at various disciplines. All the children contacted by Slate were in good health, except one, who had what his mother ... 20:14 < kanzure> ...described as a "developmental disability".[4]" 20:14 < kanzure> "Geert Hamer at the Academic Medical Center, University of Amsterdam forecast in 2016 that correcting the genetic mutations that cause male infertility could be achieved in five to ten years. This had already been done in mice and, if successful in humans, could be the first case of germline engineering.[7]" 20:21 -!- jb55 [~jb55@70-36-49-138.dyn.novuscom.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:01 <@fenn> "genetic mutations that cause male infertility" would already be strongly selected against, so why do they exist? 21:38 -!- Aurelius [~cpopell@50.35.79.117] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:48 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:00 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:03 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:07 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:11a6:8600:d97c:dedc:77b5:ce51] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:07 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:11a6:8600:bdb9:e646:20ee:142c] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:13 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:11a6:8600:bdb9:e646:20ee:142c] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:23 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:cd4d:3300:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:29 -!- mindsForge [~nak@75-171-23-2.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:42 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:e030:c518:6b54:982d] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:15 -!- jb55 [~jb55@70-36-49-138.dyn.novuscom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:32 < mrdata> fenn, just a thought: what's bad for an individual might sometimes be good for a species? 23:35 < mrdata> eg: reduced fertility in response to over crowding, for example 23:35 < mrdata> or pollution, or poor health, or ... 23:40 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Tue Dec 05 00:00:34 2017