--- Log opened Tue Jun 12 00:00:44 2018 00:01 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:12 -!- l_wl_ [~l_wl@pool-173-66-205-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: gone for now but not for good] 01:13 -!- TMA [tma@twin.jikos.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:52 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:09 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:25 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:26 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:39 -!- ShaKata [~ShaKata@77.139.218.69] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:40 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:40 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:45 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:50 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:56 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:57 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:21 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.0.198] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:32 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:40 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:00 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:04 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:19 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:23 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:35 -!- ShaKata_ [~ShaKata@77.139.218.69] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:37 -!- ShaKata [~ShaKata@77.139.218.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:43 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:50 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:30 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:38 < kanzure> hmph 06:11 < kanzure> "CRISPR–Cas9 genome editing induces a p53-mediated DNA damage response" https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-018-0049-z 06:11 < kanzure> "Precise, automated control of conditions for high-throughput growth of yeast and bacteria with eVOLVER" https://www.nature.com/articles/nbt.4151 06:13 -!- berndj [~berndj@197.242.93.82] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 06:14 -!- berndj [~berndj@197.242.93.82] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:16 < kanzure> "Dissolving the Fermi paradox" https://arxiv.org/abs/1806.02404 06:16 < kanzure> "The Fermi paradox is the conflict between an expectation of a high {\em ex ante} probability of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe and the apparently lifeless universe we in fact observe. The expectation that the universe should be teeming with intelligent life is linked to models like the Drake equation, which suggest that even if the probability of intelligent life developing at a ... 06:16 < kanzure> ...given site is small, the sheer multitude of possible sites should nonetheless yield a large number of potentially observable civilizations. We show that this conflict arises from the use of Drake-like equations, which implicitly assume certainty regarding highly uncertain parameters. We examine these parameters, incorporating models of chemical and genetic transitions on paths to the origin ... 06:16 < kanzure> ...of life, and show that extant scientific knowledge corresponds to uncertainties that span multiple orders of magnitude. This makes a stark difference. When the model is recast to represent realistic distributions of uncertainty, we find a substantial {\em ex ante} probability of there being no other intelligent life in our observable universe, and thus that there should be little surprise ... 06:16 < kanzure> ...when we fail to detect any signs of it. This result dissolves the Fermi paradox, and in doing so removes any need to invoke speculative mechanisms by which civilizations would inevitably fail to have observable effects upon the universe." 06:18 < kanzure> https://synbiobeta.com/why-the-future-will-be-written-in-dna/ 06:28 < fenn> so many awesome lego designs https://moc.bricklink.com/pages/moc/index.page 06:45 < fenn> someone needs to make a neural network trained on images for reverse engineering photos to lego cad files 06:48 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:57 -!- drewbot [~cinch@54.197.118.7] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:01 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:03 < fenn> i don't understand why so few of them have instructions, especially when they are clearly just cad files 07:23 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:36 < fenn> said neural network would also be extremely useful for inventory assimilation and querying 07:36 < fenn> put your brick on the 3d scanner, robot puts it away 07:40 < fenn> well i'm definitely not the first person to think of that for sorting lego 07:58 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@142-254-106-160.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:03 < fenn> neural network lego sorting machine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klLscxJbayI https://jacquesmattheij.com/sorting-two-metric-tons-of-lego https://jacquesmattheij.com/sorting-lego-the-software-side 08:05 < kanzure> seems like this might cause structural unemployment for young children playtime 08:06 < kanzure> 08:06 < fenn> it might cause more efficient used brick acquisition in marketplaces 08:07 < kanzure> none of those bricklink designs look like the kind of haphazard stuff that i was expecting 08:07 < fenn> yeah i am blown away by the average quality 08:08 < fenn> most of the people only have 1 or 2 designs up 08:08 < kanzure> looks like purpose-specific parts (lego cancer) 08:09 < fenn> fortunately not any bionicle stuff, most mechas and tanks and stuff are plain technic parts 08:10 < fenn> there were some weird parts i haven't seen before but for the most part people seem to use common bricks 08:11 < kanzure> lego cancer https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-29992974 08:12 < fenn> "Nobel Prize-winning chemist Sir Harry Kroto" apparently doesn't know about technic 08:12 < kanzure> maybe you should send him some technic 08:13 < fenn> ... my precious ... 08:14 < fenn> most (all?) lego sets come with instructions for multiple models that can be made with the pieces in the set 08:15 -!- ShaKata_ [~ShaKata@77.139.218.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:15 < fenn> what the fuck is this http://lego.wikia.com/wiki/8310_Nick 08:17 < kanzure> "sponsored by IEEE 802.15.1" 08:17 < kanzure> has lego gone too far enough? 08:18 < kanzure> http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/xboxtravis/GalidorReview/img_3506_re.jpg 08:18 < fenn> that would definitely get sorted into the "not lego" bin 08:19 < fenn> "Lego Fusion, launched earlier this year, allows users to photograph their own productions via an app and upload them to a virtual space, where they remain once the toy itself is broken up." 08:21 < fenn> it's 2D only, looks like some sort of MMO 08:43 < fenn> eurobricks has a 200 page forum thread with 6000 official sets hand-modeled in lego digital designer 08:52 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@173.195.78.226] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:55 < fenn> unbelievably, there doesn't seem to be a torrent or aggregation of ldd files 08:55 < fenn> who hand-curates 6000 sets and doesn't make a torrent?! 09:08 -!- MarkOtaris [mark-otari@wikimedia/Mark-Otaris] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:08 -!- kershaw[m] [kershawmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-wvyafgwdiniglaao] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:08 -!- entity8421[m] [entity8421@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-fxnasrpszocdkivj] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:08 -!- Kacia [~kacia@95.87.234.241] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:08 -!- formsdothis[m] [formsdothi@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-woboabrvxtvuvvxe] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:12 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:c308:f700:21e3:a9cc:ff19:85a1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:16 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:17 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:21 -!- l_wl [~l_wl@pool-173-66-205-23.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:34 -!- formsdothis[m] [formsdothi@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-vszcgfomdqmsafjg] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:34 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:41 < nmz787> I definitely had a bunch of Erector set and a few Meccano (I always assumed they were a clone of Erector), but I think I had these starting around the same age as Lego 09:41 < nmz787> I had some waffle blocks when I was a bit younger 09:41 < nmz787> duplo too 09:41 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:49 -!- jtimon [~quassel@40.28.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:53 -!- MarkOtaris [mark-otari@wikimedia/Mark-Otaris] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:53 -!- entity8421[m] [entity8421@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-yqtgabfreoafiswz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:53 -!- kershaw[m] [kershawmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-khjviwrhxuidprjo] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:05 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@173.195.78.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:08 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:11 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:15 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:22 < sektor> fenn: Can you post a link to that thread, so I can scrape the files ^o^ 10:22 < sektor> nmz787: Check out Zometool 10:34 < nmz787> sektor: reminds me of my organic chemistry 'molecular visions' modelling kit 10:34 < fenn> sektor: https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/41226-key-topic-official-lego-sets-made-in-ldd/ https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/48285-key-topic-official-lego-sets-made-in-ldraw/ 10:35 < fenn> sektor: if you do scrape it, please send me a copy of the scrape products 10:35 < fenn> many of the posts link to external websites such as google drive, however the thread is 8 years old and the half life of a link on the internet is rapidly declining 10:36 < fenn> also of course you have to be registered to download attached files 10:39 < fenn> the actual cad files are quite small, about 200kB for a large set 10:53 < sektor> nmz787: Oh, yeah, I think that's how they came up with the idea 10:53 < sektor> fenn: I will give it a try in an hour and will report back ^.- 10:56 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@173.195.78.226] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:03 -!- Cory 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[~jqtrde@142-254-106-160.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:15 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@70.ip-145-239-90.eu] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:34 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@142-254-106-160.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:34 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:39 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:54 < kanzure> i don't have a nifty command line tool for arbitrary merkle tree construction and verification and inclusion proofs :-( 20:55 < kanzure> https://www.nextgov.com/emerging-tech/2018/06/intelligence-community-wants-use-dna-store-exabytes-data/148908/ 21:18 < maaku> kanzure: there's some RPCs for that written for my MAST stuff 21:18 < maaku> but kalle's btcdeb implementation is probably easier to use and more features 21:40 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has quit [Quit: ...and all my responses 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Nice. 22:11 -!- mrdata_ [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:12 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:12 -!- mrdata [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:46 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@142-254-106-160.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:55 -!- maaku [~maaku@173.234.25.100] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:58 -!- maaku [~maaku@173.234.25.100] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:09 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:19 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:19 -!- mrdata_ is now known as mrdata 23:47 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:55 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log closed Wed Jun 13 00:00:44 2018