--- Log opened Mon May 14 00:00:16 2018 00:14 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmzazmabiygyenai] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:28 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.209] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:43 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.209] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:42 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@66-90-137-217.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:58 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@66-90-137-217.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:01 -!- liead [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:03 -!- adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:47 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tzulaxrzplsraonl] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 03:03 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xmzazmabiygyenai] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 03:18 -!- jtimon [~quassel@52.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:08 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-173-66-205-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:09 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@66-90-137-217.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:09 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-102-074-205.188.102.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Disconnected by services] 05:10 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-102-074-205.188.102.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:49 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@2600:1700:290:3e10:42a3:ccff:fe65:94dd] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:04 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:06 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@47.185.249.138] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:12 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:14 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:24 < kanzure> https://bitcoinacks.com/ 06:24 < kanzure> https://github.com/jonasschnelli/bitcoincore-indexd 06:49 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@128.250.0.209] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:51 -!- ebowden__ [~ebowden@128.250.0.209] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:51 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:51 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@128.250.0.209] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:42 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@2600:1700:290:3e10:42a3:ccff:fe65:94dd] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:43 < ebowden__> fenn, isn't solder rather electrically conductive? 07:44 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@2600:1700:290:3e10:42a3:ccff:fe65:94dd] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:19 < mrdata> rather 08:20 < mrdata> all metals are rather conductive 08:21 < mrdata> copper is an excellent conductor; solder, not too bad i suppose 08:53 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:c308:f700:f949:9e16:9376:f025] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:14 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@2600:1700:290:3e10:42a3:ccff:fe65:94dd] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:17 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@2600:1700:290:3e10:42a3:ccff:fe65:94dd] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:49 < kanzure> .wik turbofect 09:49 < yoleaux> "Lipofectamine or Lipofectamine 2000 is a common transfection reagent, produced and sold by Invitrogen, used in molecular and cellular biology. It is used to increase the transfection efficiency of RNA (including mRNA and siRNA) or plasmid DNA into in vitro cell cultures by lipofection." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipofectamine 09:52 -!- DataPacRat [~dan@ip-173-247-141-132.user.start.ca] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:10 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:16 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-102-074-205.188.102.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:30 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@2600:1700:290:3e10:42a3:ccff:fe65:94dd] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:35 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.209] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:35 -!- ebowden__ [~ebowden@128.250.0.209] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:40 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@2600:1700:290:3e10:42a3:ccff:fe65:94dd] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:41 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-173-66-205-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:45 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:47 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:01 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:03 < kanzure> .title https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/14/science/biohackers-gene-editing-virus.html 11:03 < yoleaux> As D.I.Y. Gene Editing Gains Popularity, ‘Someone Is Going to Get Hurt’ - The New York Times 11:06 < kanzure> "Aggregation of gamma-signatures and applications to bitcoin" https://eprint.iacr.org/2018/414 11:44 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@2600:1700:290:3e10:42a3:ccff:fe65:94dd] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:46 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@2600:1700:290:3e10:42a3:ccff:fe65:94dd] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:11 < kanzure> fenn: someone is asking for mechmate schematics do you know where to get those? 12:12 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-athcetcxizfkkxmd] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:33 -!- BobaMa [bobama@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:42 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:47 -!- BobaMa [bobama@kapsi.fi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:02 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:09 -!- DataPacRat [~dan@ip-173-247-141-132.user.start.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:13 -!- gabbar1947 [uid205515@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-czclvjkgxbmxppjq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 13:41 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:49 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:01 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@2600:1700:290:3e10:42a3:ccff:fe65:94dd] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:05 < kanzure> https://www.coindesk.com/zcash-privacy-weakened-by-certain-behaviors-researchers-say/ 14:07 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-102-074-205.188.102.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:10 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:23 -!- lewl__ [~l_wl_@96-88-198-77-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:30 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@66-90-137-217.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:31 -!- liead is now known as adlai 14:44 -!- lewl_ [~l_wl_@96-88-198-77-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:14 < fenn> i thought mechmate was open source 15:14 < fenn> did literally nobody mirror the plans? 15:14 < fenn> http://heybryan.org/books/Manufacturing/mechmate.zip 15:15 < fenn> you'd know what happened to that file better than i do 15:16 < kanzure> fffffff 15:17 < fenn> honestly it's not that hard to design a CNC router 15:17 < kanzure> can you give me something else to send to this person? random emailer asks for mechmate plans. 15:20 < fenn> the BOM is more important probably https://www.cnczone.com/forums/open-source-cnc-machine-designs/59304-cnc.html 15:21 < fenn> presumably this works if you're logged in https://www.cnczone.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=78600&d=1238281768&s=330555bc63b71a6a1da79228463fc3b1 15:23 < kanzure> maybe something like this instead http://www.maslowcnc.com/ 15:23 < fenn> totally different class of performance 15:24 < fenn> a gantry would be far more rigid and have higher accelerations and precision 15:24 < fenn> i'm sure maslow doesn't take into account all the weird little nonlinearities of the design 15:24 < kanzure> ok sent email (cc'd you) 15:28 < fenn> heh that wasn't the schematics, just the BOM 15:28 < kanzure> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 15:28 < fenn> sorry i was never really interested in mechmate 15:28 < kanzure> it's a big hunk of metal that's not really "you" 15:29 < fenn> it's a big assemblage of tubing and double sided tape 15:30 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@66-90-137-217.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:32 < fenn> ugh 90% of these maslow demo projects are signs 15:32 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@66-90-137-217.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:34 < kanzure> we can make anything as long as it's a sign 15:36 < kanzure> /query CaptHindsight what would it take to get a real quote/estimate on a billion drops per second machine (rotating or otherwise), each spot addressable 1 time/sec by a single ink system? 15:57 -!- error404 [~error404@pool-72-83-64-110.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:34 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@66-90-137-217.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:40 -!- mrdata- [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:42 -!- Gurkenglas_ is now known as Gurkenglas 17:05 < nmz787> ebowden: me personally, no... but Sam Zeloof seems like he'd be the first candidate I'd look to 17:07 < nmz787> JayDugger: ah good point, I didn't notice the tower and mineral clause when I last posted this, but do believe I've seen it before... that's a good question, wouldn't want to have a nice homesite be destroyed by some pit mine 17:13 < nmz787> http://second-tech.com/wordpress/index.php/2018/05/14/introduction-to-tbtk-a-software-development-kit-for-quantum-mechanical-calculations/ 17:13 < nmz787> .title 17:13 < yoleaux> Introduction to TBTK – A software development kit for quantum mechanical calculations. – Second Tech 17:14 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:15 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:18 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:33 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@66-90-137-217.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:37 -!- jtimon [~quassel@52.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:55 -!- winsoff [~bar@unaffiliated/winsoff] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:59 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-102-074-205.188.102.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:27 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:29 -!- mrdata- [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:35 -!- error404 [~error404@pool-72-83-64-110.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:39 -!- DataPacRat [~dan@ip-173-247-141-132.user.start.ca] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:49 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:52 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@66-90-137-217.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:02 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@66-90-137-217.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:12 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@66-90-137-217.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:20 -!- pompolic [~A@unaffiliated/pompolic] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:29 < kanzure> https://www.statnews.com/2018/05/14/memory-transfer-between-snails-challenges-standard-theory/ 19:29 < kanzure> "RNA from Trained Aplysia Can Induce an Epigenetic Engram for Long-Term Sensitization in Untrained Aplysia" http://www.eneuro.org/content/early/2018/05/14/ENEURO.0038-18.2018 19:30 < kanzure> "The precise nature of the engram, the physical substrate of memory, remains uncertain. Here, it is reported that RNA extracted from the central nervous system of Aplysia given long-term sensitization training induced sensitization when injected into untrained animals; furthermore, the RNA-induced sensitization, like training-induced sensitization, required DNA methylation. In cellular ... 19:30 < kanzure> ...experiments, treatment with RNA extracted from trained animals was found to increase excitability in sensory neurons, but not in motor neurons, dissociated from naïve animals. Thus, the behavioral, and a subset of the cellular, modifications characteristic of a form of nonassociative long-term memory in Aplysia can be transferred by RNA. These results indicate that RNA is sufficient to ... 19:30 < kanzure> ...generate an engram for long-term sensitization in Aplysia and are consistent with the hypothesis that RNA-induced epigenetic changes underlie memory storage in Aplysia." 19:40 < kanzure> "Engram cells retain memory under retrograde amnesia" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5583719/ 19:43 < kanzure> hmm "Although previous studies proposed that Komodo dragon saliva contains a variety of highly septic bacteria that would help to bring down prey, research in 2013 suggested that the bacteria in the mouths of Komodo dragons are ordinary and similar to those found in other carnivores." 20:10 -!- madacol [~madacol@181.56.216.44] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:12 < JayDugger> Really? Bring me smart people. I'll risk CJD. 20:12 < JayDugger> Oh, let me get some waivers ready first. 20:19 < JayDugger> nmz787, you'd also need to check whether OR state law means by "water rights." Might or might not also mean forestry, hunting, or water. 20:20 < JayDugger> If you spend so much as that, a little money for research might pay off. 20:20 -!- archels [charl@toad.stack.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:20 -!- archels [charl@toad.stack.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:20 < JayDugger> I'd guess though, that those rights got retained by a long previous owner. 20:20 < JayDugger> Also access and right-of-way might be worth checking out. 20:22 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@66-90-137-217.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:23 < fenn> why is it "rights" usually means denying others access 20:26 -!- madacol [~madacol@181.56.216.44] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:26 < kanzure> fenn: owner-focused 20:27 -!- madacol [~madacol@181.56.216.44] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:31 < kanzure> madacol: be greeted 20:33 -!- madacol [~madacol@181.56.216.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:33 -!- madacol [~madacol@181.56.216.44] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:33 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@66-90-137-217.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:39 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@66-90-137-217.dyn.grandenetworks.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:41 -!- madacol [~madacol@181.56.216.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:43 -!- madacol [~madacol@181.56.216.44] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:03 -!- drewbot [~cinch@54.82.30.22] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:23 -!- madacol [~madacol@181.56.216.44] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:37 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:c308:f700:f949:9e16:9376:f025] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:38 -!- redlegion [~x@gateway/tor-sasl/redlegion] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:39 -!- lewl [~lewl@96-88-198-77-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:40 -!- redlegion [~x@gateway/tor-sasl/redlegion] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:52 -!- cpc26 [~cpc26@fsf/member/cpc26] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 21:53 -!- cpc26 [~cpc26@fsf/member/cpc26] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:32 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:33 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:38 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:39 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:48 -!- ExeciN [~nicexe@bnc.stormbit.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:02 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-athcetcxizfkkxmd] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 23:28 -!- pompolic [~A@unaffiliated/pompolic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:40 -!- jtimon [~quassel@52.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:45 -!- lewl [~lewl@96-88-198-77-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [] 23:53 -!- lewl [~lewl@96-88-198-77-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Tue May 15 00:00:17 2018