--- Log opened Mon Dec 11 00:00:40 2017 00:04 -!- rpifan_ [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:05 -!- rpifan_ [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:05 -!- rpifan_ [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:06 -!- rpifan_ [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:06 < nmz787> http://nanowires.berkeley.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/102.pdf 00:07 < nmz787> "Electrostatic Control of Ions and Molecules in Nanofluidic Transistors" 00:07 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:08 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:18 -!- DataPacRat [~dan@adsl-91.itcanada.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:23 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:26 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:03 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@188.227.115.178] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:27 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:39 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hwyxphyyehkbcyhq] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:03 -!- darsie [~username@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:18 < pasky_> maaku: right! awesome - I got the impression that it's still in the prototype phase (despite interoperable implementations) from some articles, glad to hear that's wrong 03:41 < kanzure> hm. 03:41 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:56 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:12 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:18 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:48 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hwyxphyyehkbcyhq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 05:00 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:25 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:29 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:45 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:45 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:19 -!- sachy [~sachy@78.108.102.220] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:31 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:36 < kanzure> hm. 08:05 -!- DataPacRat [~dan@adsl-91.itcanada.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:25 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@190.99.101.24] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:40 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:42 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:42 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:46 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:54 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:01 < kanzure> somethin something possible contamination of the-odin.com's crispr kits: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/diybio/PXeoidiWPYA/V1JYEUCLBQAJ 09:31 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-094-223-133-187.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:32 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:33 -!- AgenttiX [agenttix@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:36 < maaku> pasky_: I think certain people are unnecessarily conservative in how they describe the current state of lightning, to avoid further vapourware accusations. 09:37 < kanzure> the vaporware claims are funny. just give them a link to the source code. 09:38 < maaku> .title https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning 09:38 < yoleaux> GitHub - ElementsProject/lightning: c-lightning — a Lightning Network implementation in C 09:39 < maaku> .title https://cdecker.github.io/lightning-integration/ 09:39 < yoleaux> Lightning Integration Tests 09:39 -!- AgenttiX [agenttix@lakka.kapsi.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:40 < maaku> ^^ As of Nov 17th, all 3 implementations were 100% compatible across all 75 integration tests, meaning for each test every combination of clightning, lnd, and eclair was able to route payments 09:41 < maaku> there was a protocol change after that, but I think that's also been sorted through I believe 09:43 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:44 -!- AgenttiX [agenttix@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:54 -!- AgenttiX [agenttix@lakka.kapsi.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:59 < pasky_> *nod* thanks! 10:19 -!- BobaMa [bobama@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:20 -!- BobaMa [bobama@kapsi.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:21 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-evkyiukfjbcsbtmy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:32 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:50 < nmz787> kanzure: that contaminated CRISPR thing seems a bit dumb... they re-used samples that were already stored improperly, for months and months now... why didn't they simply re-order from the-odin? If they couldn't due to EU laws, they should have contracted/collaborated with someone outside the EU 10:50 * nmz787 will reply to the group too 10:53 -!- DataPacRat [~dan@adsl-91.itcanada.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:58 -!- jtimon [~quassel@164.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:06 < heath> .cc .bz .ac all down, what now? 11:07 < kanzure> tor 11:07 < kanzure> scihub22266oqcxt.onion 11:08 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/Sci_Hub/status/933081884380278784 11:08 < yoleaux> Sci-Hub is working. To get around domain names problem, use custom Sci-Hub DNS servers 80.82.77.83 and 80.82.77.84. How to customize DNS in Windows: http://pchelp.ricmedia.com/set-custom-dns-servers-windows https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPL3SXKW0AgV95w.jpg (@Sci_Hub) 11:09 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/Sci_Hub/status/933085186614611968 11:09 < yoleaux> @jerquee using ip address only the website will not be fully functional (@Sci_Hub, in reply to tw:933084651261804544) 11:10 < kanzure> http://sci-hub.tw/ http://sci-hub.la/ http://sci-hub.hk/ 11:13 < kanzure> see also https://vk.com/wall-36928352_17843 11:13 < heath> thanks 11:27 < kanzure> https://www.inc.com/chuck-blakeman/an-email-from-elon-musk-reveals-why-managers-are-always-a-bad-idea.html 11:37 < nmz787> heath: also the IP address someone listed in here a few days ago worked yesterday 11:37 < kanzure> their proxy stuff doesn't work with their naked IP address 11:37 < kanzure> because they use subdomains for anything that isn't in their cache 11:38 < nmz787> ah, hmm, so I got lucky I guess 11:39 < nmz787> TOR was also appearing yesterday... but the TOR nor IP would give me the paper I wanted... later I found it seemed like open-access... so maybe they specifically avoid caching open papers (but they didn't make it apparent, I just kept clicking refresh to hope to get around the timeout I was experiencing) 11:53 < archels_> http://opentrons.com is advertising on the website of this AI podcast, heh 11:54 < kanzure> opentrons is hiring at the moment. i told my sister to go apply. 11:55 < kanzure> http://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/2012/04/02/do-we-want-another-manhattan-project/ 12:09 < JayDugger> What's the occasion for the Alex Wellerstein link? 12:09 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:a188:ddf4:c4b3:6881] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:11 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:b47c:8381:50fd:d10a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:15 < kanzure> JayDugger: making plans for creating the new master race. 12:15 < nmz787> JayDugger: probably because lots of people say "we should do this like the manhattan project". I know for example the DNA synthesis project kanzure and I call into ~once a month recently mentioned that sort of quip 12:15 < kanzure> andytoshi mentioned the link to me for exactly the reason of hearin the phrase "we should do a manhattan project" 12:15 < kanzure> *hearing 12:17 < andytoshi> JayDugger: i discovered alex wellerstein a couple weeks ago and have been spending several hours a day reading through the archives 12:17 < andytoshi> of his blog 12:31 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@190.99.101.24] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:53 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-094-223-133-187.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:00 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-evkyiukfjbcsbtmy] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 13:05 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-094-223-133-187.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:27 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:28 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:28 -!- leakymutant [883ed7b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.136.62.215.182] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:30 < kanzure> china's current five-year plan http://en.ndrc.gov.cn/newsrelease/201612/P020161207645765233498.pdf 13:30 < kanzure> leakymutant: hi. 13:49 -!- leakymutant [883ed7b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.136.62.215.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:51 -!- razzy_ [~razzy@193.84.207.21] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:56 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: sachy, razzy, superkuh 13:58 -!- yoleaux [~yoleaux@xn--ht-1ia18f.nonceword.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 269 seconds] 13:59 -!- mindsForge [~nak@75-171-23-2.phnx.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:59 -!- BobaMa [bobama@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:00 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:06 -!- BobaMa [bobama@kapsi.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:10 -!- jaboja64 [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:15 -!- jaboja64 [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:17 -!- jaboja64 [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:20 -!- jaboja64 is now known as jaboja 14:28 -!- TC [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:29 -!- TC is now known as Guest2698 14:32 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:35 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@27.59.184.130] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:42 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@27.59.184.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:21 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:21 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:24 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 15:24 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:38 -!- yoleaux [~yoleaux@xn--ht-1ia18f.nonceword.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:46 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:47 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:56 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:57 -!- indiebio [~quassel@2a05:d018:c1e:8d00:c473:4128:ae2d:2c36] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:57 -!- indiebio [~quassel@2a05:d018:c1e:8d00:c473:4128:ae2d:2c36] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:57 -!- hylleddin [~hylleddin@2604:a880:1:20::1056:3001] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:57 -!- mgxm [~mgxm@unaffiliated/mgxm] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:57 -!- hylleddin [~hylleddin@2604:a880:1:20::1056:3001] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:01 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:02 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:03 -!- mgxm [~mgxm@unaffiliated/mgxm] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:05 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 16:06 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@207-244-191-189-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:06 < JayDugger> How very disappointing. All the 5-year plan needs is sexbots. And those appear to have been left untranslated. 16:07 < JayDugger> It might have been on Wellerstein's blog, but I don't remember, that I read the quip "If the Manhattan Project had failed, we'd still be having Congressional hearings about it." 16:08 < JayDugger> I wondered if the occasion was Benford's new alternate history novel, "The Berlin Project." It mentions Wellerstein's blog in the afterword. 16:10 < JayDugger> Chapter 55 or Chapter 80? Which will have more doublespeak… 16:11 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:27 < abetusk> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/antonyevans/glowing-plants-natural-lighting-with-no-electricit/posts/2069047 16:27 < abetusk> http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?ba63184b49352a97#3eYxXZ1EywK0/P8QlxBFxuAOCa/7eBDU0teLZvHPWqI= 16:30 < gradstudentbot> Oh there might be something on scihub about this. 16:33 < kanzure> i think that was a while ago 16:33 < kanzure> writing has been on the wall forever tho- they had earlier updates or something about their lack of progress 16:34 < kanzure> i don't even think the genome compiler guy works there anymore, he joined gen9 or twist or something 16:36 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@static-74-109-39-133.phlapa.ftas.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:37 < kanzure> cluckj: where you been? 16:37 < cluckj> working 16:37 < yoleaux> 2 Nov 2017 08:24Z cluckj: these guys are probably going to fund all sorts of silly ethics 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