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09:00 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/GHWetware/status/996091432590028801
09:00 < yoleaux> Hey @EmilyJBaum - why did you say "Dr." for @gregkoblentz, @geochurch, @T_Inglesby, & others, but refer to @4LOVofScience as "Mr. Zayner? All have a PhD. The assumption would be editorializing, but maybe you had a reason? Would love to know! @nytimes https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/05/14/science/biohackers-gene-editing-virus.html (@GHWetware)
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10:03 < archels> re that "memory transfer by RNA" thing... does that strike anyone else as particularly non-revolutionary and completely in line with present theories?
10:03 < kanzure> ya... upregulation causes upregulation. hmmmm.
10:04 < archels> plasticity mechanisms are going to cause intracellular cascades, many of which involve RNA molecules
10:05 < kanzure> i guess the opposite would be more surprising: no RNA molecules specifically sensitize a neuron.
10:05 < archels> copy-paste the RNA "fingerprint", and/or some key RNA molecules that are expressed as a consequence of ongoing plasticity processes, and obviously you copy some of the effects
10:05 < archels> yes
10:07 < kanzure> should it be considered interesting that there are mRNAs that cause sensitization in one neuron type but not another?
10:08 < archels> well, it'll help in mapping out the whole shebang
10:10 < archels> the most exciting daydream would probably be: injectable memories
10:10 < kanzure> nah, radiotransmission memories
10:10 < archels> given the right cocktail and targeting, could you have a syringe for learning Chinese?
10:10 < archels> heh, RF is so oldschool conspiracy theory
10:11 < kanzure> i think you could increase susceptibility to learning chinese with some form of viral gene therapy-- you could probably reprogram a bunch of neurons and neuronal stem cells to be more adolescent-like
10:12 < archels> .title https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(14)00286-4
10:12 < yoleaux> archels: Sorry, that doesn't appear to be an HTML page.
10:12 < kanzure> only way i could see injectable memory working is if you were to inject organoid brain tissue and somehow have that tissue get wired up and also provide memory, which i think is really unlikely to work
10:12 < kanzure> (brain xenografting)
10:13 < archels> probably. memory is too much a dynamic process, not such a statically (injectable) pattern
10:13 < archels> so there'd be some entrainment of networks involved
10:13 < archels> (plugging into some machine that benignly fries your cortex suddenly seems a lot more likely)
10:13 < kanzure> ya, like those functional hippocampus implants
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10:14 < archels> *nod*
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10:56 < kanzure> .wik x-gal
10:56 < yoleaux> "X-gal (also abbreviated BCIG for 5-bromo-4-chloro-3-indolyl-β-D-galactopyranoside) is an organic compound consisting of galactose linked to a substituted indole. The compound was synthesized by Jerome Horwitz and collaborators in Detroit, MI, in 1964." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-gal
10:56 < kanzure> oh of course.
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13:33 < nmz787> fenn: 13:32 < juri_> cute, but the offgassing of the solder would have to be known.
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14:51 < nmz787> hrmm, why aren't there any eulerian video magnification apps for android :/
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16:13 < kanzure> apparently this is a george quote? wtf? "Anyone who does synthetic biology should be under surveillance, and anyone who does it without a license should be suspect"
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16:13 < yashgaroth> fucked up if true
16:14 < kanzure> welp time to add someone to ye olde timey murder list
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16:31 < nmz787> just ordered a white panda from comma.ai.... hopefully in a week or so I'll have tried it on my truck to get some CAN/GMLAN bus data
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19:48 < kanzure> > I was disappointed in Alcor?s official statement about ASC on page 8 of
19:48 < kanzure> > the current issue of Cryonics, although it started well
19:49 < kanzure> http://www.humanconnectomeproject.org/gallery/
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