--- Log opened Mon Feb 05 00:00:43 2018 00:27 -!- juul [~juul@juul.io] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 00:31 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:37 -!- augur [~augur@2600:380:467d:b503:68e8:bac7:b0d4:127e] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:56 -!- nsh- is now known as nsh 01:16 < jrayhawk> there've been a couple promising trials for an extract of sarracenia purpurea against herpes 01:18 -!- aeiousom1thing [~aeiousome@183.82.170.54] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:18 < jrayhawk> i have seen theorizing that it could be effective against any number of scary cyclin-dependent-kinase viruses 01:18 -!- aeiousomething [aeiousomet@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:19 < jrayhawk> though i have to wonder about 'curing', given how much STDs like to hide from the immune system 01:19 < jrayhawk> there've been a pile of impressive arbor vitae/HPV trials 01:20 < jrayhawk> i wonder if it's a similar mechanism 01:21 < kanzure> "Herpes simplex type 2 virus deleted in glycoprotein D protects against vaginal, skin and neural disease" https://elifesciences.org/articles/06054 01:43 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:57 -!- augur [~augur@2600:380:467d:b503:68e8:bac7:b0d4:127e] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:05 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:18 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:38 < maaku> kanzure: did you ever look into that 'cancer vaccine' story from Jan 31st? I think that is worth looking into 02:43 -!- darsie [~username@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:47 -!- juul [~juul@juul.io] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:06 -!- aeiousom1thing is now known as aeiousomething 03:19 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-094-223-133-187.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:23 -!- DataPacRat [~dan@adsl-101.itcanada.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:37 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:39 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:40 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:54 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:10 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:30 < JayDugger> Fresh keyboard? Did you get a fancy replacement, or just a new machine? 04:30 < JayDugger> s/rewright/rewrite/ 04:32 -!- Burnin8 [~Burn@pool-96-241-130-178.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:33 -!- Burnin8 [~Burn@pool-96-241-130-178.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:33 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:45 < JayDugger> Oh, now PMs work from my end. 04:49 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:51 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:55 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:10 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:14 < kanzure> " 05:14 < kanzure> We only offer myGenome directly to individuals with physician approval, and those taking part in our research offering need to have proof of completing an Internal Review Board through an institution. If your friend wants to order the test and release the VCF to you, that is only way to get the data at this time. I would advise against that however, since our VCF’s have a proprietary format ... 05:14 < kanzure> ...that is non-standard and difficult to work with. Sorry that we can’t help you" 06:05 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@183.82.170.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:10 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@183.82.170.54] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:17 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:09 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@183.82.170.54] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:10 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@183.82.170.54] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:37 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@183.82.170.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:00 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@110.141.53.82] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:01 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:103f:8600:b52d:2a7f:5231:3251] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:05 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@2001:8003:103f:8600:4838:a4ab:d56:aaeb] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:09 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:103f:8600:b52d:2a7f:5231:3251] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:09 -!- drewbot [~cinch@54.144.74.28] has quit [Remote host closed the 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14:28 -!- razzy [~user@unaffiliated/razzy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:29 -!- augur_ [~augur@2600:380:8629:cfd3:2d6e:3d35:bb4f:a10] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:31 -!- dustinm [~dustinm@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:33 -!- dustinm [~dustinm@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:33 -!- augur [~augur@2600:380:8629:cfd3:f8c6:e436:fc14:8353] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:33 < jrayhawk> https://www.theguardian.com/law/2018/feb/05/hacking-suspect-lauri-love-wins-appeal-against-extradition-to-us 14:34 -!- mf1008 [~mf1008@unaffiliated/mf1008] has quit [Quit: Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui] 14:35 -!- mf1008 [~mf1008@unaffiliated/mf1008] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:36 -!- augur [~augur@2600:380:8629:cfd3:2472:eadc:4d02:384a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:40 -!- augur_ [~augur@2600:380:8629:cfd3:2d6e:3d35:bb4f:a10] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:54 < redlegion> Nice 15:57 < maaku> well done nsh 16:00 -!- mf1008 [~mf1008@unaffiliated/mf1008] has 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