--- Log opened Mon May 21 00:00:23 2018 00:09 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:16 -!- DataPacRat [~dan@ip-173-247-141-182.user.start.ca] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:43 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:43 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.209] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:43 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.209] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:41 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:54 < fenn> good figure 02:54 < fenn> spelling error: dependant and independant 02:55 < fenn> the label "telomerase extends leading strand repeats" should go underneath the enzyme like the other labels 02:55 < fenn> the T/A G/C key is not really necessary, and neither is "enzymes not to scale" 02:56 < fenn> minor inaccuracy in that the polymerase that fills in the gaps needs a primer to start from, probably 02:56 < fenn> but that would clutter the diagram 03:01 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@142-254-106-160.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:17 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:18 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:18 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@70.ip-145-239-90.eu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:18 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@70.ip-145-239-90.eu] has quit [Client Quit] 04:34 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-102-074-205.188.102.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:39 -!- DataPacRat [~dan@ip-173-247-141-182.user.start.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:40 -!- DataPacRat [~dan@104.254.90.170] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:54 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@70.ip-145-239-90.eu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:03 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has quit [Quit: ...and all my responses they stay the same.] 05:04 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:06 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:15 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nfdsstudpjcmwigf] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:50 < kanzure> someone has asked me for $9k and in exchange they will give me scihub data 05:50 < kanzure> i told him no-- not unless i travel to meet him 06:16 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@142-254-106-160.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:21 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@142-254-106-160.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:47 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@142-254-106-160.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:59 < kanzure> stepcode domain has expired 07:24 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:25 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nfdsstudpjcmwigf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 08:09 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:16 -!- Gurkenglas_ is now known as Gurkenglas 08:19 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:12 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:c308:f700:d52b:962d:fb39:fd16] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:52 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJZnkm0jW5E 09:52 < yoleaux> Chris Belcher: JoinMarket - YouTube 09:58 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@142-254-106-160.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:16 < kanzure> "Who is paying for this? You? I didn't dig into your background just clicked on your HN profile to see that you weren't a troll, and I saw you had some crypto currency stuff. You haven't mentioned anything else about your client (if it's not you) at all. unless it's a philanthrope thing scientific publications don't have much of a price on the darknet as far as I know. I'd have to do it ... 10:16 < kanzure> ...as a covert spy mission where I ingratiate myself to her and do it "for the greater good"." 10:16 < kanzure> "Look please note that if this is in ANY way related to any ACTUAL government (i.e. spy agencies) then I am NOT interested." 10:16 < kanzure> "but in that case I don't see the funding. you're being very opaque about the source of it, I don't see the monetary stream here. you need to tell some kind of story to me about this, I am not really buying this whole thing." 10:17 < kanzure> who talks like this 10:21 < JayDugger> Someone skeptical about the ability to pay. Move on. 10:34 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@173.195.78.226] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:40 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@173.195.78.226] has quit [Quit: jqtrde] 10:40 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@173.195.78.226] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:54 < kanzure> "One thing that's never been clear to me: what benefit do you get from reviewing articles for paid journals? Phrased another way, what stands in the way of a movement where reviewers "go on strike" against anything that isn't open access?" 10:55 < kanzure> "The Library at Alexandria was in charge of collecting all the world's knowledge, and most of the staff was occupied with the task of translating works onto papyrus paper. It did so through an aggressive and well-funded royal mandate involving trips to the book fairs of Rhodes and Athens. According to Galen, any books found on ships that came into port were taken to the library, and were ... 10:56 < kanzure> ...listed as "books of the ships".[19] Official scribes then copied these writings; the originals were kept in the library, and the copies delivered to the owners." 11:24 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 12:14 < kanzure> "One possible cure I heard from a librarian sobbing over the bill was that if there were companies that could hold copyright and companies that could distribute, but no one company could do both there might be some market tension" 12:21 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@173.195.78.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:23 -!- DataPacRat [~dan@104.254.90.170] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 12:26 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@173.195.78.226] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:38 < TMA> that's somewhat easy to circumvent. just form three companies - two for the business, the third as a holding company 12:38 < TMA> no company is doing both in this scheme 13:00 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:842d:4000::3] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:13 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:12 -!- Cosmofile [~cosmophil@cpe-71-70-215-113.nc.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:15 < kanzure> Cosmofile: be greeted 14:19 < mrdata> hi 14:21 < Cosmofile> I am greeted with vigor, thus. 14:21 < Cosmofile> In response I greet warmly. 14:26 < kanzure> hmm 14:26 < kanzure> Cosmofile: what brings you here 14:27 < Cosmofile> Exploring concepts related to overcoming human mental and physical limitations through tech and science 14:42 < mrdata> \o/ 15:18 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:31 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@173.195.78.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:32 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:37 < kanzure> .title https://dheera.net/projects/blur 15:37 < yoleaux> Why blurring sensitive information is a bad idea | dheera.net | Dheera Venkatraman's web site 15:38 < kanzure> .title https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11390-018-1838-z 15:38 < yoleaux> Practical Constant-Size Ring Signature | SpringerLink 15:49 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@173.195.78.226] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:52 -!- srk [sorki@fedora/sorki] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:56 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:57 -!- srk [sorki@fedora/sorki] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:03 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has quit [Quit: ...and all my responses they stay the same.] 16:04 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:06 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has quit [Client Quit] 16:07 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:07 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by 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nmz787> that would be a winner 17:45 < nmz787> LOL 18:18 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@70.ip-145-239-90.eu] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:26 -!- DataPacRat [~dan@ip-173-247-141-182.user.start.ca] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:32 < JayDugger> engineering upgrades to second-time parents should be easy for second-time parents 18:32 < JayDugger> I hear vasectomies are popular. 18:33 < JayDugger> Only anecdotal evidence for it though. 18:42 < nmz787> well my thinking is that first-time parents might not be pulled into a reason for a non-natural baby, but second-time parents would already have realized that months/years beforehand... so would be more easily sold into a sense of betterment for their baby and/or peace of mind/lifestyle 19:10 < JayDugger> Parents do seem to relax with experience, yes. 19:40 < nmz787> well that's not really what I mean 19:40 < kanzure> nmz787: find me some that want the work done 19:40 * kanzure sleeps 20:31 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Quit: 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