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04:51 <@kanzure> .title http://opensourceforneuroscience.org/
04:51 < yoleaux> Open Source for Neuroscience
04:51 <@kanzure> "A commitment to open source in neuroscience" http://www.cell.com/neuron/fulltext/S0896-6273(17)30981-9
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06:10 < JayDugger> kanzure, "wait why do we have "robot overlords" but not "can't wait for my super fun robot slave" term?" yes, kind of...Jack Williamson's "The Humanoids," though there the super fun robot slaves decided nannying humans made the most sense, up to and including faking loyal humanoids helping humans resist the evil nanny-overlords humanoids.
06:10 < JayDugger> Astro Boy probably comes closer to what you imagine, and the Tachikomas closer still.
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07:03 < spurserh2> http://www.rachellaudan.com/2016/01/was-the-agricultural-revolution-a-terrible-mistake.html
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07:48 <@kanzure> "Exact reconstruction from insertions in synchronization codes" https://arxiv.org/pdf/1604.03000
07:48 <@kanzure> "Examining the unique decodability of insertion-correcting codes beyond the guarantee" https://arxiv.org/pdf/1611.09073
07:49 <@kanzure> "On unique decoding from insertion errors" https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/ae55/c16c7df9b80fee8c5f998e1b366dba345b4f.pdf
07:50 <@kanzure> "Coding for racetrack memories" https://arxiv.org/pdf/1701.06874
07:54 <@kanzure> "Fundamental limits of DNA data storage systems" https://arxiv.org/pdf/1705.04732.pdf
07:56 <@kanzure> "How to optimize human biology" https://www.wilsoncenter.org/sites/default/files/how_to_optimize_human_biology_0.pdf
08:08 < spurserh> @kanzure any luck with your PCR write experiment yet?
08:10 <@kanzure> yes
08:11 <@kanzure> just doing some reading http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/DNA/data-storage/
08:20 < spurserh> I mean the test results
08:22 <@kanzure> yeah the answer is yes
08:30 < bbrittain> anyone here ever been to noisebridge in SF?
08:31 < spurserh> @bbrittain me
08:31 < bbrittain> spurserh: do I like, just show up? and start doing things? That's what their wiki makes it look like
08:31  * bbrittain just moved to SF
08:32 < bbrittain> 'cause that's not what NYC resistor is like _at all_
08:32 < spurserh> yeah, just show up. you may need to wait a few minutes at the door while ringing the door bell
08:32 < spurserh> there's no system for who opens the door, someone just has to take pity on you
08:32 < spurserh> there are people there pretty much all the time, I guess only early morning would be totally dead
08:33 < spurserh> I went my first time for the weekly meeting.. I think it was Tuesday night? that's a good way to introduce yourself
08:33 < spurserh> everyone says their name and what they work on
08:33 < spurserh> today is Tuesday so that's lucky
08:36 < bbrittain> :/ looking at apts this evening
08:36 < bbrittain> maybe next Tues I'll go to it
08:37 <@kanzure> there's also #noisebridge
08:40 < bbrittain> I'm in it :)
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08:52 <@kanzure> "Codes in the space of multisets - Coding for permutation channels with impairments" https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1bb8/b3b27b9b682276eac0f4d7327ac93df45101.pdf
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11:16 <@kanzure> https://twitter.com/ForkGenTech/status/943074210762473472
11:16 <@kanzure> https://github.com/nopara73/HiddenWallet/blob/ed08259b2b50b0a5e3260d2b718568bd2f9c0c36/HiddenWallet.FullSpvWallet/ChaumianCoinJoin/CoinJoinService.cs
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11:59 <@fenn> noisebridge is losing its lease next summer https://noisebridge.net/wiki/FundraisingCall
12:01 < spurserh> to be honest, I avoid Noisebridge. I tried it, and it was too crazy for me
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12:06 < spurserh> lots of politics and not that many people actually buildings things
12:06 <@fenn> i tend to agree
12:06 <@fenn> however, a SF without noisebridge and without techshop is sad
12:06 < spurserh> yeah :-/
12:07 < spurserh> TechShop was a bigger loss to me
12:07 < spurserh> I mean, it didn't have the community that a real hackerspace has
12:07 < spurserh> but knowing one could access all those tools was pretty nice
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13:55 < spurserh> Hacker Dojo is alright, down here in Silicon Valley
13:55 < spurserh> met a few interesting folks hanging out there
13:55 < spurserh> tho it does seem to be mostly startup-y people, super serious on laptops with headphones on
13:58 < spurserh> I was spoiled by XinCheJian in Shanghai, which has a really strong community of "professional makers", who are there all day making stuff
13:59 < spurserh> and also hang out outside of the space regularly, go for meals or drinks etc
13:59 < spurserh> there's financial backing for a new XinCheJian in the Bay Area, if we can find the right initial group of makers
13:59 < spurserh> from one of the original backers of XinCheJian
14:00 < spurserh> btw - has anyone checked out http://biocurious.org/ ?
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14:05 <@kanzure> spurserh: yep we know about biocurious.. i think a few of us are members, and i might have been there for the opening night (not sure- i certainly remember a bunch of fanfare?)
14:06 <@kanzure> one of its creators went on to make http://biotechnbeyond.com/
14:08 < spurserh> so, how is it?
14:08 < spurserh> active community?
14:08 <@kanzure> they send emails around but i don't check in on them
14:08 <@kanzure> i don't like the community hackerspace model
14:09 <@kanzure> i'd rather buy a place and be more selective about who gets to play and on what projects
14:09 <@kanzure> and no membership fee model antics
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14:28 < spurserh> there's some drama involved. it worked pretty well at XCJ, but maybe that was partly because politics are not allowed in China
14:29 < spurserh> the whole anarchist thing seemed cancerous at Noisebridge
14:31 < spurserh> with the amount of equipment needed to stay in working order for biotech, it seems very challenging
14:31 < spurserh> to use that model
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17:18 < bbrittain> spurserh: if you want someone who now lives in SF to help with XinCheJian...
17:18 < bbrittain> I even speak a smattering of Mandarin...
17:19 < bbrittain> NYC Restistor is super selective. They are really like a core group of people who only let "the chosen" in, and then a class space
17:19 < bbrittain> which is more inline with kanzure's idea
17:19 < bbrittain> although they claim to be a hackerspace
17:20 < nmz787> isn't resistor in brooklyn?
17:20 < bbrittain> ya
17:20 < nmz787> hackmanhattan is in (manhattan)
17:20 < nmz787> I think I went to resistor once and it seemed small and too far from where I lived in the Bronx
17:20 < nmz787> went to HM a few times, still on their mailing list too
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17:20 < bbrittain> It's small because they want it to be
17:25 < bbrittain> I doubt a new hackerspace can work in SF actually
17:25 < bbrittain> unless it has a _really_ big seed fund
18:04 < nmz787> .wik reservoir computing
18:04 < yoleaux> "Reservoir computing is a framework for computation that may be viewed as an extension of neural networks. Typically an input signal is fed into a fixed (random) dynamical system called a reservoir and the dynamics of the reservoir map the input to a higher dimension." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reservoir_computing
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18:58 <@kanzure> blot
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19:13 < JayDugger> splat
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21:16 <@kanzure> yeah.
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