--- Log opened Wed Mar 21 00:00:25 2018 00:34 -!- jtimon [~quassel@142.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:49 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-96-241-130-178.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:50 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-96-241-130-178.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:56 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-96-241-130-178.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:56 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-96-241-130-178.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:19 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@134.131.169.216.client.dyn.strong-sf94.as22781.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:24 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@134.131.169.216.client.dyn.strong-sf94.as22781.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:28 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@bai9536df7d.bai.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:30 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@bai9536df7d.bai.ne.jp] has quit [Client Quit] 01:42 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@bai9536df7d.bai.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:10 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.211] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:11 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.211] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:15 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.211] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:23 -!- red-001 [red@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tumojiunobolajvz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:40 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.136.106.50] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:45 -!- red-001 [red@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cyqoqliqctqpdpzu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:12 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.136.106.50] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:13 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.136.106.50] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:17 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.136.106.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:22 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.211] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:36 -!- jtimon [~quassel@142.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:41 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.211] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:42 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.211] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:59 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:20 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@124.123.14.99] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:23 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@23.108.79.108] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:26 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.211] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:26 -!- ebowden__ [~ebowden@128.250.0.211] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:29 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@23.108.79.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:55 -!- darsie [~username@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:13 -!- ebowden__ [~ebowden@128.250.0.211] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:22 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@124.123.14.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:29 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:29 -!- jtimon [~quassel@142.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:48 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.211] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:50 -!- aeiousomething [aeiousomet@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:08 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.211] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:10 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.211] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:14 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.211] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:24 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.211] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:38 < kanzure> blort 06:41 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16631913 06:41 < yoleaux> Sci-Bay: Google Scholar plus Sci-Hub | Hacker News 06:41 < kanzure> https://sci-bay.org/ 07:11 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.211] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:23 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:24 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.211] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:25 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:40 < kanzure> .title https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=535f286281aea4bb08f599efb997f548&tab=core&_cview=1 07:40 < kanzure> ".. The program will build a field-deployable platform capable of using the epigenome to diagnose biothreat exposures and infections and support military forensics operations to counter-WMD proliferation." 07:41 < yoleaux> kanzure: Sorry, that command (.title) took too long to process. 07:44 -!- WeirdTolkienishF [~Weird@unaffiliated/weirdtolkienishf] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:52 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@bai9536df7d.bai.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: wrldpc1] 07:56 -!- WeirdTolkienishF [~Weird@unaffiliated/weirdtolkienishf] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:16 -!- slogger3141 [~slogger31@cpc136894-bsfd10-2-0-cust504.5-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:17 -!- slogger3141 [~slogger31@cpc136894-bsfd10-2-0-cust504.5-3.cable.virginm.net] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 08:36 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kvtdyvgicwkvobcs] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:43 -!- fluke` [~user@193.165.236.141] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:35 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:37 < kanzure> where did fltrz go 09:37 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:41 -!- Adifex is now known as night 09:53 < nmz787_> hmm, I was just wondering about birdsong yesterday while hiking and hearing at least one owl, and possibly a second different species of own (or some other bird)... I had a feeling the two birds may have been warning each other to stay out of each other's territory 09:53 < nmz787_> also in this particular forest, just this past weekend we saw a sign warning about tawny owl's... and how they may swoop at you, and what to do if they do (run and protect your eyes and neck) 09:54 < kanzure> i volunteered you to write the gp-write roadmap on dna synthesis hope you're okay with this 09:54 < kanzure> they wanted someone in addition to myself 09:54 < kanzure> i told them you wrote the one for SRC 09:54 < nmz787_> ok 09:54 < kanzure> they want only two pages 09:55 < nmz787_> I read your notes from this morning 09:57 < nmz787_> kanzure: due date? 10:02 < kanzure> two weeks 10:04 -!- jtimon [~quassel@142.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:14 < kanzure> https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/8622ax/you_are_a_given_a_chance_to_redesign_humans_what/ 10:38 -!- rancyd_ [stryfe@gateway/shell/firrre/x-eifiyktcyjpseihd] has quit [Excess Flood] 10:42 < maaku> > Just going to point out that most answers here could be solved by having humans be gelatinous blobs. 10:43 < maaku> Soyuz launch in 1min https://www.nasa.gov/nasalive 10:53 < maaku> success 11:07 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-005-162-043.178.005.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:58 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:00 -!- aeiousom1thing [~aeiousome@124.123.14.99] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:02 -!- aeiousomething [aeiousomet@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:03 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:05 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-96-241-130-178.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:05 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-96-241-130-178.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:06 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-96-241-130-178.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:06 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-96-241-130-178.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:06 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-96-241-130-178.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:58 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:00 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:04 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:49 -!- p3t3r [~unknown@185.191.204.148] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:06 < kanzure> p3t3r: be greeted 14:11 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.211] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:16 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.198] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:17 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.198] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:17 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@128.250.0.198] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:22 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kvtdyvgicwkvobcs] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 14:24 < kanzure> .wik quark bomb 14:24 < yoleaux> kanzure: Sorry, that command (.wik) crashed. 14:24 < kanzure> hmm. 14:24 < fenn> They don't want you to know 14:25 < kanzure> .wik meson bomb 14:25 < yoleaux> "The meson bomb was a proposed nuclear weapon that would derive its destructive force from meson interactions with fissionable material like uranium." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meson_bomb 14:25 < kanzure> "The idea behind the bomb was rejected by most scientists, but during the Cold War, American intelligence managed to trick the Soviet Union into conducting research on this topic, which resulted in several years of wasted labor by one of the Soviet nuclear weapon research bureaus.[citation needed]" 14:25 < fenn> .wik meson 14:25 < yoleaux> "In particle physics, mesons (/ˈmiːzɒnz/ or /ˈmɛzɒnz/) are hadronic subatomic particles composed of one quark and one antiquark, bound together by the strong interaction." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meson 14:25 < kanzure> bureau of fake subatomic particles 14:26 < kanzure> .wik red mercury 14:26 < yoleaux> "Red mercury is a hypothetic substance of uncertain composition purportedly used in the creation of nuclear bombs, as well as a variety of unrelated weapons systems. Its existence is not documented." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_mercury 14:27 < fenn> sounds like a code name 14:27 < kanzure> like web cash (which was some guy's name) 14:27 < nmz787_> freddie mercury's smarter/nerdier brother 14:27 < kanzure> from http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/space/Self-deployed%20extremely%20large%20low%20mass%20space%20structures%20-%202007.pdf 14:27 < fenn> like "tube alloys" 14:27 < kanzure> btw that's the bubble paper 14:27 < kanzure> (W. Cash is a guy's name) 14:27 < fenn> back when code names were cool 14:28 < nmz787_> Johnny Cash's cousin 14:28 < fenn> now we have crap like "INCIPIENT RABBIT" which makes no sense at all and is clearly a code name 14:28 < nmz787_> can you name someone a trademark? 14:28 < fenn> yes, and unless you're making trademarked humans it wouldn't be a problem 14:28 < kanzure> "However, samples of "red mercury" obtained from arrested would-be terrorists invariably consisted of nothing more than various red dyes or powders of little value, which may have been sold as part of a campaign intended to flush out potential nuclear smugglers." 14:30 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-005-162-043.178.005.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:31 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:36 < kanzure> ".. and denied the existence of red mercury in sewing machines.[24]" 14:36 < kanzure> ok 14:49 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:50 -!- Adifex is now known as night 14:53 < CaptHindsight> I found Mesons to be more humorous 14:53 < CaptHindsight> more selfish subset of the Masons 15:02 < nmz787_> I like the Amos n Andy referencing them as 'morons' and 'fig neutrons' 15:05 -!- DataPacRat [~dan@dhcp-108-170-158-198.cable.user.start.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:10 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:14 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:40 -!- DataPacRat [~dan@dhcp-108-170-158-198.cable.user.start.ca] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:40 -!- DataPacRat [~dan@dhcp-108-170-158-198.cable.user.start.ca] has quit [Client Quit] 15:58 -!- aeiousom1thing [~aeiousome@124.123.14.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:32 -!- srk [sorki@fedora/sorki] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 17:39 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@bai9536df7d.bai.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:49 -!- srk [sorki@fedora/sorki] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:07 -!- mrdata- [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:28 -!- red-001 [red@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cyqoqliqctqpdpzu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:43 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@128.250.0.198] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:44 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.198] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:45 -!- red-001 [red@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-cwfidhufqtnyxazr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:48 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.198] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:11 -!- augur [~augur@192.195.83.130] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:15 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-005-162-043.178.005.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:16 -!- augur [~augur@192.195.83.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:19 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:25 -!- winsoff_ [42cdc1f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.205.193.241] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:32 * nmz787_ sizzle 19:35 < kanzure> hm. 19:36 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:43 -!- mrdata- [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:43 < winsoff_> kanzure: what about poor people 19:44 < winsoff_> justanotheruser: same question 19:44 < kanzure> hm? 19:45 < winsoff_> poor people don't get any of the benefits of biohacking/transhumanist efforts, it seems. 19:45 < winsoff_> or do you consider scale while you're theorizing? 19:45 < nmz787_> that's bs 19:46 < nmz787_> once you have a germline, if you don't have licensing fees or some crap, any descendants get those mods for free 19:49 < justanotheruser> winsoff_: what effect has the discovery of penicillin had on the poor? 19:49 < winsoff_> justanotheruser: most poor people still don't go to the doctor, lol 19:50 < winsoff_> additionally, the effect has been that everyone's now fucked by resistant strains and all of the working antibiotics have become more expensive 19:51 < justanotheruser> even if you don't go to the doctor, you'll probably have a surgery at some point in your life, and theres a reasonable chance penicillin will be used depending on the surgery 19:53 < nmz787_> http://pdf.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheet/hamamatsu/A1976-04.pdf 19:53 < nmz787_> Universal Streak Camera C5680 Series -- Measurements Ranging From X-Ray to Near Infrared With a Temporal Resolution of 2 ps 19:58 < winsoff_> justanotheruser: i don't see any data saying a majority of individuals have surgery 19:59 < kanzure> yawn... i hate people like winsoff ("poor people should never get benefits! it's impossible!") 19:59 < winsoff_> http://www.mcacs.org/abstracts/2008/P15.cgi sourced it for you 19:59 < winsoff_> kanzure: not the point of my question 19:59 < winsoff_> if you wanna stretch nuts at me, we can typerace 19:59 < kanzure> you're intentionally trying to find ways to prevent wide-spread dessimination of technology 20:00 < winsoff_> not whatsoever 20:00 < winsoff_> i'm asking if you, a disseminator, keeps this in mind 20:00 < kanzure> it's on http://play.typeracer.com/?rt=2ldqkgb3ar 20:00 < winsoff_> primarily as a rhetorical measure to get you to do exactly that. 20:00 < winsoff_> here we go lol 20:00 < winsoff_> lol it's so long 20:02 < winsoff_> Damn. 20:02 < winsoff_> which keyboard are you on, kanzure 20:02 < kanzure> qwerty 20:02 < winsoff_> i'm blaming the laptop 20:02 < kanzure> i am using a laptop 20:02 < kanzure> you were wrong to fight me http://www.seanwrona.com/typeracer/profile.php?username=kanzure 20:02 < winsoff_> i know, lol 20:02 < winsoff_> you're like 12th rated or something? 20:03 < winsoff_> really though, i'm just poor and want to be uploaded. 20:03 < kanzure> uploading will be cheap 20:04 < kanzure> running emulations will be expensive because CPU time is valuable 20:05 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@bai9536df7d.bai.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: wrldpc1] 20:05 < winsoff_> lol 20:05 < justanotheruser> Wouldn't R&D for creating a brain uploader be cheaper than R&D for sufficiently cheap CPU time? 20:05 < justanotheruser> be more expensive* 20:07 < winsoff_> kanzure: if everyone made the same modifications to their genes, would we be more susceptible to certain diseases in the future? how can we synthesize sexual and artificial reproduction? 20:07 < kanzure> future cpu might be less expensive but i think it will have a price floor related to the ai labor value per hour 20:07 < kanzure> winsoff_: one of the proposals floating around is virus resistance by removing all the codons that viruses use for self-replication from the human genome 20:07 < kanzure> so we would be less susceptible to those viral diseases 20:07 < winsoff_> makes sense 20:08 < kanzure> who is racing me 20:08 < winsoff_> i left after the massive loss--it is a mystery 20:11 < justanotheruser> me 20:12 < kanzure> okay let's do it 20:13 < justanotheruser> sad 20:13 < kanzure> those are rookie numbers 20:13 < justanotheruser> yeah, I have a really bad error rate 20:18 -!- darsie [~username@84-114-73-160.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:19 < winsoff_> lolol 20:19 < winsoff_> that is what fucked me in th elong stretch 20:19 < winsoff_> qed 20:19 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.198] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:31 -!- jtimon [~quassel@142.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:35 -!- winsoff_ [42cdc1f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.205.193.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:46 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:c308:f700:8df8:530e:b846:8e54] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:00 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.198] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:16 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:30 -!- fluke`` [~user@193.165.97.42] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:33 -!- fluke` [~user@193.165.236.141] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:34 -!- fluke``` [~user@193.165.236.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:34 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.198] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:35 -!- drewbot [~cinch@54.80.7.233] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:37 -!- fluke`` [~user@193.165.97.42] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:51 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:59 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:c308:f700:8df8:530e:b846:8e54] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:02 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@124.123.14.99] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:12 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@124.123.14.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:30 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:31 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:39 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@124.123.14.99] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:44 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@124.123.14.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:44 -!- aeiousom1thing [aeiousomet@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:02 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.198] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:22 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.198] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:47 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log closed Thu Mar 22 00:00:25 2018