--- Log opened Mon Jun 25 00:00:56 2018 00:06 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has quit [Quit: ...and all my responses they stay the same.] 00:35 < kanzure> seems to be mostly about software though 00:36 < nmz787> you are up late/early 00:39 < kanzure> travel 01:08 -!- traumschule [~traumschu@mehl.schokokeks.org] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 02:32 -!- traumschule [~traumschu@mehl.schokokeks.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:53 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:57 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:58 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-enoievzsymujnult] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 03:02 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:09 -!- jtimon [~quassel@40.28.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:23 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:32 < TMA> kanzure: please do not add height to humans; alternatively arrange rebuilding of essentially all infrastructure to accomodate increased height beforehand. the current world is painful enough for the above average high (hard to obtain clothes, insufficient room for legs in transportation devices, ceilings low enough to warrant extreme caution walking beneath, door frames necesitating bowing, ...) 03:35 < maaku> if anything, I'd prefer to shrink humans to <1ft 03:35 < maaku> lots of advantages to getting smaller 03:35 < maaku> (the minor disadvantage of cats becoming the dominant preditory species) 03:38 < maaku> If mites can have fully articulated microscopic bodies, surely there is room for shrinkage in humans 03:47 < bluebear_> maaku: not sure if you had not have to reorganize the brain; I think smurf size would be a good compromise 04:50 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:54 -!- Guest54770 [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:00 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:09 -!- drewbot [~cinch@50.17.95.30] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:42 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:47 < JayDugger> maaku, bluebear, if you haven't already read Hanson's 1994 "If Uploads Come First," then I recommend its section "Upload Consequences" which has a part relevant to your discussion starting with "Fast uploads who want physical bodies that can keep up with their faster brains might use proportionally smaller bodies." 05:47 < JayDugger> See http://mason.gmu.edu/~rhanson/uploads.html 05:48 < bluebear_> JayDugger: will read, thanks :-) 05:49 < JayDugger> You're welcome. Mostly SF lookups from me, but the occasional non-fiction one will appear from time to time. 07:16 -!- dequ [christy@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:16 -!- dequ [christy@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:20 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bmkprfpdwqexlngm] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:36 -!- markanini [uid58839@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rcdmsowvtuvbcjfk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:06 -!- hooloovo0 [Hooloovoo@2a01:4f8:120:4091::10] has quit [Quit: Temporarily refracted into a free-standing prism.] 08:36 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@124.183.192.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:44 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1014:2500:b06c:e0e0:887a:128c] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:56 -!- Hoolootwo [Hooloovoo@hooloovoo.blue] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:14 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:17 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:c308:f700:843d:e31a:5291:43b7] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:19 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:26 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:26 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:02 < kanzure> .title https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8391/ 10:02 < yoleaux> RFC 8391 - XMSS: eXtended Merkle Signature Scheme 10:16 < nmz787> www.hecbiosim.ac.uk/downloads 10:16 < nmz787> .title 10:16 < yoleaux> Downloads 10:18 < nmz787> TMA: good feedback 10:19 < nmz787> I also am unsure if being taller would be any better... basal metabolism will go up, and what's the return-on-investment... when is the extra height going to significantly make up for all that lost energy (i.e. increase fitness)? 10:23 < kanzure> you'll thank me when you're a billionaire giant 10:28 < nmz787> better to stock tall warehouse/store shelves 10:28 -!- lewl [~lewl@2606:6000:6087:f00:8d7c:2abc:9c21:3e0f] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:28 < nmz787> better basketball players? 10:29 < yashgaroth> there is the awkward span in between 2 meters tall and 'immediately signed to a basketball team' where I could see it being annoying 10:32 < yashgaroth> what was the statistic, like half of people in the US over 7 feet are in the NBA? 10:33 < kanzure> ah yes.. the grace of shaq and the cunningness of alberto einstein. 11:07 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:08 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@124.183.192.230] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:09 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1014:2500:b06c:e0e0:887a:128c] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:09 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@c-76-126-68-88.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:41 < nmz787> http://ambermd.org/tutorials/basic/tutorial0/index.htm 11:43 < kanzure> .title 11:43 < yoleaux> Tutorial B0 11:43 < kanzure> hmm 11:46 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:54 -!- lewl [~lewl@2606:6000:6087:f00:8d7c:2abc:9c21:3e0f] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:04 -!- pompolic [~A@unaffiliated/pompolic] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:10 -!- lewl [~lewl@cpe-104-172-229-250.socal.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:22 -!- lewl [~lewl@cpe-104-172-229-250.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:31 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@c-76-126-68-88.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:41 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@142-254-106-160.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:41 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:46 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:23 < TMA> kanzure: I am already above average (about 69/32 yd or 19/194 chains) high and I am facing the things I mentioned already; if you still insist, consider adding additional joints to the extremities 13:24 < kanzure> i don't care 13:24 < TMA> on the other hand, another pair of hands would be handy 13:25 < TMA> even more than additional height 13:26 < kanzure> no u 13:26 -!- pompolic [~A@unaffiliated/pompolic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:39 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:41 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:47 -!- vurtz [~vurtz@2a02:c7d:ba9:9b00:3d91:4b8f:f25:1c69] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:48 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:27 -!- redlegion [~x@gateway/tor-sasl/redlegion] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:27 -!- redlegion [~x@gateway/tor-sasl/redlegion] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:48 -!- lewl [~lewl@2606:6000:6087:f00:4186:c756:8b5b:ad61] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:54 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::2] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:14 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:18 < nmz787> yeah another set of hands would be good... I guess that would mean arms too... but a statically located hand might not be terrible... less to think about moving and keeping track of, but still would be able to have very good dexterity and act to hold things. I'm not sure where optimal placement would be though 16:18 < nmz787> maybe where most things have wings sprouting? 16:19 < nmz787> upper-back hands don't seem terrible... they could hold a camera, or scissors... or if you had two symetrically placed there (i.e. like wings) one could hold scissors, the other could hold the camera... and you could cut your own hair 16:19 < nmz787> or a mirror, whatevrs 16:37 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:39 < fenn> iliac crest 16:40 < fenn> of course once you start adding body parts anatomy names go out the window 16:42 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:14 < fenn> https://news.bitcoin.com/another-us-bitcoin-trader-faces-prison-for-illegal-money-transmission/ 17:16 -!- redlegion [~x@gateway/tor-sasl/redlegion] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:17 -!- redlegion [~x@gateway/tor-sasl/redlegion] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:20 -!- Burnin8 [~Burn@pool-108-56-210-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:22 < superkuh> Neither that nor the nbclosangeles article makes it clear exactly what she was charged with. 17:22 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-108-56-210-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:35 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:38 -!- mrdata- [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:38 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has quit [Client Quit] 17:40 < fenn> you have to be licensed with FTC to transmit money internationally 17:40 < fenn> something like that 17:42 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:42 < kanzure> why is this article notable 17:42 < fenn> i didn't know people were being arrested for buying/selling bitcoins 17:43 < kanzure> bitinstant was one of the earlier popularized incidents 17:43 < kanzure> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Shrem 17:44 < fenn> "unlicensed money-transmitting business related to the Silk Road marketplace" 17:44 < fenn> that's quite a bit different than just buying and selling bitcoins 17:47 < kanzure> "related" because users who bought and sold bitcoin were also users of ... eh nevermind. 17:52 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has quit [Quit: ...and all my responses they stay the same.] 17:55 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:02 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has quit [Quit: ...and all my responses they stay the same.] 18:04 -!- vurtz [~vurtz@2a02:c7d:ba9:9b00:3d91:4b8f:f25:1c69] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:05 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:19 < kanzure> .wik bone morphogenetic protein receptor type 1A 18:19 < yoleaux> kanzure: Sorry, that command (.wik) crashed. 18:21 < kanzure> .wik BMPR1A 18:21 < yoleaux> "The bone morphogenetic protein receptor, type IA also known as BMPR1A is a protein which in humans is encoded by the BMPR1A gene. BMPR1A has also been designated as CD292 (cluster of differentiation 292)." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMPR1A 18:27 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bmkprfpdwqexlngm] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:29 -!- BoxerJack [~BoxerJack@cpe-67-11-116-34.satx.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:31 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has quit [Quit: ...and all my responses they stay the same.] 18:33 -!- SpaceCadetAda [~SpaceCade@2a00:23c2:3e01:ea01:cca1:b0b2:7512:5b75] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:34 -!- SpaceCadetAda [~SpaceCade@2a00:23c2:3e01:ea01:cca1:b0b2:7512:5b75] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:38 -!- mrdata- [~mrdata@unaffiliated/mrdata] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:39 -!- BoxerJack [~BoxerJack@cpe-67-11-116-34.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:40 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:43 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has quit [Client Quit] 18:47 -!- CandleGlow [~CandleGlo@unaffiliated/candleglow] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:48 -!- BoxerJack [~BoxerJack@cpe-67-11-116-34.satx.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:49 -!- lewl [~lewl@2606:6000:6087:f00:4186:c756:8b5b:ad61] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:02 -!- BoxerJack [~BoxerJack@cpe-67-11-116-34.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:02 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0] 19:03 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:15 -!- preview [~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b00::2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:36 -!- aeiousomething [~aeiousome@unaffiliated/aeiousomething] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:40 < fenn> .title http://youtu.be/zrVDfX9XFpE?t=9m40s 20:40 < yoleaux> Nvidia - AI for Generating High-Resolution Images - Tero Karras - YouTube 20:49 < fenn> hmm.. i see david petraeus in one of the "output" images 20:50 < fenn> i guess there's not many military portraits in the training set 21:10 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:26 -!- lewl [~lewl@2606:6000:6087:f00:10ab:8380:c59:5f2e] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:34 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:36 -!- jtimon [~quassel@40.28.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:46 < fenn> here's the screensaver version 21:47 < fenn> .title http://youtu.be/36lE9tV9vm0 21:47 < yoleaux> One hour of imaginary celebrities - YouTube 22:02 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:c308:f700:843d:e31a:5291:43b7] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:23 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@142-254-106-160.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:41 -!- jqtrde [~jqtrde@142-254-106-160.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:59 -!- lewl [~lewl@2606:6000:6087:f00:10ab:8380:c59:5f2e] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log closed Tue Jun 26 00:00:57 2018