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11:29 < nmz787_> kanzure: I thought microwave was actually more-deadly to pathogens and living stuff, than traditional autoclaving... at least in some respects... due to ability for super-heating (this is pretty common concern when melting agarose, because the molten liquid can become superheated, and then when you knock the vessel with your hand as you grab it, you destabilize the super-hot molecules and they
11:29 < nmz787_> phase-change quickly, boiling hot liquid all over your hand)
11:29 < kanzure> yeah but uneven heating, cold spots
11:29 < nmz787_> juul: question was basically would you have more complete gas exchange in a bubble versus a box
11:30 < nmz787_> kanzure: yeah, that's why microwaves have the carousel
11:30 < nmz787_> I wonder if microwaves have been tested for air sterilization
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11:30 < nmz787_> maybe it doesn't absorb enough to get hot in any appreaciably fast time
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11:33 < nmz787_> I seem to recall some newsmedia article about some nurse who killed someone by microwaving a blood transfusion, rather than using a warm water bath or something
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13:14 < juul> nicer microwaves have rotating reflectors
13:15 < juul> stupid carousels. they always break
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16:36 < streety> nmz787_: I think it got taken down but Cody'sLab had a video microwaving fruit flies and they were fine. I think the idea was because they are smaller than the wavelength of microwaves they don't absorb the energy
16:37 < streety> he also had a cricket or something larger that was not fine
16:37 < streety> resulting in a strike and presumably the removal
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16:51 < nmz787_> hmm, that sounds pretty suspect
16:51 < nmz787_> i mean, just since water is also smaller than said wavelength, but it's a great absorber
16:51 < nmz787_> is that because of some conductive or polar property?
16:57 < streety> here is one example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8nnPYBc4hc
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17:48 < CaptHindsight> what's the latest in retraining nerves to control prosthetics?
17:48 < CaptHindsight> say for finger and hand control
17:48 < CaptHindsight> without any surgery
17:48 < kanzure> i'm not aware of advancements, i assume not good?
17:52 < CaptHindsight> I recall the tongue being used for imaging
17:54 < CaptHindsight> would it be useful beyond just sensing?
17:54 < CaptHindsight> has the tongue been used for output vs just input?
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18:00 < CaptHindsight> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26780786  Control of a Robotic Hand Using a Tongue Control System-A Prosthesis Application.
18:03 < CaptHindsight> ^^  http://cyber.sci-hub.tv/MTAuMTEwOS90Ym1lLjIwMTYuMjUxNzc0Mg==/johansen2016.pdf
18:05 < nmz787_> dear channel: how to train ants to clean my keyboard?
18:06 < CaptHindsight> trade food crumbs for ant dropings?
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19:43 < emeraldgreen> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2943346/ they just engineered another mu-opioid receptor in their mice and it worked, cool
19:44 < emeraldgreen> I mean, with another ligand reaction profile
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